Fire Emblem 7 Mafia Poisoned Mutton Edition - Mafia Wins.

[Ura]

Exactly, that's why I'm suspicious of him lol.

It's not exactly out of place though, he pointed out that same post right after I made it D1 so I'm not sure how it creates a link between us?

I know but it came off being "fluff" as Barney likes to say it. Super duper generic answer that everyone knew about. And also kinda awkward.

You could pull any three people, they'd all likely have different voting patterns, you had a wagon of 5 and Shadow had a wagon of 4, it wouldn't be that hard. I didn't vote, Red voted you, and Joja voted Shadow.

In theory that's true. But the different voting pattern was just part of the chain I linked together. And it just so happened one wanted me gone, one having no vote, and the other pursing Shadow. Something I made note of.

IDK how you got this, considering how we've been at odds with each other. Shish has been seeing me as less town by the minute.

That was my initial impression of you two. And I had every reason to believe that given how close you were Day 1. Only now i'm suspecting that this might not be the case.

I think you're like the only one suspicious of Joja, I'd have to reread the thread but he was only voted once toDay I think and it was only an RNG vote by Shish.

I made the link after seeing how sketchy his post was out of the limited posts he made. Granted the way you and him so casually gave your thoughts about each other being Town. And of course the suspect list which I still believe is a sticking point. Also, him being irrelevant and out of the picture is what a potential scum would want. No one drawing any conclusions based on him. Something I used to my advantage in Villains Mafia.

So i'm gonna test this link and see if the walls close in on Mafia...

Vote: Red Ryu

In the event of a Ryu scum flip, I think "following the breadcrumbs" as one Vaanrose put it out would become a much easier task. And also easier for a potential cop/tracker role (hopefully it still exists) to narrow down the search of who to check/track.

 

[Pokechu]

That's not why I tracked you, I tracked you because Nabe was suspicious of you and pointed out how you reacted to Ura panicking to that one vote by Holder but then immediately slipped into reading him as Town, along with some other odd interactions that I've forgotten. You claiming bulletproof when Surtr already was is also another major reason why (along with you claiming Sheena, a green armor, Surtr is also a green armor).

oh I see what you mean now, you bussed Shiny but you still got tracked

to be fair, almost NO ONE was defending Shiny, I think only Barney was LOL

so regardless of the bus or not you would have been tracked because of all of these reasons

 

[Pokechu]

I know but it came off being "fluff" as Barney likes to say it. Super duper generic answer that everyone knew about. And also kinda awkward.

In theory that's true. But the different voting pattern was just part of the chain I linked together. And it just so happened one wanted me gone, one having no vote, and the other pursing Shadow. Something I made note of.

That was my initial impression of you two. And I had every reason to believe that given how close you were Day 1. Only now i'm suspecting that this might not be the case.

I made the link after seeing how sketchy his post was out of the limited posts he made. Granted the way you and him so casually gave your thoughts about each other being Town. And of course the suspect list which I still believe is a sticking point. Also, him being irrelevant and out of the picture is what a potential scum would want. No one drawing any conclusions based on him. Something I used to my advantage in Villains Mafia.

So i'm gonna test this link and see if the walls close in on Mafia...

Vote: Red Ryu

In the event of a Ryu scum flip, I think "following the breadcrumbs" as one Vaanrose put it out would become a much easier task. And also easier for a potential cop/tracker role (hopefully it still exists) to narrow down the search of who to check/track.

Ohhhh, okay, I understand your view now, at first in your last post I wasn't sure how you came to some things but hearing the context of your judgments puts it into place. Ty for expanding on them!!

I've been sketch of Ryu but I'll wait and see what others think before I put any vote down. I don't want to seem opportunistic and we're only two views on the matter after all.

 

[Ura]

Ohhhh, okay, I understand your view now, at first in your last post I wasn't sure how you came to some things but hearing the context of your judgments puts it into place. Ty for expanding on them!!

