Sorry about time johns etc. etc.
I know I said I'd post yesterday, but I'll do a partial post today which I will hopefully explain more tomorrow.
For now. I honestly think X1 is town. I think that X1 does some tunneling, I think his tunneling causes him to do desperate things to see if he is right about his hunches because he is impatient. The "bargaining" for an OS lynch sounds really scummy, but I don't think scum OS would say something like that in this scenario.
So I tried a lay a trap for FF and it failed, or at least did not quite give me the results I was looking for. I thought FF and OS were scum partners. This comes from my personal meta FF. Allow us to travel back to day 1. Again I'm gonna go back to OS's post #242
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12013283&postcount=242
So I respond in my #267
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12015911&postcount=267
Basically, I called out OS for saying his scumhunting seemed ingenuine. I have been over this many times. So here is the thing about FF that made me think he is scum. To explain things I know about FF, is he really likes to have a mentoring position. He likes explaining things to people, he likes coaching people, especially his friends. That being said, he would be very likely to critique any claims I make against anyone and explain either why he agrees or disagrees. His first big post was #373
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12029024&postcount=373
I haven't done much to the point where he has read up to at this point, but he does comment on my Raziek callout and "getthelurker" rant. His next large post is 499
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12050826&postcount=499
In this post he brings up OS's 274
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12017472&postcount=274
He completely ignores my 272. He completely ignores my case against OS. Doesn't say its good or bad, just doesn't talk about it. He clearly has read my post, he is commenting on OS, but throughout his long catch up post that is dissecting everyone, he Completely ignores the battle between me and OS that encompasses multiple posts.
This does not match up with the FF I know. He is going through the posts and commenting on them methodically. Yet OS and I duke it out, and I give a substantial reason behind why I think he is scum. FF would not have missed this. FF would not have ignored this... Unless he is scum partners with OS.
If FF is town and my analysis that OS'S 242 says OS is scum is a good analysis, FF would say he agrees. If FF is town and he thinks my analysis was a bad analysis he would have explained why it is bad. However, if FF was scum partners with OS, then he would not want to address my analysis at all, because addressing my analysis only would further bring attention to OS. Furthermore, I feel the reason FF did not try to disassemble my argument against OS is because my argument against him was valid, and trying to disassemble my argument against OS would have made FF look scummy to me.
That being said, I was really hoping that asking FF to discuss his feelings of OS that it would further convince me that he is scum. Unfortunately, his post did not. Regarding FF, this may sound like fairly general mafia strategy, but were he scum he would look for dumb arguments people make, and use those arguments to justify lynching that player.
This is exactly what OS did to get ZEN lynched. Zen had a terrible plan, OS explained why this plan was terrible. He and I came to a fairly similar dissection of why Sen's plan is bad and came to different conclusions. To me, this play was simply too terrible for some one to make as scum, unless this person had a reputation for being terrible. I think it would have been super ballsy and not worth while for ZEN to hope to out a PR like doctor were he a mafia stunner, since I'm sure his scum partners would have realized his "i can clear Nabe or not" would have drawn way too much attention.
My point is, I was hoping to confirm for myself that FF was scum by hoping to catch him proposing an argument to justify a lynch that I was convinced he would not actually believe in. That being said, poor town play is making way to easy to call for lynches on people, without me being able to decipher whether or not FF truly believes in his arguments.
FF is currently voting X1, whose tunelling and bargaining look bad, but as I said, I hoently believe X1 to be town. I cannot tell if FF's argument against X1 is genuine or not. Also, if I am right and FF and OS are scum, he has expressed a willingness to bus his partner as seen in his #1836
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12229888&postcount=1836
As I had mentioned, OS used an inconsistent line of logic against me. I feel like if FF and OS are partners, FF realized that this was too big a screw up to just let fly by. That being said, FF still leaves room to vote other players over OS.
I really think that if FF were town, he would have commented on the interaction between me and OS long ago without me asking him to comment on it. I strongly advise PR checks on FF toNight after an OS lynch.
VOTE:OVERSWARM