Xastrn
Dastrn|Xatres
That was 2am. I wasn't exactly excited about doing a reread and putting together a list.
I'm up early (for me, especially considering I couldn't fall asleep until 4am) because I have an OSS group (open source software) meeting with some colleagues at lunch. I won't make a list until mid or late afternoon at the earliest, and I said above that I may or may not give it to you yet, depending on a handful of factors, the greatest being the necessity for a conversation with Xatres and my hope that he can read the action from when he left last night until now.
I still haven't been provided a QT from the mod.
@Circus should I wait longer, or just create one and post it to you in a PM so me and FML can get things rolling. It seems that some players have tricks up their sleeves that they intend to unleash to guarantee a scum win, and I'd sure like to have some time to get with FML soon. Thank you sir.
We still haven't heard from a number of players and while I think more conversation about our play at the end of D1 is appropriate, I'd really like to hear from people what they make of other issues as well. Let's hear both.
In particular, I'm interested in hearing people's thoughts on RR's behavior today, Kary's pressure on me, and other ideas about why each person was chosen to be killed N1.
@All Explain what you think a scum strategy that YOU would adopt going into toDay. Please contrast that strategy with the actions of all toDay.
I'd like to reiterate something important: if we were scum just dying to kill soup, why did we ask for the separation to happen AFTER we had heard more? Even my attackers are saying that we've played a "textbook town" approach all game, only offering pro-town ideas, only making pro-town cases, and only defending ourselves in a pro-town manner. They are using this to suggest that we are just doing all of this pro-town stuff to hide behind it so we can truly be anti-town.
How well would that strategy have worked if our proposed rules been adopted by the town on D1? How likely is it that we have played that way if we were scum? Potassium (I think it was him) even referenced Majora's Mask mafia when we hydra'd scum and played horribly and made it clear we suck as scum and all we did was paint ourselves into a corner. (That was his read, there were other significant factors in that game, but w/e).
Is our play this game anything like what you've seen or heard of us in other games. We just about single-handedly won Oddworld mafia as vanilla town.
I read someone's post in the mafia V/LA thread a couple of days ago that mentioned that everyone in D-Games has over yomi-ed this game to the point at which most everything is a coinflip. We have not been active during the era in which this has happened, so I didn't know that until the other day.
Is it reasonable for us to have played the way we did D1 if we were scum, assuming that my attackers are right and we played textbook town with only pro-town behavior? Where were these attackers yesterday, if so? Kary was not on any bandwagon for us yesterday. RR barely interacted with me (or anyone. His post count was LOW by the end of the day.) other than 4 or 5 fast posts in reply to my case against him.
There really wasn't any heat on us until soup exploded and killed himself by all rights, and we simply hammered to avoid any shenanigans. Before you cry foul because this hammer didn't happen according to our rules, YES IT DID. We asked for town consent in our rules and it was there. We asked for a designated hammer and you all refused, probably for good reasons. Xatres took a risk making that kill, but it was easily the lesser of two evils given soup's behavior, his attempt to lash out and attack, and the early attack attempt on soup when he was still connected.
So yes, we DID play according to our "with town consent" rule. It wasn't a quickshot by any means. The only thing missing was a "can we hammer or will someone else volunteer?" Which by our opinion would have been bad if soup's claim was true and scum was ready to scoop that weapon to victory.
TL:DR Scroll up and read anyways.
