Fox Compilation Combo/Video Thread - (Early/In Progress)

[EndlessRain]

Shofu has plenty lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=508REWQJkNk
That one is hilarious. Not particularly instructive, but there are a few strings in there which look pretty fly.

 

[Conda]

Shofu is entertaining - I mean he's an LPer who has a following - but I haven't personally found his Smash content to be too consistently helpful or interesting for competitive players. Great to have more Smash footage out there though.

 

[dizney]

A combo/string video I put together for Fox:

 

[EndlessRain]

Hmm. Nice stuff, dizney. I have to say, I thought it was a troll vid when I saw that the first few were just utilt strings
Also, a couple of those double jump uairs (the ones that missed) could be replaced with DJ fairs instead. And a few of the utilt strings would be complemented by a SH nair/uair/dair to finish or extend them, as they go on slightly too long and allow the opponent a chance to jump, UpB or attack to escape.

 

[Tylerfxm]

Has anyone figured out the FAir spike situation yet? I know it works all the time out of a short hop. But sometimes I do it out of a full jump, or even my second, But it's terribly inconsistent. HELP. I'm just trying to get it down to a science! Thanks.

 

[EndlessRain]

With multihit attacks, all the hits bar the last pull the opponent in the direction you are moving, so that the other hits can connect. So if you fast fall, they will send the opponent down. Landing before the last kick hits leaves you with only the "spike" hits. As does fast falling past them before the final kick.

 

[M@v]

Alright. Some up to date videos of my Fox from an Ohio Tourney Saturday.

Game 1, 3, and 4 is Fox here: (Fox vs Greninja and Lucario)

Game 3 for Fox on this one: (Fox vs ZSS)

 

[EndlessRain]

Really nice stuff Mav. Them SH dairs. And people say it was nerfed...
One thing though: In the second vid you don't tech. Like ever. You seem to be pretty good at getting them normally, was it intentional (you didn't get punished for it much) or just a bit of an off-day?

 

[M@v]

I don't remember to be honest. Based on how I normally play, I'm guess some of them were intentional, some were misses. If I ever don't wall tech, that's definitely a mistake haha. On stage though, I mix it up. Sometimes I tech, sometimes I don't if I think they are going to cover the tech option,.

 

[elmike]

I don't remember to be honest. Based on how I normally play, I'm guess some of them were intentional, some were misses. If I ever don't wall tech, that's definitely a mistake haha. On stage though, I mix it up. Sometimes I tech, sometimes I don't if I think they are going to cover the tech option,.

I see you use dair a lot when an opponent is starting his jump... why use it instead of nair? just because its a habit?

btw, i like your videos using fox

 

[M@v]

Both are good, you can use nair in those situations as well if you want to. Dair can do 12% damage with all hits compared to nair's 9%, and still has combo followups at low-mid percents. At higher percents, dair only leads into a few things, sometimes Dtilt if they di weird. Nair leads into more strings and combos at higher percent. However, you can sometimes follow up a dair with a nair, which lets you do the nair followups . Its just one of those things you have to play by ear and see how the match goes.

 

[Chainz]

Yo guys here a vid of me vs. ZSS, I need some feedback on my Fox game.Tell me some things u guys think I did that were good/ok moves. And what did I do that was bad/wrong move. Also what strategies do I need to work on or should do instead? Sorry for the cheap quality, filmed the replay w/my iphone. Aight much appreciated guys. (my bad for the repost, was told this the good place for the vids)

 

[EndlessRain]

@ Chainz Seems fairly solid. Some things I noticed: Your punish game needs a bit of work. You punished only one of ZSS's whiffed dairs successfully, and it was with a single dash attack. Same goes for the reflected Paralyzers. As soon as you see an opening like that, you need to take it. No time to stand around. Fox can combo nicely, but his approach is a little lacking. Free hits like that need to be capitalised on. You need to try to improve your ability to spot when your opponent has made a mistake that leaves them open, as well as your capacity to determine how best to use the opportunity. Also, you never really attempted to edgeguard. I can appreciate why, you were ahead and didn't really need to take the risk, but just letting them recover for free is not really the best. Even just squatting at the ledge and threatening a dsmash is more than nothing. You don't appear all that confident offstage in general (understandable, Fox drops like a rock once you leave solid ground). So that's something you could improve too.

About punishing: Dash attack is fine, as long as you follow it up. Dair and nair are my favourites for this. Especially dair, as it itself can be followed up by another dash attack if they pop in front at low percents, fair at high percents, and utilt at low behind you. Grabs are good too, smashes at high percents obv. Try jab cancel into dsmash or grab, gets you a lil extra and it looks damn cool.

