Fire Emblem 7 Mafia Poisoned Mutton Edition - Mafia Wins.

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

If you think me having a busy work schedule is a lie, you'd have to take into account that I've said this since nearly a whole week before day 1 even began.

 

[Pokechu]

Being active doesn’t mean you aren’t showing signs that your intentions are not bad.

I said exactly that in one of my posts now

Example, I called out your complete acceptance of a TvT situation since you seems more interested in that than a shadow lynch. I don’t care if they would have given more info I carevthat you were perfectly A-Ok lynching someone you thought was town then trying to move past it with a hand wave of Info.

I never even explicitly said "I read Uni and Shish as town!", I said that I wouldn't be surprised if they did flip town, since chances are in your favor to be town.

And I don't see how it was a handwave of info??? I said that Ura was acting fine, so lynching him wouldn't be worthwhile, even (so not "yo these guys are sketch", it's "im just not reading them as good") a lynch between Shish/Uni would be better, because I'm reading Ura better than them, and while I wasn't reading Shish/Uni explicitly as mafia, they would still give more information than Ura. So, no, I wasn't trying to lynch someone I thought was town.

You’re too afraid to stick your neck out and do anything, because you know it can make you look bad later. If you think I am scum, then vote for me already and get a wagon moving.

This is why I really think your play is scummy, because you aren’t interested in pushing a direction, you are more interested in your own self image. That a scum trait.

Well, yeah. Half the town thinks I'm scum so voting you after the confirmed townie does wouldn't be a good look, and I wasn't even only interested in my own self image, I also wanted to hear other people's thoughts and views on you, because Ura and I are only two views on the matter. I said exactly that towards the end of the post?? Don't see what you're getting at tbh

I'm always hesitant to vote anyways, and this is my fifteenth game, so...

 

[BarDulL]

The Stoopid Unikorn Again, I’m not saying you’re lying about work, or pushing you for work related reasons.

I was referring to your reaction on D2 when you got upset because you thought I was pushing you for work related reasons.

I’m trying to gauge whether or not that reaction can be considered an authentic town reaction, but I think it’s null.

 

[Pokechu]

Seriously who are you guys referring to with Golden?

This caught my attention too, I've been confused with who they were referring to with Golden, I find it strange and I think Ryu and Barney need to be a bit more observant as they're the only ones mistaking Shadow for Golden.

 

[BarDulL]

You were real hesitant to vote for me in like the last two games Pokechu.

Anyway, I’d really like to hear from more people on what they feel is their preferred route going into the end of the day.

 

[Pokechu]

You were real hesitant to vote for me in like the last two games Pokechu.

Fate 2?

I come up with a case with how you're mafia mates with Stoopid. I was wrong with you, right with Stoopid. Not to mention how I only voted you after you called me an idiot, which I took offense to since, while I did miss an obvious detail, the post was still full of connections and information.

FEH 2?

I have to essentially bully you into removing your vote on Stoopid, after he's claimed Wrys (so he's basically a confirmed townie), and after I tell you that your vote alone is worth six.

Yeah, definitely, nope, not just suspicious behavior from you. Not at all.

 

[Pokechu]

Even this game, I don't recall voting for you, despite still being suspect of you.

So.... your point is?

You're really trying to make me appear out of character when... I'm not.

 

[BarDulL]

This caught my attention too, I've been confused with who they were referring to with Golden, I find it strange and I think Ryu and Barney need to be a bit more observant as they're the only ones mistaking Shadow for Golden.

Weird post.

 

[Pokechu]

Weird post.

?

It's literally just an aside lol

If the truth is weird, so be it. But you two have been the only ones to mistake Shadow for Golden, and it's odd imho

 

[BarDulL]

Yeah, but it has no bearing on my alignment. Unless you think it’s a Freudian slip and that Golden is actually in the game, the true poison mastermind...

 

[Pokechu]

Yeah, but it has no bearing on my alignment. Unless you think it’s a Freudian slip and that Golden is actually in the game, the true poison mastermind...

Never said it's related to your alignment, but as another town player (e.g; if I wasn't Pokechu), I certainly wouldn't be compelled to follow what you're saying if you can't even refer to a player correctly (especially since before Ura pointed it out, that's not the only time you called him Golden).