I've been sketch of Ryu but I'll wait and see what others think before I put any vote down. I don't want to seem opportunistic and we're only two views on the matter after all.

Yeah that's the gist of it dude. I believe we're on the cusp of bagging a Mafioso and if things fall in to place, Town can end this game withing a few more phases.

A gambit maybe but the way we're going right now is really slow and a jumbled mess. I figured this could be our "big lead" so to speak.

 

[Ura]

withing

 

[BarDulL]

Opossum , before Shish gambited you, how were you reading him?

 

[BarDulL]

I'm fine with the lynch being between Stoopid and Ryu today if that's what it comes down to.

Ryu is mostly null to me. I can see how people are reading him the way they are. At the same time, I've seen his erratic gameplay in previous games, which is mostly why I've been hesitant to approach him.

I'd really need to reread all the connections that were made prior to making a decision between the two (I am leaning Stoopid still).

 

[BarDulL]

I hope Golden isn't Town. It would be really lame if Golden turned out to be Town, then this game would basically be super silly alongside Spak's removal

Mmkay will be back tomorrow.

 

[Opossum]

Opossum , before Shish gambited you, how were you reading him?

On the fence, but leaning town.

 

[Ura]

I hope Golden isn't Town. It would be really lame if Golden turned out to be Town, then this game would basically be super silly alongside Spak's removal

Mmkay will be back tomorrow.

Golden isn't playing this game tho?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

??? How am I distancing myself from the lynch if how I look changes depending on his flip??? Wouldn't distancing just be... refusing to speak on it at all, other than "idk he's null maybe???"

With Shadow, it is true that it likely won't give us a result we want. He's likely town. I might be wrong as I don't have his Role PM LOL but we know for sure he's not a PR town or a PR mafia, that's why I think he's likely town. I don't see how it's anywhere near being too confident. It's just by chance, since there's only 3 mafia roles (4 too much, 2 too little).

Although, plot twist? He's mafia and that's the only reason he hasn't been hostkilled. LOL He wouldn't be a bad lynch today now that I think about this possibility tbh


Town
Opo
Shish
Ura, duh lol
Moydow
Kon
Joja
Shadow

Null
Stoopid

Mafia
Red Ryu
Barney

I'm suspicious of Red Ryu because during D1, he wanted to push a lynch, and not just a lynch, a quicklynch, onto Spak. Perhaps he's played with Spak before and could tell he was a PR. Either way it was unnecessary and if I'm recalling correctly, he didn't provide any reasoning at all. He just wanted a lynch on Spak. Not only that, I feel his case on me me is a bit bare bones? I explained my side, and he's said repeatedly since then "still OK with lynching him". Yeah, someone can read me as mafia, that's not the point, it's just that he's using that one post against me, that's his whole case. If you have a series of observations like "in post 1 he said this but in post 2 he said this and they dont match", that's great, slam dunk me please, but the case he's trying to push is a little empty imo. Others have done arguably more sketch things, yet to my knowledge he isn't saying he's fine with lynching them (I think he's only mentioned Shadow specifically? for his inactivity), and no one else seems to be worried about the post Red Ryu is.

I'm suspicious of you because it wasn't until I started bringing attention to your vote and after the confirmed townie (Ura) started thinking I was sketch, that you became vocal with your suspicions of me. It paints to me that you're making it look like it's the confirmed townie's idea, and not yours. I find it strange that you asked for my reads and then slammed me on all of them, stating that it's eerie to read Moy and Kon as town despite me putting very valid reasoning, that Kon is in character with the two games I've played with him and that Moy is a newcomer. What, did you want me to say "I find all three null!" and that's it? Because that wouldn't be any better. And I still find your 180 on Opo to be a bit quick, as you provided reasoning aside from the Neapolitan.

You realize I was joking about Spak right?

He liked my posts and knew I was joking.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

How about a round of Cop, Protect, Kill?

