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Final Smash Tier List

The Pope Of Pie

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I looked around and couldn't find any threads directly comparing final smashes.

This is my suggestion for a tier.
I know it is very general but i am leaving it open for everyone to discuss and decide.
Each level is in no particular order.

GOD
Fox/Falco/Wolf - Landmaster
Sonic - Super Sonic

TOP
Captain Olimar - End of Day
Mr. Game & Watch - Octopus
Wario - Warioman
Snake - Grenade Launcher
Captain Falcon - Blue Falcon
Luigi - Negative Zone
Ness/Lucas - PK Starstorm
Marth - Critical Hit
Ganondorf - Beast Ganon
Ike - Great Aether
Meta Knight - Galaxia Darkness

High

Yoshi - Super Dragon
Ice Climbers - Iceberg
Link/Toon Link - Triforce Slash
Samus - Zero Beam
Bowser - GigaBowser
Lucario - Aura Storm
Zelda/Sheik - Light Arrow
Pikachu - Volt Tackle
Pokemon Trainer - Triple Finish

MEDIUM

Diddy Kong - Rocket Barrel Barrage
Mario - Mario Finale
King Dedede - Waddle Dee Army
Pit - Paletuna's Army
Jigglypuff - Puff Up
R.O.B - Diffusion Beam

LOW

Zero Suit Samus - Power Suit Samus
Kirby - Cook Kirby
Peach - Peach Blossom
DK - Konga Beat


Changes will be made.


Fox and Co.'s Landmaster is strong. Compared to others it is fairly long. It's also incredibly hard to hide from it. Due to it's length it has the potential to rack up the KO's in the one sitting. :bee:

The Links' Slash has a high potential for a KO. Anything over 40% is usually gone. However you usually can only hit one person. :bee:

Olimars
's End of day is strong. As far as I'm aware you can't dodge the accumulating damage but the landing however is easy. A three KO max in a normal brawl. :bee:

Mr Game & Watch has probably the best Final smash. It lasts for ages and on small stages, there is nowhere to hide. If a good G&W gets the smash ball watch out. Unlimited KOs. :bee:

Samus wierdly doesn't seem to pawn with this move. It looks incredibly strong but the truth is , it kinda isn't. Just jump over her and your fine. But changing into ZSS could be a blessing or a curse, depending on how you see the two characters. 3 KO max. :ohwell:

Donkey Kong's final smash in my view is the worst. On nearly any stage it is dodged without effort. The pressing of the A button in time doesn't seem to help much. It's sad to see a pathetic character get an even worse final smash. unlimited max, but if your enemies wait in the little start platform, it's hard to get over 3. :mad:

Changes
Fox/Falco/Wolf and Sonic moved to god tier.
Marth up to top tier
Link/Toon Link down to High tier
Ike, Ganondorf & Meta Knight to Top Tier
Pokemon Trainer to high tier
R.O.B to medium tier
 

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Landmaster and Super Sonic are God tier.

This list is all wrong imo.
 

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Donkey Kong's final smash in my view is the worst. On nearly any stage it is dodge without effort. The pressing of the A button in time doesn't seem to help much. It's sad to see a pathetic character get an even worse final smash. unlimited max, but if your enemies wait in the little start platform, it's hard to get over 3. :mad:
Run, NAO

10screweds
 

Deathwish238

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agreed'd ^^^

if you know what your doing with landmaster and supersonic you can kill everybody easily. and toon/link final smash wtf!?!? get out of here that needs to be nerfed nasty i think your projectiles stun the person but wow one kill, and if you get lucky 2 (and 3 is VERY situational)

like sasukebowser said super sonic and landmaster for #1/2 tier

oh! and yeah lmao DK isn't pathetic lmfaoooooo!!
 

hippyman69

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how is great aether better than critical hit??? c hit kills everyone at 0%. kirby can survive a great aether easily at 0%. i dont agree with most of the stuff in this list. total bs
 

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Donkey Kong's final smash in my view is the worst. On nearly any stage it is dodge without effort. The pressing of the A button in time doesn't seem to help much. It's sad to see a pathetic character get an even worse final smash. unlimited max, but if your enemies wait in the little start platform, it's hard to get over 3. :mad:
seems like you have WAY too much to learn.
 

