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Fire Emblem 7 Mafia Poisoned Mutton Edition - Mafia Wins.

#HBC | Red Ryu

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No dude that's not what I meant.

People had you pegged as suspicious and then you brought up two alternatives as "either this or that" when clearly Town doesn't feel the same way. We're not asking you to vote yourself.
Uhh no you literally said I was scummy for not putting myself in the pool, who would even remotely do that as town or scum.

“Hey town lets lynch me since I am in the pool”

Get out of your tunnel and think about the game in a bigger picture. I’m saying this for your sake.

Anyways i’m Voting Uni since Pokechu has zero traction and I need to ISO to actually get people to see what my issues with PokeChu on a bigger scale are.

Vote: Unikorn
 

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Seriously I mean this even if I get lynched today, get out of this tunnel mentality you aren’t even trying to listen to a thing i’m telling you or others.
 
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He was killed N2 in FEH2 and I don't recall him posting that much there. I don't think we should compare that performance to this one. There's reason to suspect him though, I know I stated why I'm suspect of him earlier, and Moydow sums it up perfectly imo. I too feel like he isn't defending his reads.

He said I wasn't "sticking my head out", even though I have by defending Uni D1 and going up against Shish and Barney, and that I'm not sticking my head out out of worry of looking scummy or drawing attention, but I pointed out that I was literally the most active player, and I added on that "yeah, activity doesn't make you a town, but if I was so worried of attention I'd just be quiet like half the game is." All he said was "Being active doesn't mean your intentions aren't bad".... which is literally what I just said.

He's still only concerned about that ONE post I made, despite me explaining my view on it multiple times, and he's still saying I was "fine with lynching someone I thought was town", even though... that's not true.

He has stated that I'm too afraid to move my neck out and do anything, or push a direction, but once again... I defended Uni D1, and went up against you and Barney. I've done more than half of the game just by that. He even ignored the part he quoted from me (to Ura) where I said "we're only two views on the matter after all". That's not being "afraid to do anything", that's questioning whether or not other townies share the same sentiment. I've countered his latest post towards me, but he has not bothered responding.

As for connections if we lynch Ryu, we can see his intentions on his position with me, his relation to Uni, since he is one of the few who are okay with Uni (I realize I'm in that group, I'm not saying it's suspicious), and although he's already confirmed-town, his relation to Ura ("Indy wincon" may have been a way to keep Ura's wagon, instill fear in the town). There's also other interactions I'm probably missing, those are just the ones that come to mind first.
Except he had plenty of time to show his MO during that game, which was the exact reason I had him killed.

Also, what he means by "not sticking your head out" is your lack of voting. You didn't vote for Ura and you didn't vote for anyone else you claimed to be suspicious.
 

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Uhh no you literally said I was scummy for not putting myself in the pool, who would even remotely do that as town or scum.

“Hey town lets lynch me since I am in the pool”

Get out of your tunnel and think about the game in a bigger picture. I’m saying this for your sake.
Especially after Ryu outlined his conditions for today's Lynch either being Chu or Uni as if to remove himself from the equation.
I mentioned your post was done in a way where you tried to insinuate only Uni and Chu were possible outcomes for lynching. Maybe that wasn't your intention but that didn't come across right.

Either way, I firmly believe your looking in to if your not today's lynch.
 

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I mentioned your post was done in a way where you tried to insinuate only Uni and Chu were possible outcomes for lynching. Maybe that wasn't your intention but that didn't come across right.

Either way, I firmly believe your looking in to if your not today's lynch.
Why would anyone want to be lynched as toen or scum outside of role shenanigans?
 

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If there's a Uni lynch and he flipped Town, IDK what conclusions we could make out it. Maybe a potential Scum! Opo seeing as he was at it with him. Shish maybe?

Of course if it's a Scum! flip, then Chu should be our first priority.
 

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Except he had plenty of time to show his MO during that game, which was the exact reason I had him killed.

Also, what he means by "not sticking your head out" is your lack of voting. You didn't vote for Ura and you didn't vote for anyone else you claimed to be suspicious.
Oh wait, I'm not sure I think MO means what you think it means, I'm probably wrong since I just inferred it, what does MO mean to be sure?