To make things more interesting, you're NOT allowed to put Ura as Protect because it'd be too easy of a choice.

Cop: Red Ryu
- Dude's done some shady stuff, to the point where many of us suspect him or are otherwise really wary of him. If there's still a cop here, checking him should be something to consider.

Protect: Don't wanna say this because I don't want to be branded as an "***-kisser" again, though it's obviously gonna be anyone but Ryu or Dull.

Kill: Dull
- Using work as an excuse to lynch me specifically despite everything regarding this feels like he's just adding "fluff" to incriminate me. If he's not scum, he's not paying attention, but he's a DGames mod, so shouldn't he actually pay attention to the stuff we write to make sure we don't break the rules?

Can you tell me what I did gay was shady in your own words?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

F auto correct, can you tell me what I did that was shady in your own words?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

F auto correct, can you tell me what I did that was shady in your own words?

The whle Ura thing is pretty sketchy.

Voting him because "lol indy" when he's said his win condition was that of a townie's is definitely weird.

Yes, the wording wasn't impeccable, but many figured out it was a townie wincon right off the bat.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Golden is likely getting modkilled or replaced so will focus on the main cast with thoughts on direction.

 

[Ura]

Seriously who are you guys referring to with Golden?

 

[Deleted member]

I'm on Red Ryu, saying "I win if Town wins even if I die" made me bekieve he was claiming 3rd Party too until I realized that's how it's actually worded in the PMs lol

Can you tell me what I did gay

You and Spak dating.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

right so since my name is coming up because of bad wording in Ura’s part.


2. Pokechu - I still think this slot is scum. Pokechu is puttting a lot of emphasis to not stick his head out for worry of looking scummy or drawing attention to his actions. I don’t like the non challant way he approached a potential TvT situation by saying, let’s lynch then anyways to get a lynch.

3. @Shishœ - town, this slot is doing a lot of behavior that is generating content. I find the methods and him getting in over his head day 1 not really to be scummy.

4. Opossum - town lean, genuine reaction

5. Ura - town in tunnel mode. He’s town due to the mod error I would say. He’s needs to stop with the tunnel as he’s not even trying to read anything or think anything outside of me being scum. Maybe he’ll listen and think of I flip town. I have no idea wh he thinks me and chu are together.)

6. @Jojalole - this slot is too inactive for me to gauge much on. This is one of two l slots I want copped. I would be A-ok adding this slot to the lynch pile.

7. @LoneKonWolf - I can’t make any call on this slot. I get the idea of posting when you got something to say but it feels really non commital so I can’t make any judgement calls outside of a cop result.

8. BarDulL I want to put bardull into the town area but nothing screams out to me from seeing him as, yeah that’s seems like he’s my town buddy. He’s fine for now.

9. @ShadowTheHedgehogZ - he’ll be modkilled.

10. #HBC | Red Ryu -

11. @Moydow - feeling a little bit better but i’m not really sold on this slot being town. Some insight has helped me get an idea where their head is at but not much else.

12. The Stoopid Unikorn - still have not reread. Wanted to check on conditions with what Bardull said but as of right now I’m not sold on this direction.


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[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Finishing Oppo, whoops posted to early, believe the reaction to the gambit just not in a he’s defintely town vibe

 

[Pokechu]

Pokechu is puttting a lot of emphasis to not stick his head out for worry of looking scummy or drawing attention to his actions.

How exactly? I'm probably the most active player, if I didn't want attention then I'd just shut up and post only when tagged, like half the game is doing right now. If I didn't want to stick my head out then why would I stand up in defense of Uni D1, go against Shish D1, and go against Barney now?

I don’t like the non challant way he approached a potential TvT situation by saying, let’s lynch then anyways to get a lynch.

That's.... not at all what I said lol

Even one of Uni/Shish would be better to lynch because we could go back through their argument, even if it is TvT. I wouldn't be surprised if both are townies but I still think it'd be a better choice than lynching Ura.