Tenki

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This thread screams nub.
come on, it's rating final smashes. what'd you expect?

I'm gonna go ahead and blanket statement, but the majority of casual players use smashballs, and most casual players don't meet anyone good with certain underused characters.

move to GD or lockb4flamz please.
 

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Warioman, Falco, and PK starstorm definatly should be anywhere excpt mid to low. Mote likely low.

But theres alot of things wrong. Landmaster and supsonic are in a class of thier own.
 

The Pope Of Pie

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how is great aether better than critical hit??? c hit kills everyone at 0%. kirby can survive a great aether easily at 0%. i dont agree with most of the stuff in this list. total bs
As i says above the levels were in no order

Landmaster and Super Sonic are God tier.

This list is all wrong imo.
Agreed. I was being general and am going to change it as input comes in.

As for DK, thats my opinion. I don't like him at all, but can see how people can. But i do find his FS terrible.
 

Sosuke

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I suggest you lower:
Game and Watch
Snake
Luigi
Ness/Lucas
Yoshi
Ice Climbers
Bowser
Lucario
Pikachu

And Raise:
R.O.B.
PT
Ganon
MK
Marth
Ike
 

Deathwish238

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well w/e i'll give you some credit for starting it off and people don't flame him SO much either! constructive criticism lmao even tho i got a little bit offended lol sorry bro but yeah at least u started this when nobody felt like writing all that.

but you should really listen to peoples suggestions and make changes accordingly =D
 

The Pope Of Pie

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I suggest you lower:
Game and Watch
Snake
Luigi
Ness/Lucas
Yoshi
Ice Climbers
Bowser
Lucario
Pikachu

And Raise:
R.O.B.
PT
Ganon
MK
Marth
Ike
I agree with the raising, will do. The drops we'll see. if everyone else agrees then yes.
this thread is soooooo pointless and needs to be in general brawl discussion

:newbie:
Yeah probably but i realised after i put it in and don't know how to move it.

Also if you could add reasons for moves that would be good.
 

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I will bite because it is 3 AM, I am bored, and the OP's list is horrendously slathered in n00b - which means of course we must all point and laugh.

*points and laughs*

TOP
Sonic - Super Sonic
Fox/Falco - Landmaster
Wolf - Landmaster
Olimar - End of Day

HIGH
Ness/Lucas - PK Starstorm
Zelda/Sheik - Light Arrow
Snake - Grenade Launcher
Ganondorf - Beast Ganon
Marth - Critical Hit
Link/Toon Link - Triforce Slash
Ike - Great Aether

MID
Pit - Palutena's Army
Peach - Peach Blossum
Samus - Zero Beam
Lucario - Aura Storm
Bowser - Giga Bowser
Wario - Wario Man
Yoshi - Super Dragon
Diddy Kong - Rocket Barrel Barrage
Mario - Mario Finale
Pokemon Trainer - Triple Finish
Game & Watch - Octopus
Luigi - Negative Zone
Kirby - Cook Kirby
Pikachu - Volt Tackle
DK - Konga Beat

LOW
King Dedede - Waddle Dee Army
Ice Climbers - Iceberg
Captain Falcon - Blue Falcon
Meta Knight - Galaxia Darkness
Zero Suit Samus - Power Suit Samus
Jigglypuff - Puff Up
R.O.B - Diffusion Beam

This list IS in order; Super Sonic being the best FS in the game and Diffusion Beam being the worst. Besides ordering them correctly I added King Dedede's, Wolf's (it's shorter than Fox and Falco's), and Ganondorf's FSs and properly spelled "Palutena."

I did this list by thinking "I'd rather have THIS Final Smash rather than THAT one." Thus it is 100% perfect.

EDIT: Moved some stuff around.
 

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Donkey Kong's final smash in my view is the worst. On nearly any stage it is dodged without effort. The pressing of the A button in time doesn't seem to help much. It's sad to see a pathetic character get an even worse final smash. unlimited max, but if your enemies wait in the little start platform, it's hard to get over 3
Donkey Kong's final smash in my view is the worst. It's sad to see a pathetic character get an even worse final smash.
Donkey Kong a pathetic character
You're waiting to get flamed aren't you?

Back to the list, it's spelled 'Palutena', not 'Pale Tuna'.
 