And I almost never vote anyways, so... IDK what to say about that lol. I only vote if it's a real backing, since I don't see a point in being like the only person to vote whoever. I already said I didn't vote Ura because I didn't find him sketch, I found the circumstances sketch, so IDK why that's being used against me
 

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Why would anyone want to be lynched as toen or scum outside of role shenanigans?
No one asked you to try and lynch yourself. You just bringing up Uni and Chu as the two alternatives for this phase didn't come across well that's all i'm saying.

And to answer your question, theoretically speaking someone voluntarily getting lynched would be a way for Town to get clues. I mean I honestly should have done that Day 1. Not asking for you to do that of course.
 

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Went through and quickly reread the thread a bit. If I have to choose someone to lynch, I'd probably go for Red Ryu. I'll overlook him pushing to lynch Spak right from the off since that seems to have just been a joke, but beyond that I haven't really seen anything of substance from him. Just every so often he shows up, posts one or two lines, most of which are "this post is gross/slimy/terrible/etc", and disappears again. I've seen very little from him in the way of actually explaining why he feels that way about the posts in question, except for the single post where he went through and commented on each player in turn. He's also one of the members of the Ura wagon, and I'm certain we're going to find at least one, if not two mafia in there. This seems to me like a good lead to start with.

That he hasn't really done much to defend his points, except when pushed hard, suggests to me that he doesn't really have a point to defend; what he has provided isn't convincing to me. He's just raising a lot of questions for me, and I'm not seeing many answers to them.
Can you give me or rather everyone a little bit more info on where your head is at? I get your vote on me but your head in terms of everything I don’t know much else where you are?

You and jolo more than me really have been worse than me for not showing a bigger picture of the cast.
 

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Except he had plenty of time to show his MO during that game, which was the exact reason I had him killed.

Also, what he means by "not sticking your head out" is your lack of voting. You didn't vote for Ura and you didn't vote for anyone else you claimed to be suspicious.
This guy gets it.
 

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No one asked you to try and lynch yourself. You just bringing up Uni and Chu as the two alternatives for this phase didn't come across well that's all i'm saying.

And to answer your question, theoretically speaking someone voluntarily getting lynched would be a way for Town to get clues. I mean I honestly should have done that Day 1. Not asking for you to do that of course.
I don’t even get what you are even talking about anymore, because I offered alternatives over myself that is scummy?

I’m not gonna bother anymore.
 
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Oh wait, I'm not sure I think MO means what you think it means, I'm probably wrong since I just inferred it, what does MO mean to be sure?

And I almost never vote anyways, so... IDK what to say about that lol. I only vote if it's a real backing, since I don't see a point in being like the only person to vote whoever. I already said I didn't vote Ura because I didn't find him sketch, I found the circumstances sketch, so IDK why that's being used against me
Modus Operandi

You should vote, everyone should vote. Towm has no benefit from not voting, the only ones who want to not vote are scum so they can't be held accountable for a Townie lynch, which is exactly what you are doing

Fire Emblemier Fire Emblemier can we get a votecount?
 

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I don’t even get what you are even talking about anymore, because I offered alternatives over myself that is scummy?

I’m not gonna bother anymore.
Bruh that's not what I was saying. I'm just saying pointing out an "either/or" scenario isn't the best idea for anyone, irrespective of alignment when they themselves are viewed as suspicious by Town. That's all i'm saying.
 

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You should vote, everyone should vote. Towm has no benefit from not voting, the only ones who want to not vote are scum so they can't be held accountable for a Townie lynch, which is exactly what you are doing
Okay, this makes sense. Throughout all the games I've played I don't recall anyone really saying why it's that bad to vote so I just haven't (aside from when I'm REAL confident or like later phases like LyLo). I've always just preferred advocating for a lynch since I obviously couldn't hide behind "I didn't vote!!!" because I still pushed it, lol.

Vote: Red Ryu
 

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Okay, this makes sense. Throughout all the games I've played I don't recall anyone really saying why it's that bad to vote so I just haven't (aside from when I'm REAL confident or like later phases like LyLo). I've always just preferred advocating for a lynch since I obviously couldn't hide behind "I didn't vote!!!" because I still pushed it, lol.

Vote: Red Ryu
EBWOP: why it's that bad to not vote, so I just haven't voted much***
 

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Moydow Moydow

Could you give me a little more? Perhaps a quick opinion on Pokechu/Unikorn/rest of the roster?
Going to be real quick since Bad Gatewayboards is conspiring against me and I'm not sure the site will last to the end of the Day at this rate, but:

- Uni definitely has more than enough reasons for us to suspect him. I believe him when he says his performance is hindered by his heavy work schedule, but that doesn't explain things like his blasé responses to being accused throughout the game. Other people have summed this up and I largely agree with them, Uni's work schedule notwithstanding; I think if we lynch Ryu and he comes up clean, Uni right now appears to be a logical follow-up target, to me.