Sorry Ura, there's a reason I haven't placed my vote on you. You seem fine in my book.

I said "even one of them", so not both. Also, "even", so implying that it still wouldn't be a "good" lynch. I chose those two because with their flip we could gain insight on their intentions, and at the time I thought that Ura wasn't very active so, as I said earlier, imo if we lynched Ura we would

be lynching just to lynch.

Compared to Uni/Shish who were relatively involved during D1.

Yes, I said, "I wouldn't be surprised if both are townies", because the chances are relatively likely. I also stated that Ura seemed fine in my book, meaning that I was reading Ura better than them, and that's why I was hesitant with Ura's lynching. I was only being turned off Ura due to the convenience of the lie detect and by how he was posting.

 

[Pokechu]

I'm probably the most active player

to clarify

I'm actually the most active, this post now is my 156th, I think the second most active is Ura with 154 posts, and the third most active is Shish with 124 posts.

Activity doesn't mean scum or not obviously, duh, but if I didn't want attention then I wouldn't be anywhere near this active, especially when half the game has like a number of posts you could count on your digits.

 

[BarDulL]

Golden isn't playing this game tho?

I was sooo tired that I posted Golden instead of Shadow. I think it’s also because Shadow has Golden characters in his avatar.

 

[Ura]

5. Ura - town in tunnel mode. He’s town due to the mod error I would say. He’s needs to stop with the tunnel as he’s not even trying to read anything or think anything outside of me being scum. Maybe he’ll listen and think of I flip town. I have no idea wh he thinks me and chu are together.)

Did you read my post? I was linking who I suspected Mafia to be and I outlined why I believed that to be the case. It's not out there to believe that two Mafioso could be "at it" with each other as a show for Town.

Whatever the case might be, I have a very good feeling either you or Chu is scum and we're going to find out soon. If it's you being lynched, Chu needs to be tracked/coped. If it's Chu being lynched, then it's you that needs to be tracked/coped.

From that point on, the walls close in on Mafia. That's how I see it.

I was sooo tired that I posted Golden instead of Shadow. I think it’s also because Shadow has Golden characters in his avatar.

Well kinda lol. Golden is a Shadow supporter so I guess one could come to that conclusion haha.

Y'all made me think Golden was in the game for a second.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Did you read my post? I was linking who I suspected Mafia to be and I outlined why I believed that to be the case. It's not out there to believe that two Mafioso could be "at it" with each other as a show for Town.

Whatever the case might be, I have a very good feeling either you or Chu is scum and we're going to find out soon. If it's you being lynched, Chu needs to be tracked/coped. If it's Chu being lynched, then it's you that needs to be tracked/coped.

From that point on, the walls close in on Mafia. That's how I see it.

Well kinda lol. Golden is a Shadow supporter so I guess one could come to that conclusion haha.

Y'all made me think Golden was in the game for a second.

Your post was terrible, in what way do our interactions look like SvS? You think we are faking this back and forth?

 

[Ura]

Your post was terrible, in what way do our interactions look like SvS? You think we are faking this back and forth?

Well yes, quite frankly I do. It's actually a clever way to keep distance from yourself and avoid suspicion. And that was only one of the reasons why I linked you, Chu, and Joja together.

But like I said, i'm almost 100% certain either you or Chu is Mafia if not the both of you.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Well yes, quite frankly I do. It's actually a clever way to keep distance from yourself and avoid suspicion. And that was only one of the reasons why I linked you, Chu, and Joja together.

But like I said, i'm almost 100% certain either you or Chu is Mafia if not the both of you.

Do you think I can at him calling his gross post out Day 1 and have been gunning for him is SvS. How is it a clever rouse? Can you quote the interaction that shows this?

You are jumping this gun on this by a long shot.