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Apparently I'm tired enough to think I care right now, so here are the main changes you should make to that list:

- Olimar's FS kills no one. Try mid tier.
- Samus' is bad. Mid tier.
- PK starstorm is good but can be avoided so its not on par w/ supersonic or landmaster.
- Peach's can't be high tier.
- Mario finale is much better than zero beam. Should go high mid.
- Triple finish is bottom tier.
- Diddy's is top.
- DK is bottom.
- MK's is clearly worse than blue falcon. Less KO power, about the same area.
- Volt tackle's mid.
- Iceberg is mid.
 

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Apparently I'm tired enough to think I care right now, so here are the main changes you should make to that list:

- Olimar's FS kills no one. Try mid tier.
Does around 70%+ damage, inescapable, and large KOing explosion at the end.

- Samus' is bad. Mid tier.
It's a big laser. Not to sure about it...

- PK starstorm is good but can be avoided so its not on par w/ supersonic or landmaster.
That's why it's below them, and it's better than everything else really.

- Peach's can't be high tier.
I main Peach and it's pretty and this is also a tier list for Final Smashes.
It's also awesome - really.

- Mario finale is much better than zero beam. Should go high mid.
Does it kill? Looks kinda lame to me...
- Triple finish is bottom tier.
It's slow but it kills doesn't it?

- Diddy's is top.
I thought it should go higher.
- DK is bottom.
It's actually pretty decent. :/
- MK's is clearly worse than blue falcon. Less KO power, about the same area.
Agreed.
- Volt tackle's mid.
Hard manuverability and light KO power.

- Iceberg is mid.
It hurts the Ice Climbers movement a lot, but maybe higher.
 

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Whats with end of day and PK startorm being high?
They suck
End of day doesn't kill unless the guy being hit by the spaceship is an IDIOT.
PK startorm is EASY to dodge.
Meno,
There
Is
No
Way
In
Hell
Peaches is high tear.
(don't say its good because you main her -_-)
 

The Pope Of Pie

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I will bite because it is 3 AM, I am bored, and the OP's list is horrendously slathered in n00b - which means of course we must all point and laugh.

*points and laughs*

TOP
Sonic - Super Sonic
Olimar - End of Day
Fox/Falco - Landmaster
Wolf - Landmaster
Ness/Lucas - PK Starstorm
Samus - Zero Beam
Zelda/Sheik - Light Arrow

HIGH
Snake - Grenade Launcher
Ganondorf - Beast Ganon
Marth - Critical Hit
Link/Toon Link - Triforce Slash
Ike - Great Aether
Pit - Palutena's Army
Peach - Peach Blossum
Lucario - Aura Storm
Bowser - Giga Bowser
Wario - Wario Man
Yoshi - Super Dragon

MID
Pokemon Trainer - Triple Finish
Mario - Mario Finale
Game & Watch - Octopus
Diddy Kong - Rocket Barrel Barrage
Luigi - Negative Zone
DK - Konga Beat
Meta Knight - Galaxia Darkness
Kirby - Cook Kirby

LOW
Pikachu - Volt Tackle
King Dedede - Waddle Dee Army
Captain Falcon - Blue Falcon
Zero Suit Samus - Power Suit Samus
Ice Climbers - Iceberg
Jigglypuff - Puff Up
R.O.B - Diffusion Beam

This list IS in order; Super Sonic being the best FS in the game and Diffusion Beam being the worst. Besides ordering them correctly I added King Dedede's, Wolf's (it's shorter than Fox and Falco's), and Ganondorf's FSs and properly spelled "Palutena."

I did this list by thinking "I'd rather have THIS Final Smash rather than THAT one." Thus it is 100% perfect.
Yeah that does look a lot better than mine.
On the note of "palutena" i took the spelling from a different thread wwhich screwed up the spelling. I did think i lokked a bit wierd.
And Falcon's FS isn't that bad. I agree with demonstormkill. Bump it up.
And DK down one.
And Samus down one. It easily dodged and a low % person survives easily unless they're right in front of her.
 