- I was okay with Pokechu at first, but as the phase has gone on I've soured on them somewhat. I still lean slightly more town than mafia, as he's one of the most active people in the game and I find it hard to see why a mafioso would want that amount of attention unless they were really confident of their ability to pass themselves off as clean. Of which Pokechu may or may not be, I don't know. I can somewhat get where Ryu is going with Chu's reticence to actually vote for anyone, but perhaps that really is just their style? Reluctance to vote certainly raises questions, though. I'm guilty of this myself on day one, too, but at least now that I'm starting to figure the game out I've fixed that for this round. :p

I still favour Ryu as the lynch target right now, though.

If the site isn't on fire tomorrow, I'll go over the thread again and compile some more thoughts on the rest of the players. Kind of hard to do anything when the site crashes every other time I try to load a page. :p
 

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Okay, I got curious and I can see with a little metagaming why Uni is real sketch, throughout the past five hours he's made like 13 posts in the RP thread but only the one post in this thread he's made now. If he's active on other parts of the forum then I don't see why he isn't contributing to the game as much as he could be.
 

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Okay, I got curious and I can see with a little metagaming why Uni is real sketch, throughout the past five hours he's made like 13 posts in the RP thread but only the one post in this thread he's made now. If he's active on other parts of the forum then I don't see why he isn't contributing to the game as much as he could be.
I say this because I know when the topic around Uni's Ura vote came up earlier toDay, the RP thread and him posting in it was mentioned but I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt then. But now, I'm not so sure, since a handful of us have told him to be more consistent, I recall.
 
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Man, if Pokechu and Uni are both scum, it's gonna be funny that I pushed the right guy on Day 1 but he and his partner made me back off from it.
 

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Okay one last TL:DR before Mafia sends me to the Shadow Realm Night 2...

It seems people have been drawing their own conclusions left and right and it isn't really beneficial for the good of Town. So before I head off to the graveyard, I want to make a few "links" so to speak that would help us be able to narrow down the search of Mafia in the event of different lynches.

First off, if we do end up lynching Uni and he turns Mafia, we need to have a good look at Chu first and foremost. Being the user who was the least concerned about Uni where as almost everyone had him branded as somewhat suspect. And of course as I mentioned before, a Town! Uni would necessitate having a look at Opo seeing as they were at it early this phase. Gotta admit I don't have much a vibe on Opo either. I thought his reactions were genuine as most of you guys did but I also know that Opo is hard to read in most cases.

In the event of a Chu lynch and a scum flip, I think it would be easier to explore the Joja link I made earlier some pages ago. Of course that might not be the most indicative piece of evidence but we could be on the cusp of getting something doing that. We could get linked to Joja, Uni, and maybe others. Town! Chu would be really confusing because it would be hard to narrow down the search aside from the obvious answer of Ryu (and I guess Shish maybe). I feel that Chu's lynch could give us a lot of clues as to who's pulling wool over our eyes and going unnoticed for so long. The search becomes much narrow.

And of course in the event of a Ryu scum flip, Chu still needs to be checked but I also think Bar is looking in to. Given that he saw eye to eye with Ryu on a lot of things like the indy claim thing which was discussed in this phase. I gotta admit it was really hard to read Bar this phase so I don't know what to make out of him other than "probably Town". The link is worth looking in to. Ryu flipping Town would make me feel like crap personally because i've been the driving factor for him being looked as suspicious. But with that, we could track down the users who were pursuing his lynch that much easier.

Of course there's other variables we need to look in to like the inactive Moy, Kon, and Joja and they shouldn't be let off the hook because of their inactivity. Dunno how many PR roles are left for Town but please don't make yourself known and get the guys we need to have checked the most.

So...

With that being said, here's my final vote for the day...

Vote: Pokechu

I feel that out of all the possible scenario's I outlined, a scum flip from Chu can bring us that much closer to Mafia then a Scum! Ryu or even a Scum! Uni could. Of course, regardless of how Chu flips (granted if you guys are voting him and I honestly don't mind Ryu or Uni being the lynch instead), Ryu needs to be checked/tracked the following Night phase. It's very possible we could have a situation of Scum! Chu and Indy! Ryu. They're the most suspect in my eyes.