 

[Ura]

Do you think I can at him calling his gross post out Day 1 and have been gunning for him is SvS. How is it a clever rouse? Can you quote the interaction that shows this?

You are jumping this gun on this by a long shot.

The thing is there wouldn't be any "interaction" to show this. I'm making this observation based on the way you two have interacted so far and the voting patterns that I linked. I already acknowledged this is a gambit but on the other hand I know that i'm on the cusp of bagging Mafia with you guys.

With that said, it is a long shot as you mentioned and I don't want to be authoritarian and lead a mob against you Ryu. I was in the same position and I would be a hypocrite to have the same thing done against someone else. So i'll be taking my vote off you for the time being but just know that you're one of my prime suspects.

Unvote

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Does anyone have quoted examples of where uni votes wierd i’m Trying to find his vote on Ura and how he voted today for example.

 

[BarDulL]

Inb4 chain saw defense of Ryu:

Pokechu I feel like no emotion from your posts. Normally they’re a bit more vibrant and pronounced. I feel like you’re invested but not quite fully, maybe, if that makes sense?

I’m reminded of your Shish tear down wall, but you didn’t quite fully keep to that when I would normally expect you to. A lack of emojis and **** posts also has me concerned.

You basically look like this to me right now lmao:

https://linustechtips.com/main/uplo....com.jpg.2d5f9f7746bf825c581feb20a8738646.jpg

The Stoopid Unikorn Be honest with me. As scum, would you have reacted the way you did when you thought you were being pushed because you had work?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Unvote
Vote: Ura

Just doing this to add extra pressure.

Is this the vote? I don’t find this in itself to be really bad reading the context and timing.

 

[BarDulL]

Does anyone have quoted examples of where uni votes wierd i’m Trying to find his vote on Ura and how he voted today for example.

Uni voted for Ura right after I did on D1, D2 he voted for Opo after I did I think.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Uni voted for Ura right after I did on D1, D2 he voted for Opo after I did I think.

I’m more bothered by his day 2 than his day 1 stuff, but I really really think Pokechu needs to die.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

The Stoopid Unikorn The Stoopid Unikorn Be honest with me. As scum, would you have reacted the way you did when you thought you were being pushed because you had work?

I'd react that way regardless of which side I am because I brought it up after the last game and before this game, long before roles were handed out.

There was no way this could be a meta mindgame since I didn't know my side at the time.

 

[Pokechu]

How exactly? I'm probably the most active player, if I didn't want attention then I'd just shut up and post only when tagged, like half the game is doing right now. If I didn't want to stick my head out then why would I stand up in defense of Uni D1, go against Shish D1, and go against Barney now?

That's.... not at all what I said lol

I said "even one of them", so not both. Also, "even", so implying that it still wouldn't be a "good" lynch. I chose those two because with their flip we could gain insight on their intentions, and at the time I thought that Ura wasn't very active so, as I said earlier, imo if we lynched Ura we would

Compared to Uni/Shish who were relatively involved during D1.

Yes, I said, "I wouldn't be surprised if both are townies", because the chances are relatively likely. I also stated that Ura seemed fine in my book, meaning that I was reading Ura better than them, and that's why I was hesitant with Ura's lynching. I was only being turned off Ura due to the convenience of the lie detect and by how he was posting.

#HBC | Red Ryu

No response?

I really don't comprehend how you thought I was worried about looking scummy or drawing attention, and how I was just trying to lynch just to lynch when I said explicitly, like, right before the post that you call gross, that I didn't want to lynch just to lynch.

Pokechu Pokechu I feel like no emotion from your posts. Normally they’re a bit more vibrant and pronounced. I feel like you’re invested but not quite fully, maybe, if that makes sense?

I’m reminded of your Shish tear down wall, but you didn’t quite fully keep to that when I would normally expect you to. A lack of emojis and **** posts also has me concerned.