It just seems odd to me, because you implied I wasn't fully invested in the game (despite being the most active), yet you're calling players the wrong name. :S

 

[Pokechu]

y'all don't think y'all are putting your eggs in one basket, either? I'm like the only person who most of y'all are confident to read as scum LOL

there's only like five hours left in this phase, too, right?

 

[Deleted member]

I'm with Bardull on this one but I still would rather lynch Uni because if he is Mafia, then him and Pokechu are definitely partners.

 

[Pokechu]

I still would rather lynch Uni because if he is Mafia, then him and Pokechu are definitely partners.

What makes you think this?

 

[BarDulL]

He has Golden characters in his avatar! I call shenanigans.

Maybe my silliness slips confirm myself and Shadow as not being scum together? Surely I’d remember my scummate’s name...right?

 

[Deleted member]

What makes you think this?

You defend each other, you agree with each other, you don't vote for each other. You have tmactivrly tried to shoot down an Uni lynch nultiple time throughout this Day and you don't even consider the possibility you night be defending scum.

 

[Pokechu]

He has Golden characters in his avatar! I call shenanigans.

Maybe my silliness slips confirm myself and Shadow as not being scum together? Surely I’d remember my scummate’s name...right?

Do we always refer to you by Black/White? lol

You've played with Golden in like four games, it's just strange how you're mistaking Shadow for him.

you're not wrong though, shadow can be town and you can be scum

You defend each other, you agree with each other, you don't vote for each other. You have tmactivrly tried to shoot down an Uni lynch nultiple time throughout this Day and you don't even consider the possibility you night be defending scum.

Uni's defended me? When? I'm also not sure what we agreed on aside from you being sketch D1 and us both being suspect of Barney at some point.

I don't want to lynch Uni because he has work and only signed up to play because of the longer Day phases. This isn't uncanny, this behavior isn't any different from any other games. I don't want to vote him when he could really be town and struggling to contribute. If he's scum then it'd become apparent once we find one of his buddies.

Your last part is incorrect, too, I have commented on Uni's sketchiness, but I don't want to make a jump on it until I get a better read of him.

 

[BarDulL]

Do we always refer to you by Black/White? lol

You've played with Golden in like four games, it's just strange how you're mistaking Shadow for him.

I think you're desperate and trying to turn attention away from yourself. You regurgitated like 3-4 times in a row that it's strange how I referred to him as Golden instead of Shadow when it's clear that it was a mistake and I already said as much. It just seems like a scummy and roundabout way to try to undermine my slot.

 

[Pokechu]

I think you're desperate and trying to turn attention away from yourself. You regurgitated like 3-4 times in a row that it's strange how I referred to him as Golden instead of Shadow when it's clear that it was a mistake and I already said as much. It just seems like a scummy and roundabout way to try to undermine my slot.

Nah. I'm just saying that it's not right for you to tell me you don't think I'm fully invested, and yet you mistake Shadow for Golden. I'm just telling you to try and be more observant before you make comments like that.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[BarDulL]

My problem with the trifecta of Unikorn, Red Ryu, and Pokechu:

Red Ryu and Pokechu are lenient towards Unikorn.

Pokechu dislikes Red Ryu

Unikorn dislikes Red Ryu

Red Ryu dislikes Pokechu.

Lynching Unikorn upon a scum flip makes Red Ryu and Pokechu look bad.

Lynching

Nah. I'm just saying that it's not right for you to tell me you don't think I'm fully invested, and yet you mistake Shadow for Golden. I'm just telling you to try and be more observant before you make comments like that.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean, you agreed that you're not fully invested emotionally in the game already, sooo...your point is null?

And you already suggested that you're bringing it up for this reason:

but as another town player (e.g; if I wasn't Pokechu), I certainly wouldn't be compelled to follow what you're saying if you can't even refer to a player correctly (especially since before Ura pointed it out, that's not the only time you called him Golden).

I think my point still stands, thank you very much. And me not remembering Shadow's name correctly =/= not invested in the game.

 

[Pokechu]

I mean, you agreed that you're not fully invested emotionally in the game already, sooo...your point is null?

I didn't say I wasn't invested? I said I wasn't having fun.

I think my point still stands, thank you very much. And me not remembering Shadow's name correctly =/= not invested in the game.

