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Fire Emblem 7 Mafia Poisoned Mutton Edition - Mafia Wins.

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kind of hesitant to vote for myself though, since this might actually be gameover for the town :laugh:
 

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oh wait

there's eight of us left

I have Ryu, Shish, Opo, and Barney voting for me

IF I VOTE MYSELF IT'S A QL

omg

do I do it?????
 

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If you're Town, then the only sensible team is Moydow/Unikorn/LoneKon, I think, so it shouldn't be game over.

But if it is gameover, then, well, gosh diddly darn.

You just dug a hole too deep for yourself, and there's so many strange things that you did this game. Self voting in MyLo, disagreeing with me on having an order even though you felt I was likely Town, you flip flopped on so many slots pretty quickly and never really stuck to your guns on a lot of topics. Very hypocritical during the Shish gambit with Opo; you said I was really suspicious and "opportunistic" for voting for Opo even though you yourself suggested that Opo should be lynched for coming up as non-vanilla!

We'll see what happens.
 

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Self voting in MyLo
I always vote myself
disagreeing with me on having an order even though you felt I was likely Town
If I ask for reason and get denied, I never cooperate
you flip flopped on so many slots pretty quickly
what slots? I remember Uni D1 but I made my mind up on Uni being the better one pretty quick and stuck with it ever since
never really stuck to your guns on a lot of topics.
which topics? :confused:
you said I was really suspicious and "opportunistic" for voting for Opo even though you yourself suggested that Opo should be lynched for coming up as non-vanilla!
My point was that yeah, he should be lynched, but I didn't put my vote on him, I waited, you on the other hand did vote
 

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how is Opo/Shish/Ryu not a sensible team? If I'm town, why couldn't Uni also be town?
 

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I feel like I never really flip flopped on my main suspicions? I stayed suspicious of Ryu ever since D2, I was reading Shish null for most the game until I made him a mafia read today, and Opo I was reading town D2 but he fits in perfectly with Ryu & Shish, and he's not very active so I could have easily been misreading him
 

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if I'm town btw the game's over if Uni was Town

there's only 8 of us now, 5 townies 3 mafia

after my lynching it'll be 4/3

Mafia kills and makes it 3/3

so town!Uni & town!Pokechu lynches = Game Over
 

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You voted for yourself in possibly MyLo, which means you were being an incredibly selfish person and throwing the game for Town. You left the vote on for 50 minutes when it was possible that scum could QL you. What townie would do this?

Not cooperating with someone who is clearly town aligned from your PoV is totally insensible, and it wasn't a request that made sense for you to pick a fight with. Why even fight with it?

Regarding flip flopping from my notes:

Pokechu – First claimed Vanilla, Matthew, #141. Not aligned with Shish based on interactions around #150. Makes odd statement in #153, stating that the game is mostly vanillas. #204 distances Unikorn. Flip flops in #216 and says Unikorn is probably Town. #224, distances Shish. #245 distances Shish more. #267 not SvS with Shish. Distances Ura in #403, claims Unikorn is probably scum in #649. Didn't vote for him though. Flip flopped on Ura.

Me voting for Opossum is less scummy than you not voting but suggesting that he be lynched IMO. Either way, the intent was made clear on where our directions were going, it just seems odd that we shared the same direction.
 

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You voted for yourself in possibly MyLo, which means you were being an incredibly selfish person and throwing the game for Town. You left the vote on for 50 minutes when it was possible that scum could QL you. What townie would do this?
have you met me? LOL

in one of these games, I knew praline was mafia from the start, I was town, but she was my HOMIE!!!! I wouldn't snitch her out like that !!!
Not cooperating with someone who is clearly town aligned from your PoV is totally insensible, and it wasn't a request that made sense for you to pick a fight with. Why even fight with it?
if I'm part of some plan, I'd like to know the reasoning

that's just my cold hard stance

in hindsight I was really aggressive and I didn't need to be, I apologize. But I still would've voted myself now if it happened again
 

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HOMIE!!!!
I live for my homies

I die for my homies

nah, I didn't KNOW she was mafia, but I was mafia reading her when no one else was, and she really was mafia. But I chose to mostly keep my read to myself, I told the mayor that she should be looked into and that was it
 

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You voted for yourself in possibly MyLo, which means you were being an incredibly selfish person and throwing the game for Town. You left the vote on for 50 minutes when it was possible that scum could QL you. What townie would do this?
a townie confident that 2/3 of the scum had already voted for me, so I couldn't get QL'd LOL

still really curious though, why can't ryu/shish/opo be the mafia team? I see in your Doc that you have Opo/Shish as likely not scum together.
 

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Well, uh, if you flip Town, I'm yelling at you in post-game, I guess. :awesome:

Still, if the game doesn't end, it only means that Uni is scum, so...yeah?

I'm going to bed, toodledoodles.
 

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No matter how you slice it, that gambit just does not look artificial or fake. If it is, they did a good job, I can't really say much else about it.

As a result, Red Ryu/Shish/Opo doesn't make sense.

Regarding voting for yourself: I mean, if you want to. If you're scum, I would do it because it would cut off any further circulation of information. If you're Town, I'd wait this out and see reactions even though it's likely you will die.
 