Basically, work on punishing, converting the hits you do get, and just get more comfortable off the stage. Your fundamentals seem reasonably good, it's really just the Fox-specific things that you have to improve.

 

[Chainz]

Aight, good advice man. I know I dont use Fox's full potential. Which I should, but still getting there. Same with edge-guarding/off-stage beat up, when I play as the pikachu I can attack my opponent a good distance off the stage and still make it back. But w/Fox its more difficult cause of the different recovery situation. But u right, attacking off stage successfully is something I gotta improve on. As well as pulling off some more unique combos.

 

[Hidden Arwing]

Man, I've been really out of it., is there someone else available who can take over this thread? I've been quite busy.

 

[Bloodcross]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YscrOXCUeLE

some stuff you can do to Charizard when you shield a flare blitz.

 

[DEHF]

Here's a match of my Fox:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhK9L7qiQLw

There's more on my channel as well.

 

[EndlessRain]

I like that match a lot. It's a good example of controlling the game for the majority of the time, despite being technically behind at one point.

EDIT: Just realised that you are Larry Lurr. Never made that connection, your channel is pretty sweet mate.

 

[G-Sword]

Here's a match of my Fox:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhK9L7qiQLw

There's more on my channel as well.

Easily the best fox I seen

 

[EndlessRain]

idk I like Zero's more. But he's a Diddy now so y'know LL is probably the best.

 

[DavemanCozy]

@ DEHF I have a question:
http://youtu.be/JRauF_Lrv0Q?t=13m39s

How does one find out about such sick Fox things like dat nasty D-smash spike?

But ok, actual questions: how do you find the Falcon and Mario matchups? Any general tips you can think of giving a novice player on these MUs? I've been learning a lot watching your matches, your Fox is so solid.

 

[DEHF]

Both Mario and Falcon feel fairly evenish to me, Falcon is probably in Fox's favor. The best thing to keep in mind is not to over extend your combos and follow ups because it's so easy for those characters to punish you for making a mistake like that, especially Mario.

 

[G-Sword]

DEHF that spike was crazy. He was a good ways away and you wouldn't think that would hit and it did. I'm gonna have to experiment with that. Falcon is really not that tough. Definitely in fox's favor. Mario vs fox is about even though. Falcon its either you punish his mistakes and hammer him or you don't fight to direct. Falcon's movement is a bit slippery use that to your advantage and exploit that. A lot of times I just run straight forward on falcon while he is running towards and I can almost always get the dash attack or just run passed him and he can't hit/grab me.

 

[luke_atyeo]

that spike was mental, what the hell was that, I watched it again to check if you had trumped him and maybe it had to do with no ledge invincibility but that wasn't the case at all, does falcons hurtbox really go up that high?

 

[EndlessRain]

Yeah Falcon has a janky hurtbox. The alt colours have slightly different ones too, I have heard?

 

[G-Sword]

Yeah Falcon has a janky hurtbox. The alt colours have slightly different ones too, I have heard?

So we should be getting another patch lol

 

[Foster J.]

This is defo the case on Battlefield having longer ledges, as Falcon's recovery put him directly under it, giving Larry time to hit that Dsmash during the ledge grab vacuum frames.

Still ****ing nasty though

 

[Ffamran]

Long time, no see. Here's some footage of Japanese Fox/Dark Pit and Falco/ZSS. In like the first 30 seconds, the Fox player does some perfect pivots to do RAR (reverse aerial rush) Bairs. Well, that's what it looks like to me. I haven't watched the entire video yet as of this posting. Also, it's a taste for those unaware about Japan's style of SSB4. Enjoy my fellow Fox players.

 

[Foster J.]

Long time, no see. Here's some footage of Japanese Fox/Dark Pit and Falco/ZSS. In like the first 30 seconds, the Fox player does some perfect pivots to do RAR (reverse aerial rush) Bairs. Well, that's what it looks like to me. I haven't watched the entire video yet as of this posting. Also, it's a taste for those unaware about Japan's style of SSB4. Enjoy my fellow Fox players.

I think the first part of that video is almost a perfect example for the Fox v Falco match up thread you made, whenever Falco can get the punish Fox eats it.

 

[DavemanCozy]

This pool was a fraud because Tearbear and Phuzix (1st and 2nd seeds) got Dq'd.

But either way, I got the losers match of the pool on stream at Apex:

I love Keitaro's and False's commentary, as they point out the flaws and predictable things that I do. In that sense, I'd appreciate any input from anyone else here; anyone who could analyze my match and provide feedback, I would greatly appreciate.

