Social "For my Father" - Lucina Social Thread

[LordXav1er]

I'm old Dx

 

[FamilyTeam]

Ah, man... It's sad my premium account ran out today.
Other than that, yeah. CCI's not exactly being the best place in the world, right now. It never was.

 

[ぱみゅ]

I think it is great that some of you guys still have the energy to debate at the CCI. At this point I've given up and don't care when people just assume Lucina's matchups are just "Marth -1".



In other news, I got 7th at a small tourney today. What is important about it is that I beat a Luigi, a matchup I've always dreaded. Then I lost to a Cloud, when I normally had that matchup well known. Welp, there is always a next time.

 

[FamilyTeam]

Yeah.... I honestly gave up, for now. I did my best. I really did. But if these people don't want to learn, atleast I can live safe knowing the ignorance is not on me.

 

[LordXav1er]

http://challonge.com/Sm4sh_Hardcore


2nd Place last night keep it rolling with the same energy tonight hopefully!

 

[FamilyTeam]

Koga's going to TBH6 tomorrow! Apparently his first matchup is Rich Brown?
Best of luck for both players! Let's of course hope Lucina wins

 

[LordXav1er]

Ding Dong still bodies me.


As for Kogarasuma he got this, I'll be watching and cheering for you buddy Kogarasuma and the rest of New England out there!!!

 

[ぱみゅ]

So apparently Nairo went Robin/Lucina at Little Big House and got pretty great results.

 

[CanadianCourage]

I think Kogarasuma has a good shot at beating Rich brown. the Mewtwo matchup is pretty good in my opinion.

 

[LordXav1er]

Yeah Nairo got 7th. Mewtwo vs Lucina is definitely doable he has better mobility so be careful of that otherwise catch them teleportation and landings.

 

[mario sucks]

Do any of you know where (what store) I can find a Lucina amiibo?

 

[Tino]

I noticed that her amiibo is available for preorder at Best Buy along with a few others. Seems like the restocking of those is real; I would take advantage of that while you got the chance. I don't know about the other stores though.

 

[ぱみゅ]

Got 13th today.
Could've gone further but I got clutch-spiked by a Charizard. His butt is much bigger than it seems.

 

[Kogarasuma]

Forgot to mention but went 1-2 against rich brown last stock last hit died by grabbed but he complemented my lucina and said I was the best one he's ever played against, and a bunch of people wanted friendlies with me, second national I've been at and I'm loving it already next up genesis 4.

 

[CanadianCourage]

Forgot to mention but went 1-2 against rich brown last stock last hit died by grabbed but he complemented my lucina and said I was the best one he's ever played against, and a bunch of people wanted friendlies with me, second national I've been at and I'm loving it already next up genesis 4.

Very good, did you get anyone to record it? I'd love to watch.

 

[FamilyTeam]

Nice going, Koga! I'm sure you're gonna do even better next time!

 

[LordXav1er]

Awesome job Kogarasuma

Genesis 4 Hype!!!

Ended up getting 2nd here 2 days in a row winning dubz tho at least.

 

[VeryUncreative]

Great job Kogarasuma !

Anyways, how do you guys keep playing Lucina? I find it hard to not switch to Marth when he is just way safer and more rewarding than her. I'm currently resisting the switch, but I don't know how much a longer I can hold out. I think that Marth has a higher skill cap because of tipper too, so he'll be better in the long run. People have said Lucina is better in the long run because you won't be landing every move as a tipper, but I think if you're good enough, and you can predict your opponent, you could land most moves as one.

I guess the only reason I'm still playing her is waifu appeal.

Thanks!

 

[FamilyTeam]

Great job Kogarasuma !

Anyways, how do you guys keep playing Lucina? I find it hard to not switch to Marth when he is just way safer and more rewarding than her. I'm currently resisting the switch, but I don't know how much a longer I can hold out. I think that Marth has a higher skill cap because of tipper too, so he'll be better in the long run. People have said Lucina is better in the long run because you won't be landing every move as a tipper, but I think if you're good enough, and you can predict your opponent, you could land most moves as one.

I guess the only reason I'm still playing her is waifu appeal.

Thanks!

Personal preference. From a subjective standpoint, I just prefer Lucina as a character and person, I find her cute and the moves she does look nice. From an objective standpoint, I will always do my best to defend Lucina's viability in the metagame, as I do believe she does hold her own very well, including against Marth. Marth has the potential to be more rewarding, but I just prefer the rewards you get as Lucina, since I do just feel myself they seem more substantial. I also do not think Marth is somehow "safer" than Lucie.
Overall, Lucie is just a character I love a lot, and I'm willing to go great lengths to show to people how good I think she really is.

 

[VeryUncreative]

I also do not think Marth is somehow "safer" than Lucie.

But don't tippers have more shield stun?

Anyway I think that Lucina has better edgeguarding, because it seems hard to hit tippers reliably offstage, and I agree with the opinion of some top players that Lucina does better in certain matchups. She is definitely almost or equally as viable as Marth.

In retrospect I think I made it sound that I was completely switching to Marth, but I'll be using both characters depending on who I'm facing, which is a smart move, probably.

 

[FamilyTeam]

But don't tippers have more shield stun?

Anyway I think that Lucina has better edgeguarding, because it seems hard to hit tippers reliably offstage, and I agree with the opinion of some top players that Lucina does better in certain matchups. She is definitely almost or equally as viable as Marth.

In retrospect I think I made it sound that I was completely switching to Marth, but I'll be using both characters depending on who I'm facing, which is a smart move, probably.