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No matter how you slice it, that gambit just does not look artificial or fake. If it is, they did a good job, I can't really say much else about it.

As a result, Red Ryu/Shish/Opo doesn't make sense.

Regarding voting for yourself: I mean, if you want to. If you're scum, I would do it because it would cut off any further circulation of information. If you're Town, I'd wait this out and see reactions even though it's likely you will die.
idk, I find it odd that Opo really only showed up for that part of the day, after that was done he essentially vanished

and if they planned it before hand, like during N1, it wouldn't be hard to make it feel genuine. All Shish had to do was tell Opo "OK when you were scum you did this, so do the opposite now"

that's why I'm not counting it out
 

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that's why I voted for Ryu today too, since it is possible the gambit was real, sand Ryu's the sketchiest regardless
 

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hmmm IDK I'm kind of curious if Uni was scum or not

I'm betting that he was town, he my homie and I have faith, but IDK, getting curious now, so I'm probably gonna vote myself soon
 

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I'll humor you.

Let's say the gambit was real, and Opo's reaction is real. Red Ryu could still be scum, right?

But who is his scum mates? It would have to be LoneKon, yourself, or Moydow.

However, Moydow and LoneKon have BOTH been pushing Ryu since D1 and have consistently continued to do so up until now. It seems really unnecessary from both of them to do this to their mate when a Ryu lynch was gaining traction with you onboard and others voicing some concern towards his slot.

How does LoneKon/Moydow make sense?
 

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Well, uh, if you flip Town, I'm yelling at you in post-game, I guess. :awesome:
o wait wait wait I just saw this

Yelling at me for what?
How does LoneKon/Moydow make sense?
It doesn't. That's why I don't think the gambit has to be real.

But you could still be mafia. After all, Joja popping up only townreads you, it doesn't town confirm you. Maybe you replace Opo in Shish/Opo/Ryu. And I would've been right about pushing you Day 2 :'^))))))
Regarding voting for yourself: I mean, if you want to. If you're scum, I would do it because it would cut off any further circulation of information. If you're Town, I'd wait this out and see reactions even though it's likely you will die.
Gross post. :mad:
 

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since Shadow got hostkilled, and I'm getting lynched, can I get his vengeful role? LOL
 

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BarDulL BarDulL I mean, IDK. You voted Shish with no explanation, and when you got pushed by Ryu you switched to me, even though you yourself had told people to not quicklynch me. ???????
 

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That was a quick flip flop. Didn't you just suggest that Myself/Shish/Red Ryu could be scum together? Now you're trying to use voting for Shish and being pushed by Ryu as an excuse to paint me as scum?



I've got to sleep. Later gator.
 

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That was a quick flip flop. Didn't you just suggest that Myself/Shish/Red Ryu could be scum together? Now you're trying to use voting for Shish and being pushed by Ryu as an excuse to paint me as scum?



I've got to sleep. Later gator.
You asked for my honest opinion. And now you're dissing me for it??

Wow, Barney. Thought we had some'n special
 

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you're seeing scumtells where they don't exist... again :S

You're not Batman. You're not even Aquaman.
 

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you're seeing scumtells where they don't exist... again :S

You're not Batman. You're not even Aquaman.
This post implies that Aquaman isn't on Batman's level. That's true. Aquaman is far beyond Batman's level.
 

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Hmm. With Pokechu at L-1 (one vote to be lynched), and it has really been a while since I placed my vote, it means that either I've been bamboozled by Opossum/Shish/Red Ryu, or I'm right, I think? Surely a scum Moydow or scum LoneKon would have hammered by now in MyLo. Again, I would be really surprised if the collective of Opossum/Shish/RedRyu is the scum team based on what we know. If someone can prove to me that it is likely, I could reconsider my vote.

This post implies that Aquaman isn't on Batman's level. That's true. Aquaman is far beyond Batman's level.
Since the statement implies an upward trend, does that make me Superman? :awesome:

you're seeing scumtells where they don't exist... again :S

You're not Batman. You're not even Aquaman.
Nah, you're right. I just like posting pictures of Batman interrogating people when I think they're scum, lmao. I could be wrong about this, but I don't think so.

Ura Ura

 

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Are you asking Ura to be the last vote?

I can just vote myself, that's waaaay cooler LOL
 

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I’m going to be seriously questioning post game why people have been calling me scum and pairing me with who they have. I legitimately don’t get what people have an issue with me other that.

Isn’t Ryu really suspicious? How Ryu because I said so. I really really really don’t get it. This is the 3rd most baffling time in my carrier in mafia since no one can really give me a legitimate answer I can talk with them about other than random gut feelings.

Or that i’m Mates with PokeChu somehow.

Either way not sure what else to say here other than why were people hesitant on Pokechu in the first place? I outlined a lot earlier and people just ignored it when I pointed out the two- three times his posts and behavior don’t make sense from a toen point of view.
 

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I’m going to be seriously questioning post game why people have been calling me scum and pairing me with who they have. I legitimately don’t get what people have an issue with me other that.