 

[Timbers]

"Cozy lookin'...cozy"

Nice matches. You were definitely the better player. I'm sure you're aware by now but I'd be more conservative about trying to pressure Ness on the edge. Bthrow is dumb, I almost cried when it nearly killed you at 65%~.

Good stuff.

 

[G-Sword]

noob question but what is the easiest way to take video from your replays so you can upload them to the tube? i have 3 matches showing how a high level fox should be played as well as how to properly beat and overcome a diddy kong and ganondorf

 

[Zelkam]

noob question but what is the easiest way to take video from your replays so you can upload them to the tube? i have 3 matches showing how a high level fox should be played as well as how to properly beat and overcome a diddy kong and ganondorf

There's a few different ways you can do it. Probably the best, but most expensive way is to buy a video capture card. Personally, I use an Elgato HD 60 which allows me to capture videos in 1080p at 60fps. That's gonna cost you around $175, though. Of course there are cheaper capture cards available, but you're bound to sacrifice quality for it. You could get a Dazzle for around $50, but you'll have to use it's composite cables so you'll only be able to record at 480p. One method I used several years ago was to get some blank DVD's and record the gameplay with our DVD player. Then I would put the DVD in my computer and rip the video. Definitely a round about way of doing it, but it was the best I could do at the time. Lastly, you could just take a camcorder or your phone and point it at the TV. The quality isn't going to be great, obviously, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. My only suggestion if you're gonna use the last option is to prop your recorder on something instead of holding it so the video isn't shaky.

hope that helps!

 

[G-Sword]

There's a few different ways you can do it. Probably the best, but most expensive way is to buy a video capture card. Personally, I use an Elgato HD 60 which allows me to capture videos in 1080p at 60fps. That's gonna cost you around $175, though. Of course there are cheaper capture cards available, but you're bound to sacrifice quality for it. You could get a Dazzle for around $50, but you'll have to use it's composite cables so you'll only be able to record at 480p. One method I used several years ago was to get some blank DVD's and record the gameplay with our DVD player. Then I would put the DVD in my computer and rip the video. Definitely a round about way of doing it, but it was the best I could do at the time. Lastly, you could just take a camcorder or your phone and point it at the TV. The quality isn't going to be great, obviously, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. My only suggestion if you're gonna use the last option is to prop your recorder on something instead of holding it so the video isn't shaky.

hope that helps!

Thx a lot yeah I'm gonna either just use my phone a blank DVD. Should have these videos up by tomorrow.

 

[Ffamran]

Check these out: Mr. Pink's Fox vs. Rice's Dr. Mario: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ90sIJ07KY.

Mr. Pink's Fox vs. Andy_Sauro's Bowser Jr.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShvueELUakQ.

Marloda's Fox vs. Waael's Ness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgzvB5JpzeA.

 

[G-Sword]

Vs. GGanondorf
http://youtu.be/boBONPqihx4

Vs. Diddy same guy... First video I was losing but than you can see that I change things up and deny him the grab. 2nd match you see it more.
http://youtu.be/1okU8pIJsPI
http://youtu.be/OKmUQHZUyNY

Next I will have up me against different ness. Showing how that match up really is.

 

[HI5]

Any good videos of Fox vs Luigi?

 

[Ffamran]

Any good videos of Fox vs Luigi?

Aside from the recently uploaded videos from a recent Xanadu, I don't know. Enjoy.

Snow's Fox vs. Boss's Luigi (Winners Quarters): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mge0U5dl_XY.

Snow's Fox vs. Boss's Luigi (Losers Semi): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgCJAyG86CQ.

Snow's Fox vs. Coney's Ness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEYepLWwnyg.

Snow's Fox vs. Malcolm's Wario (Winners Side): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8lf0Ewre-Q.

Snow's Fox vs. Malcom's Wario (Losers Quarters): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTL8QkluDhM.

 

[M@v]

Hey arwing, the op could really use an update with all these new videos

 

[HI5]

Aside from the recently uploaded videos from a recent Xanadu, I don't know. Enjoy.

Snow's Fox vs. Boss's Luigi (Winners Quarters): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mge0U5dl_XY.

Snow's Fox vs. Boss's Luigi (Losers Semi): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgCJAyG86CQ.

Snow's Fox vs. Coney's Ness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEYepLWwnyg.

Snow's Fox vs. Malcolm's Wario (Winners Side): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8lf0Ewre-Q.

Snow's Fox vs. Malcom's Wario (Losers Quarters): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTL8QkluDhM.

These are great, thanks! It seems like Luigi has a pretty good advantage on Fox? At least the ability to rack up damage much more quickly through combos, whereas fox seems to need to tack on a little here and there.