From what I heard: A bit more, not that much more. He gets stuck for a few of those frames. They shield safety data is actually mostly the same. I have an image laying somewhere.

This one

 

[VeryUncreative]

That's quite interesting actually. I never would have thought that having 3 more damage on a move only has one more frame of shield advantage. (In the case of fsmash)

And if you don't HIT the tipper...

This might be off topic a bit, but I felt like sharing something I found, but it has probably already been found before.

As Marth if you try to hit a tipper on an opponent, and they shield, you won't hit the shield as a tipper.
And likewise, trying to hit an opponents shield as a tipper, and they drop shield, you will completely whiff the move.
(Or maybe I'm just bad)

Jeez, I'm sounding anti-Marth now.

 

[ぱみゅ]

I keep playing Lucina because I feel my bigger player strengths is that I can edgeguard, exert pressure and get reads well, but with Marth I often don't get enough reward because the opponent is moving and the tipper doesn't hit. I rather keep the guaranteed damage and kill setups that don't depend so much on spacing to focus on my opponent's actions rather than both characters'.

 

[Kogarasuma]

I keep playing lucina because I'm bad kappa

 

[VeryUncreative]

Don't worry Kogarasume, I'm bad too. But there's no kappa for me.

Interesting view, that one person with weird Japanese characters for a name. I completely agree that some people are better with Lucina than Marth, and who knows, maybe I will be too when I get better at this game.

 

[FamilyTeam]

So. I got my Wii U yesterday. It even came with a Pro Controller.
I've been labbing stuff out with it, a real controller, and... wow.
Running Shield Breakers and Grounded Wavebounces? Is this the stuff I've been missing out on all this time?
Why do I never see Marcina players use those two more often?

EDIT:

Sorry for the arse-like quality. Has anyone ever seen this before? I can see this being really useful.

 

[VeryUncreative]

I actually noticed this a few days ago, but I figured most Marcina mains knew. You seem to slide farther that usual grounded b-reverses too. Sucks you have to wait for the dash to end.

 

[FamilyTeam]

Hey, people.
Don't know how many of you'll end up seeing this (or even caring) but I'll just say that I'll mostly be leaving this forum, from now on. I have been thoroughly dissatisfied with a lot of things in this site for months (mostly related to reliability of information and community stuff in general, sadly not something that can ever truly be fixed) and now I finally have access to a Wii U, and in a few weeks, the Wii U version of Smash. I'd much rather spend time actually playing the game than discussing it, especially since, lately, I feel like I have learned next to nothing in the arguments I have had, here.
I will come here basically to only check this thread. If you guys want to add me on your Wii U, I'd suggest waiting a bit, actually, since I've been having some technical difficulties that extend beyond just me not having Smash at the moment.
See you around.

 

[Kogarasuma]

Hey, people.
Don't know how many of you'll end up seeing this (or even caring) but I'll just say that I'll mostly be leaving this forum, from now on. I have been thoroughly dissatisfied with a lot of things in this site for months (mostly related to reliability of information and community stuff in general, sadly not something that can ever truly be fixed) and now I finally have access to a Wii U, and in a few weeks, the Wii U version of Smash. I'd much rather spend time actually playing the game than discussing it, especially since, lately, I feel like I have learned next to nothing in the arguments I have had, here.
I will come here basically to only check this thread. If you guys want to add me on your Wii U, I'd suggest waiting a bit, actually, since I've been having some technical difficulties that extend beyond just me not having Smash at the moment.
See you around.

Hope everything goes well man!

 

[Tomoya]

Rich Brown needs to play me then hehe. But I'm probs gonna play Texas reps this Saturday. San Antonio is so fun when you have players like Megafox, Espy, and Illusion to body you lol

 

[LordXav1er]

Got 3rd last night.

Weekly Thursday and possibly another one Friday... Then to tear it up at Invasion 9 saturday with ya boy Kogarasuma

 

[Kogarasuma]

https://clips.twitch.tv/underworldgamez/CuriousSheepBuddhaBar

 

[LordXav1er]

YASSSS sent him to the Shadow Realm lol

 

[Tomoya]

im waiting for a vid from last weekly where i beat a pr member my first time showing up lol

 

[LordXav1er]

Who did you body?

 

[Tomoya]

a little mac player named ninjafish, he's top 6 in the pr i think. but it was my first tourney. so people were pretty impressed.

 

[Tomoya]

https://smash.gg/tournament/impact-2/attendees
this is where i'll be bopped at this Saturday. hopefully i can make it out of pools

 

[LordXav1er]

Ahhh nice job. Don't let them Lil Mac's recover!

 

[rhyming_beats]

Hey guys!

I just wanted to ask your opinions on what you think my secondary competitive character should be. Here are some details about me:

• I main Lucina
• Likes combos, and mildly technical techniques
• I like to have a little space between me and my characters

I tried Greninja but after 5 hours of playing him, it seems like I can't pull off any footstool combos online.

Also, I need a secondary because I sometimes get bored using the same character over and over again.

P.S. I was advised to post this here since I added this in the wrong board lol

 

[Tomoya]

Well, if you wanna play Greninja he'd have to be your main cause it takes time and dedication to perform those combos consistantly, as said from our Greninja player here. Lucina isn't reall combo heavy imo unless you just like to risk stocks which is fine by me, but my recommendation would be Samus. After watching my friend Joker play Samus, i picked her up to play lower players in friendlies or just for general fun. She has combos, and some tech that requires you to master as well as a bunch of stylish things you can pull off. She can space out opponents with zair, rockets, neutral b, and just spacing in particular. With all that said, you maining Lucina would be difficult considering your current mindset or preferred style of play, but feel free to experiment.