Isn’t Ryu really suspicious? How Ryu because I said so. I really really really don’t get it. This is the 3rd most baffling time in my carrier in mafia since no one can really give me a legitimate answer I can talk with them about other than random gut feelings.

Or that i’m Mates with PokeChu somehow.

Either way not sure what else to say here other than why were people hesitant on Pokechu in the first place? I outlined a lot earlier and people just ignored it when I pointed out the two- three times his posts and behavior don’t make sense from a toen point of view.
I've outlined so many times why I think you're suspicious

You're eager to tear me down and try to provide an argument against me, but what you're trying to provide... isn't an argument. It's just empty. You almost constantly refuse to defend your points and you haven't bothered responding to what I've told you. What you've stated about me simply isn't convincing because it all revolves around ONE post, and yet you've pushed it from D1 to now.
 

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I think the lynch is imminent and Ura is confirmed Town through Spak, so him voting doesn't necessarily change anything.

The only thing I ask is that you tell us why you poisoned Dorcas! He was a family man. What's Natalie going to do?
 

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Is it because I post in long strings to catch up? Is it because I post wierd? Is it because i work long hours so I only post from mobile when I can? Seriously I do not get it.
 

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I've outlined so many times why I think you're suspicious

You're eager to tear me down and try to provide an argument against me, but what you're trying to provide... isn't an argument. It's just empty. You almost constantly refuse to defend your points and you haven't bothered responding to what I've told you. What you've stated about me simply isn't convincing because it all revolves around ONE post, and yet you've pushed it from D1 to now.
Yeah and your reasoning is terrible.

It’s because I went on you and thought Ura claimed Indy, despite bardull and Shish saying the same and agreeing no one batted at eye. Why so selective for a Mislynch?
 

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I find Opo/Shish/Ryu likely because Shish and Ryu have been really buddy buddy

I remember D1 that after Shish vs Uni Ryu was the first to state this
Don’t feel good with a Shish lynch gut feel of town that got in over their head. The abrasive ness doesn’t look like scum motivation.
And throughout the whole game, they really have been chummy. Shish refused a lynch on Ryu, they're both reading each other town, and they've had various interactions where they've agreed completely on something, such as my lack of voting. And they're BOTH trying to use my lack of voting as a reason to mark me suspicious, even though Shish should already know I'm a poor voter. I know he does know. Yet he's siding with Ryu to try and get me lynched.

So, Shish/Red Ryu is completely possible.

Opo/Shish, the gambit could have been faked, as there may have been better people to choose. Moy, an inactive, also claimed vanilla, so she may have been a better choice to gambit on as Opo had been more active. After the gambit, I believe both started reading each other as town.

Opo/Ryu is a tough one, because they haven't interacted much I believe, but there's been no distancing and Ryu even said in his list of reads IIRC that he felt Opo had town intents.

I also find it strange how similar Ryu and Opo's reads are.
Uni, Pokechu, Lone.

Pokechu, Lone, Red Ryu. Last one was a toss up between Red and Moydow, but I don't have enough of a feel for Moydow's playstyle yet to get a good read.
If uni was mafia, Pokechu>MoyDow/LoneKon>Unikorn

If uni was town, PokeChu>Moydow/LoneKon>Oppo
Both are suspicious of me, of course, but they also both side against Moy and Kon, likely because they're just inactive. I think it should be obvious that Moy and Kon have genuine town intent, as both have been providing views that no one else has. But Ryu and Ryu chose to put in Moy and Kon in their scum teams. This shows that they both have a similar stance. Combined with their quick votes on me (Opo at the start of the Day, Ryu after Barney votes Shish), and them being scum together would not surprise me.
 

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You also said I was “legitimately trying to get Spak lynched” despite him liking my posts and knowing it was an RVS joke like everyone else pickec up on.
 

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Votecount:

Pokechu- (4) Shishœ, Opossum, Red Ryu, Bardull
Shishœ-
Opossum-
Ura-
LoneKonWolf-
Bardull-
Red Ryu- (1) Pokechu
Moydow-

Currently voting: Shishoe, Opossum, Pokechu, Bardull, Red Ryu,

Not Voting: Ura, Lonekonwolf, Moydow

With 8 players alive it takes 5 players to Lynch.

Deadline is Sunday, August 12th at 2:30 PM EST
 

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Yeah and your reasoning is terrible.

It’s because I went on you and thought Ura claimed Indy, despite bardull and Shish saying the same and agreeing no one batted at eye. Why so selective for a Mislynch?
My reasoning is "terrible"? I've been explaining how YOU'VE been misreading my posts. You have constantly said I was fine lynching two townies and I was trying to get a lynch just to get a lynch, when, I flat out said, before the post you call GROSS, that I didn't want to get a lynch just to lynch, and I felt lynching Ura would be that.

Even now, you're trying to ASSUME my reasoning for being suspicious of you, DESPITE other players sharing the same mindset that you are not defending what you say. I've long since moved on about the Indy Ura stuff, I found it weird, but I don't even recall mentioning it past the Role PMs I sent you.

This is a blatant attempt to throw dirt at a townie, and THIS is a "gross post."
 
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