I also want to end this phase with some things to say about my own behavior/actions this phase. I'm really sorry that i've been a hindrance to Town this game and that my own self-serving BS has led us to the pickle we're in now. Spak might have lived if he didn't come to my rescue which, hindsight what it is I didn't deserve for how I played. He could have been so useful and I feel horrible that it was him that had to go. I'm sorry dude. And Shish/Chu, i'm sorry for my behavior towards the end of Day 1. As pissed/frustrated as I was there, I had no right to be acting the way I was there and I hope you guys can forgive me.

Regardless, there's lessons to be learned from this game. I have to be in it for Town VS being concerned with making it to the end of the game as i've been previously. Not to say i'm going to make myself the sacrificial lamb for every game I play of course but if there was a scenario like Day 1, I wouldn't be asking for a lie detector or any other ways to prove myself and having someone else be killed because of my self-serving actions.

So with that being said, i'm on my way to the Graveyard. Mafia gonna have a field day with me Night 2.

Godspeed Town!
 

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you know what

PLEASE vote me

I've already said I'm not having fun, so shoot, I'll help!!!!

Vote: Pokechu

CHU CHU TRAIN !!!!

my words? I'm still really sketch of Barney and Ryu, the third mafia could be Uni, I won't entirely discount him, but it could also be someone we haven't discussed much like Kon. Moy I really do feel like is town.
 

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my words? I'm still really sketch of Barney and Ryu, the third mafia could be Uni, I won't entirely discount him, but it could also be someone we haven't discussed much like Kon. Moy I really do feel like is town.
EBWOP: my last words***

ura is confirmed town obv.

still null on shish

joja IDK he just noped out this phase basically, he needs to post more but I still have a town read of him

I still feel like Uni is town because if he was mafia, I think he'd at least try to defend himself???? He knows that "oh i'm one of only three mafia" so I think he'd at least try something
 

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Opo I'm still reading as town for reasons I already stated

Shadow is still MIA lol
 

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i hope town can pull out a win, but with phases this long? the winning mafia strategy is to simply NOT play lol
 

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i hope town can pull out a win, but with phases this long? the winning mafia strategy is to simply NOT play lol
Yeah if it turned out that one of the inactives were Mafia then that would really make me not want to play these long kinds of games. Don't like how they drag forever.
 

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#HBC | Red Ryu #HBC | Red Ryu
@Shishœ

If you guys are really confident in me being scum, now's the time to put your vote where your keyboard is, as Moy said. I like that! :laugh:
 

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34 minutes left.... this Chu Chu train won't move with only two votes... RIP :(
 
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Nice try but asking me to change votes right now iz literally asking for a trainwreck. I'm not gomna condone a Red Ryu lynch and there isn't time for a Pokechu wagon to start
 

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Ladies and Gentleman, I welcome you to the very last minute of FE7 Poison Mutton Smashboards mafia!

Our current predicament involves trying to figure out just what the heck is going on!

Is it possible that mafia are just twiddling their thumbs and singing sweet tunes, or is one of these candidates actually scum?!

With 15 minutes to go, we're going to have to come to a conclusion.

Jojalole and LoneKonWolf have been missing the entire day phase, but haven't made a peep outside of their singular posts...poop!

Regardless, we must make a decision! It seems the finale is coming...

Is it:

A. Stupid Unikorn
B. Pokechu
C. Red Ryu
D. None of them?!

Oh my goodness, what a tough call! If only we hadn't used up all of our lifelines! This is really coming down to the wire, folks.
 

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ughhhhhhhhhhhh eight minutes until day's end

do I keep my vote on myself or do I move back to Ryu
 

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i'll just keep it on myself, I still want to die after all lol
 

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Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh.

2 minutes to go, and I still need to vote.

Slather me in porkchops and gravy, this is hard.
 

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Vote: The Stoopid Unikorn

I want to believe in Ryu. I could be wrong about this. I don't even know what the vote count is. GL HF
 

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because I'm not having fun, I'm not enjoying my time playing this game. It might be anti-town for a town to just give up and ask for a lynch on them, but I'm likely to get lynched anyways so

IDK I guess I might differently after this phase, it's just tedious, hard, and cumbersome trying to play a mafia game when Days are 72 hours and half of the players don't bother showing up
 

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noooooooo RIP

the Chu Chu train has endedddddddd

day over I think?
 
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