You basically look like this to me right now lmao:

https://linustechtips.com/main/uplo....com.jpg.2d5f9f7746bf825c581feb20a8738646.jpg

LOL that pic is hilarious, it does describe me tbh

I'm not finding this game fun to play when half the game doesn't even bother to show up and post, not even a post per day, and we have three days for each Day phase.

This game is really just... you, me, Shish, Ura, Uni, and Ryu. I've almost never talked to Ura and Ryu, the one guy I actually do ****post with, Uni, has work, and everyone's reading me as scum, so... LOL

 

[BarDulL]

There was no way this could be a meta mindgame since I didn't know my side at the time.

Wait.

You didn’t know your side at the time? What do you mean? You hadn’t checked your role pm yet or had you just forgotten?

 

[Pokechu]

I also didn't stick to the Shish wall because I agreed with what others were saying towards the end of the Day, that his abrasiveness didn't seem like scum.

I'm plenty invested though. Wouldn't be this active otherwise. Just not enjoying the game lol

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

How exactly? I'm probably the most active player, if I didn't want attention then I'd just shut up and post only when tagged, like half the game is doing right now. If I didn't want to stick my head out then why would I stand up in defense of Uni D1, go against Shish D1, and go against Barney now?

That's.... not at all what I said lol

I said "even one of them", so not both. Also, "even", so implying that it still wouldn't be a "good" lynch. I chose those two because with their flip we could gain insight on their intentions, and at the time I thought that Ura wasn't very active so, as I said earlier, imo if we lynched Ura we would

Compared to Uni/Shish who were relatively involved during D1.

Yes, I said, "I wouldn't be surprised if both are townies", because the chances are relatively likely. I also stated that Ura seemed fine in my book, meaning that I was reading Ura better than them, and that's why I was hesitant with Ura's lynching. I was only being turned off Ura due to the convenience of the lie detect and by how he was posting.

Being active doesn’t mean you aren’t showing signs that your intentions are not bad.

Example, I called out your complete acceptance of a TvT situation since you seems more interested in that than a shadow lynch. I don’t care if they would have given more info I carevthat you were perfectly A-Ok lynching someone you thought was town then trying to move past it with a hand wave of Info.

Or take this for example,

Ohhhh, okay, I understand your view now, at first in your last post I wasn't sure how you came to some things but hearing the context of your judgments puts it into place. Ty for expanding on them!!

I've been sketch of Ryu but I'll wait and see what others think before I put any vote down. I don't want to seem opportunistic and we're only two views on the matter after all.

You’re too afraid to stick your neck out and do anything, because you know it can make you look bad later. If you think I am scum, then vote for me already and get a wagon moving.

This is why I really think your play is scummy, because you aren’t interested in pushing a direction, you are more interested in your own self image. That a scum trait.

 

[Pokechu]

Wait.

You didn’t know your side at the time? What do you mean? You hadn’t checked your role pm yet or had you just forgotten?

I'm betting he's referring to how he said he would be swamped with work before the game, so before the roles were handed out; he didn't know his side at the time because of that.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Wait.

You didn’t know your side at the time? What do you mean? You hadn’t checked your role pm yet or had you just forgotten?

He warned the mod he would be work busy before the game started and before he signed up.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Wait.

You didn’t know your side at the time? What do you mean? You hadn’t checked your role pm yet or had you just forgotten?

I mean it was before roles were even given.

July 25th.

Gonna have to pass up on this one because my schedule is taking a lot more time than I thought it would now.

Would love to spectate though.

July 27th, two days later.

Just noticed how long the phases are.

Promote me to maybe. It could potentially be long enough to let me live and play at the same time.

July 28th, one day later.

Kon joined?

Willingly?

**** it, I'm tempting my chance.

I know I said I'd take a break, but 72 hours of daytime should be enough for me to manage my working time and my playing time without trouble.

Roles were given on the 30th, two days later, and the game formally began the next day on the 31st.

And I also said some stuff on the queue thread. Do I need to quote that too?