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Whats with end of day and PK startorm being high?
They suck
End of day doesn't kill unless the guy being hit by the spaceship is an IDIOT.
PK startorm is EASY to dodge.
Meno,
There
Is
No
Way
In
Hell
Peaches is high tear.
(don't say its good because you main her -_-)
The match being played is a free-for-all (4 players) on Final Destination with items on. End of Day will kill - and amazingly. So will Starstorm. And if not both Olimar and the Mother children have solid KO ability - which is taken into account. See? Complete logic and tactical improvisation is taken fully into account when making this list.

And Peach's is now mid. Why? Because it goes there.
 

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You can spotdodge most of Olimar's End of Day FS until the rocket comes down, then its as simple as "gtfo that area" and if you know what your doing, it should never KO you, and rarely do more then 30-40% damage.

Rob's FS I don't believe is the worst either, DK is far more worse only because of how easily it is dodged. While you can actually move around with Rob's
 

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The match being played is a free-for-all (4 players) on Final Destination with items on. End of Day will kill - and amazingly. So will Starstorm. And if not both Olimar and the Mother children have solid KO ability - which is taken into account. See? Complete logic and tactical improvisation is taken fully into account when making this list.

And Peach's is now mid. Why? Because it goes there.
Where does it say the rules?
There need to be rules for this thread to continue any further.
 

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RULES:

#1. If you main said character, then said character's final smash in much higher than it should be.
#2. ZSS is automatically bottom for getting rid of the boobies.
#3. In case of fracture of rules 1 and 2, mindless flaming may ensue against the guilty party.
#4. LANDMASTAH!Instantly top
#5. ??????
#6. Profit!
 

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#7. MOAR LANDMASTAH
#8. ???
#9. Profit
#10. ???
#11. ?????
#12. LANDMASTAH!
 

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Triple Finish is useless. The fact that it zooms in before attacking tends to kill more people than the attack itself; everyone has a huge amount of time to react before it goes active.
 

PrinceMarthX

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Top Tier
----------------
Sonic

High Tier
----------------
Yoshi
Wario
Game & Watch
Snake
Diddy Kong
Luigi
Zelda/Sheik
Falco
Fox

Mid Tier
----------------
Wolf
Olimar
Ness
Lucas
Link
Toon Link
Captain Falcon
Ike
Marth
Donkey Kong (if used properly)
Pokemon Trainer
ROB
Samus
Ganondorf

Low Tier
----------------
King Dedede
Lucario
Jigglypuff
Kirby
Mario
Meta Knight
Pikachu
Bowser

Bottom Tier
----------------
Zero Suit Samus
Ice Climbers
Peach
Donkey Kong (if not used properly)
 

Shy Guy 86

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Falco's Landmaster is the best FS, since it lasts very long and can do easy kills by taking them off the screen.
I'm not sure about Fox and Wolf, though, I believe that Fox has the worst since it cannot fly much.
I'm gonna make the top tier only

Top:
Falco's Landmaster
Super Sonic
Wolf's Landmaster
Fox's Landmaster
Snake's Grenade Launcher(maybe)
 

PrinceMarthX

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Super Sonic is the best FS by a large margin because it's impossible to avoid if they stay ontop of you.

All Landmasters can be avoided. Repeatedly grabbing the ledge for invinciblity frames works well. You should NEVER lose more than 1 life to a FS. Be smart and stay on the floating platform as long as you can.

Wolf's landmaster is much worse than Fox or Falco's because it doesn't last nearly as long.

On some stages like Mushoomy Kingdom 1-2, the Landmaster is a complete joke.
 

Shy Guy 86

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Super Sonic is the best FS by a large margin because it's impossible to avoid if they stay ontop of you.

All Landmasters can be avoided. Repeatedly grabbing the ledge for invinciblity frames works well. You should NEVER lose more than 1 life to a FS. Be smart and stay on the floating platform as long as you can.

Wolf's landmaster is much worse than Fox or Falco's because it doesn't last nearly as long.

On some stages like Mushoomy Kingdom 1-2, the Landmaster is a complete joke.
Kirby's rock can avoid Sonic's FS to some extent, but its hard to get out of the rock and do it again.
 

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yeah and sometimes you can avoid the landmasters by going under the stage repeatedly (with certain characters of course)
 

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Maybe it's just me, but as much as I hate to admit it, PT's Final Smash sucks. Any time I use it even my opponent doesn't know where he is because the camera closes in on the characters at first and when you think you're aiming it properly your opponent is busy falling from the sky or landing behind you until it's done.
 
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