freakin DACUS!!!!!!

[legion598]

ive read every single guide and attempted the DACUS hundreds of times and have only done it once and i think it was because marios cape move cancled the dash attack for me. I need help on the timing and i have one question. Do u have to hit the c-stick down or can u use other directions on it

 

[ADHD]

Run, c-stick down, then somewhere around 1/4 of a second up Z.

c-stick set to smashes, Z set to attack.

Just play around with it.

 

[demodemo]

or you can lazy and set R to attack and press them in that order similar to the speed of a wavedash

 

[KRDsonic]

Or if you prefer standard controls you could just use C-Stick down and use Up A instead. Awkward to press, but it works.

 

[daddyshere12]

Or if you prefer standard controls you could just use C-Stick down and use Up A instead. Awkward to press, but it works.

yea but......I TOLD U C-down Up-Z WORKS

besides that, in the sheik reference thread, find something about dacus i forget what its called, on that thread go to the second page, and go down to fartknocker's post, very in depth, helped me

 

[KRDsonic]

yea but......I TOLD U C-down Up-Z WORKS

Nope, only if you set Z to attack instead of grab, with sheik it has to be the Attack button.

 

[daddyshere12]

Nope, only if you set Z to attack instead of grab, with sheik it has to be the Attack button.

oh..thats wut i meant...didn't make that clear did i xd.

i just prefer using z just because its easier and more comfortable to do imo

 

[ddonaldo]

c stick doesnt have to be down, it just cant be up. basically the whole point of using the c-stick is so that you can use your dash attack without using the A button, since you need the A button to cancel into up-smash.

Also look at what sheik is doing to see where you are going wrong. I found I wasn't pressing the control stick up enough in order for DACUS to activate, thus I always saw sheik just doing a dash attack

 

[KRDsonic]

oh..thats wut i meant...didn't make that clear did i xd.

i just prefer using z just because its easier and more comfortable to do imo

I never said you couldn't change Z to attack >.> however you just randomly commented on one of my videos saying "Hey I use C-Stick down Z Up" even though there were Many comments saying that you had to change your controls to that to do her DACUS and I said I didn't like too >.>

 

[legion598]

um if u dont have to hit c-stick down doesnt that mean u could just hit a to use the dash attack and then instantly hit c-stick up for the cancel

 

[Alopex]

Leave your Z as grab.
Make R an Attack button.
Use R instead of Z.

Dash, C-stick down or back, quickly roll the analog stick to the up position and press R at the same time.

Try it. This is the method I've used to teach many people and they've all picked it up no problem. Satisfaction guaranteed, dude, and you get to keep your Z for grabs.

 

[choknater]

with standard controls, i put my index finger on A

it's all muscle memory from there

 

[rathy Aro]

When I play snake I c-stick down and c-stick up. Will that not work with sheik?

 

[GodAtHand]

If your having a hard time make sure your tap jump is off so you start pressing up on the control stick before you actually press the second attack button.

Another thing that help me is releasing the c-stick back to neutral very quickly before pressing A or Z.

 

[KRDsonic]

When I play snake I c-stick down and c-stick up. Will that not work with sheik?

nope.

Spoiler

10CHAR

 

[colored blind]

The timing's a lot stricter and faster for Sheik than with Snake.

 

[SinkingHigher]

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=179565

Scroll down. All the information is there.

You begin the U-smash within half a second of the dash attack. You can use any buttons you want. As long as two are set to attack.

Basically, the dash attack and u-smash could almost be considered one input, they're that close to eachother.

 

[PK Webb]

Maybe your moving the analog to fast for the system to read it just slow down your hands. And take off tap jumping, and maybe change R to attack. At least thats what did it for me

 

[ynnek123]

WTF? I swear I once did Cdown Upz TWICE in a row with DEFAULT controls! but the timing is so weird, it's like you press them simultaneously but it's really shortly after, like 10 frames or something

 

[choknater]

it is actually more like 1 frame

 

[ynnek123]

xD yea kinda
after testing it a bit, I found out that the Cdown + UpA is WAY WAY easier to do and you also go further more easily. but it's also stupid and impractical to change your finger setup in the middle of a fight >_> so I think the best option is to do Cdown + UpL/R (L if you use R for your stuff, and R if you use L for your stuff. If you use both, LOL)

 

[choknater]

on the contrary....


actually, don't worry about it so much if you use your index finger on A. it's actually not that impractical to change your finger, as long as you successfully pull off the DACUS.

it's really all in the muscle memory. i never thought i could be able to do this more than half the time, but i find myself successfully using dacus all the time in practice/matches now.

i never wanted to resort to changing my controls, so i'm glad i was able to learn it


DACUS =
MUSCLE MEMORY

 

[ynnek123]

I can do it almost all of the time aswell, but I have to change my finger setup completely >_>
as in, index on Cstick, middle on A, and thumb on control stick lol

 

[rathy Aro]

It took me FOREVER to get the DACUS down (i couldn't even do it in slow mo), but after I did it JUST once I could do it pretty consistently. And the timing deosn't really change with your controls so I can do it with all control types (but my index finger doesn't like leaving R so I changed them). Now I just need to figure out what the hell its for.

 

[KRDsonic]

All you have to do with your fingers to do DACUS with the normal controls is just use your Index finger to press A... It's not like you're loosing anything for doing it for that period of time either since you can still block with L if you don't move your finger back quickly either...

 

[Noctournez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz8IhV9sYto

any questions? >_>

 

[ynnek123]

It took me FOREVER to get the DACUS down (i couldn't even do it in slow mo), but after I did it JUST once I could do it pretty consistently. And the timing deosn't really change with your controls so I can do it with all control types (but my index finger doesn't like leaving R so I changed them). Now I just need to figure out what the hell its for.

WTF? that's not true at all. the frame window is way, WAY smaller with Cdown Upz. I know it from experience because I started with UpZ and then I did it ith UpA.

And It's useful for mindgames, surprising your opponent, closing space quickly(NOT against falco >_>), and out of a grab release

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz8IhV9sYto

any questions? >_>

lol, I think everyone knows how to do it and how to put their fingers(I THINK! ), it's really hard to show it on a video or to explain it. you have to do it at least once to know the timing or be an expert at frame data. Some things just can't be explained

 

[Paladinight]

Hey I am not like an expert on this but the I think the c stick down and c stick up will work because I use the wiimote with nunchuk and changed the configuration so that the d-pad is similar to the c-stick and i manage to do every time, mainly from hours of practice using down smash to initiate the dash attack and up smash to do DACUS the motion for me is very smooth now.

If you do it with c-stick down then up try to make as very little of a movement needed to activate the dash attack and quickly go up.