Why all the snarky comments? "thank you very much"

I think Town!Bard would've just snapped, in Fate 2 you called me an idiot and in FEH2 even Natz thought you were being abrasive.

And I'd think that if you can't remember the people playing then you aren't very invested.

 

[BarDulL]

What the heck? My notes somehow got saved as a draft in my response to Pokechu. I think I didn't notice them because of how slow Smashboards is loading lately.

I guess I'll formulate a larger reads post later including those notes.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

My problem with the trifecta of Unikorn, Red Ryu, and Pokechu:

Red Ryu and Pokechu are lenient towards Unikorn.

Pokechu dislikes Red Ryu

Unikorn dislikes Red Ryu

Red Ryu dislikes Pokechu.

Lynching Unikorn upon a scum flip makes Red Ryu and Pokechu look bad.

Lynching



I mean, you agreed that you're not fully invested emotionally in the game already, sooo...your point is null?

And you already suggested that you're bringing it up for this reason:



I think my point still stands, thank you very much. And me not remembering Shadow's name correctly =/= not invested in the game.

Ehh, not really I just don’t see what uni has done that is super scummy. I dislike how uni interacted with the day 2 stuff but day 1 I don’t really have an issue with uni.

At this point I want to get the ball rolling given the time frame left, join me on poke or I go on uni if that’s the only option we got for a solid direction.

 

[BarDulL]

LOL that pic is hilarious, it does describe me tbh

I'm not finding this game fun to play when half the game doesn't even bother to show up and post, not even a post per day, and we have three days for each Day phase.

This game is really just... you, me, Shish, Ura, Uni, and Ryu. I've almost never talked to Ura and Ryu, the one guy I actually do ****post with, Uni, has work, and everyone's reading me as scum, so... LOL

This post is a direct response to me implying that you agree you're not really as invested as you could be at least on an emotional level.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

What the heck? My notes somehow got saved as a draft in my response to Pokechu. I think I didn't notice them because of how slow Smashboards is loading lately.

I guess I'll formulate a larger reads post later including those notes.

A lot of hype around a smash direct tomorrow for ultimate.

I would expect the site to be spotty today and tomorrow.

 

[Pokechu]

This post is a direct response to me implying that you agree you're not really as invested as you could be at least on an emotional level.

I meant that in response to you not saying that I'm not ****posting or using emojis.

Since, I use those when I have fun. And I'm not having fun.

 

[BarDulL]

Moydow LoneKonWolf Jojalole

If you had to pick between Red Ryu, Unikorn, or Pokechu, who would you pick at this juncture?

 

[Moydow]

Went through and quickly reread the thread a bit. If I have to choose someone to lynch, I'd probably go for Red Ryu. I'll overlook him pushing to lynch Spak right from the off since that seems to have just been a joke, but beyond that I haven't really seen anything of substance from him. Just every so often he shows up, posts one or two lines, most of which are "this post is gross/slimy/terrible/etc", and disappears again. I've seen very little from him in the way of actually explaining why he feels that way about the posts in question, except for the single post where he went through and commented on each player in turn. He's also one of the members of the Ura wagon, and I'm certain we're going to find at least one, if not two mafia in there. This seems to me like a good lead to start with.

That he hasn't really done much to defend his points, except when pushed hard, suggests to me that he doesn't really have a point to defend; what he has provided isn't convincing to me. He's just raising a lot of questions for me, and I'm not seeing many answers to them.

 

[Moydow]

Moydow LoneKonWolf Jojalole

If you had to pick between Red Ryu, Unikorn, or Pokechu, who would you pick at this juncture?

Well, isn't this convenient timing? Clearly me and you are collaborating on something. :p

 

[Moydow]

You know what, I'm just going to put my money... uh, vote, where my keyboard is. Things are going slowly enough, time for some action around here.
Vote: Red Ryu

 

[Ura]

My vote is either Ryu or Chu as I mentioned before. Both of them haven't given me good vibes and that feeling has only increased. Especially after Ryu outlined his conditions for today's Lynch either being Chu or Uni as if to remove himself from the equation.
Also, since I'm pretty much on my way to the Graveyard after Night 2, I want to have one last TL:DR post outlining links to look out for in different Lynch scenarios. Hopefully within 2 hours or so.

 

[Ura]

Structural mishaps due to Smashboards lagging like crazy.

 

[Deleted member]

I really feel like lynching Ryu gets us nothing, and I don't get why you guys are reading him as scum. He's null at best for me and his MO seems to be consistent with FEH Mafia 2

 

[BarDulL]

Moydow

Could you give me a little more? Perhaps a quick opinion on Pokechu/Unikorn/rest of the roster?

 

[Ura]

I really feel like lynching Ryu gets us nothing, and I don't get why you guys are reading him as scum. He's null at best for me and his MO seems to be consistent with FEH Mafia 2

What would you suggest to be the alternative?

If Red Ryu isn't lynched, then he needs to get copped/tracked. I don't feel safe just giving him a slap on the wrist.

 

[Ura]

I think it would be hilarious AF if Shadow were to randomly show up before this phase ended lol.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Went through and quickly reread the thread a bit. If I have to choose someone to lynch, I'd probably go for Red Ryu. I'll overlook him pushing to lynch Spak right from the off since that seems to have just been a joke, but beyond that I haven't really seen anything of substance from him. Just every so often he shows up, posts one or two lines, most of which are "this post is gross/slimy/terrible/etc", and disappears again. I've seen very little from him in the way of actually explaining why he feels that way about the posts in question, except for the single post where he went through and commented on each player in turn. He's also one of the members of the Ura wagon, and I'm certain we're going to find at least one, if not two mafia in there. This seems to me like a good lead to start with.

That he hasn't really done much to defend his points, except when pushed hard, suggests to me that he doesn't really have a point to defend; what he has provided isn't convincing to me. He's just raising a lot of questions for me, and I'm not seeing many answers to them.

I explained a lot of this on my read list above and in my post back to PokeChu.

 

[Pokechu]

I really feel like lynching Ryu gets us nothing, and I don't get why you guys are reading him as scum. He's null at best for me and his MO seems to be consistent with FEH Mafia 2

He was killed N2 in FEH2 and I don't recall him posting that much there. I don't think we should compare that performance to this one. There's reason to suspect him though, I know I stated why I'm suspect of him earlier, and Moydow sums it up perfectly imo. I too feel like he isn't defending his reads.

He said I wasn't "sticking my head out", even though I have by defending Uni D1 and going up against Shish and Barney, and that I'm not sticking my head out out of worry of looking scummy or drawing attention, but I pointed out that I was literally the most active player, and I added on that "yeah, activity doesn't make you a town, but if I was so worried of attention I'd just be quiet like half the game is." All he said was "Being active doesn't mean your intentions aren't bad".... which is literally what I just said.

He's still only concerned about that ONE post I made, despite me explaining my view on it multiple times, and he's still saying I was "fine with lynching someone I thought was town", even though... that's not true.

He has stated that I'm too afraid to move my neck out and do anything, or push a direction, but once again... I defended Uni D1, and went up against you and Barney. I've done more than half of the game just by that. He even ignored the part he quoted from me (to Ura) where I said "we're only two views on the matter after all". That's not being "afraid to do anything", that's questioning whether or not other townies share the same sentiment. I've countered his latest post towards me, but he has not bothered responding.

As for connections if we lynch Ryu, we can see his intentions on his position with me, his relation to Uni, since he is one of the few who are okay with Uni (I realize I'm in that group, I'm not saying it's suspicious), and although he's already confirmed-town, his relation to Ura ("Indy wincon" may have been a way to keep Ura's wagon, instill fear in the town). There's also other interactions I'm probably missing, those are just the ones that come to mind first.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

My vote is either Ryu or Chu as I mentioned before. Both of them haven't given me good vibes and that feeling has only increased. Especially after Ryu outlined his conditions for today's Lynch either being Chu or Uni as if to remove himself from the equation.
Also, since I'm pretty much on my way to the Graveyard after Night 2, I want to have one last TL:DR post outlining links to look out for in different Lynch scenarios. Hopefully within 2 hours or so.

Are you seriously suggesting it is scummy of me to not offer to lynch myself?

....are you serious?

 

[Ura]

Are you seriously suggesting it is scummy of me to not offer to lynch myself?

....are you serious?

No dude that's not what I meant.

People had you pegged as suspicious and then you brought up two alternatives as "either this or that" when clearly Town doesn't feel the same way. We're not asking you to vote yourself.