How many times do I have to ignore sentences like that until people stop thinking they mean anything?
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Final Fantasy Tactics Mafia: Game finally over! Raziek lynched, Town wins! Lego too!
- Thread starter Overswarm
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Not entirely sure Glyph isn't mafia. Much easier for indyRaz/indyKantrip to exist as well.
That's not to say Glyph isn't indy.
That's not to say Glyph isn't indy.
Kantrip
Kantplay
Who else is Rajam going to mimic? He shouldn't be on possible scum players, and you and Gova possibly don't have anything FOR him to mimic.
Otherwise all of town will be sitting on their *** this Night phase.
Otherwise all of town will be sitting on their *** this Night phase.
Kantrip
Kantplay
I mean, since mimic doesn't grab NKs picking Inferno is a safe guess no matter what, and then both me and Raziek are basically bricks for the subsequent Day/Night. And I am totally okay with that.
Me. Targeting you. I will decide whether or not to do anything with that knowledge.
That is why you are going to be protecting Gova.
Kantrip
Kantplay
You? Targeting me? With what, exactly? Are you banking on Glyph having some whacko scum ability that will be useful in our situation? As far as we know he has expended his Hellcry Punches (which means you won't be able to use it), and there's no reason he would lie about this so....
But yeah, being Stopped won't affect my ability to protect Gova, which I WILL be doing.
But yeah, being Stopped won't affect my ability to protect Gova, which I WILL be doing.
Why the HELL would I take Glyph's word on that? I don't want two voteblocks live, I've been through that. Why would you not want the off chance that I get something useful and can use it?
Kantrip
Kantplay
Sure that would be great if Glyph had something useful, but I don't want to bank on it.
What's wrong with two voteblocks if you know for sure that one's hitting town and one is hitting scum? When scum has such fewer numbers (like, on their own), it is a very good trade-off to guarantee yourself that.
What's wrong with two voteblocks if you know for sure that one's hitting town and one is hitting scum? When scum has such fewer numbers (like, on their own), it is a very good trade-off to guarantee yourself that.
Kantrip
Kantplay
And the roleblock for the next Night is gravy.
Because, if Raz is telling the truth, there's a roleblocker live. Should said roleblocker block one of Rajam/Inferno, then there is a scum vote live. If Inferno is scum, then we're DEPENDING on a scum vote.
Not an A+ plan.
Not an A+ plan.
Kantrip
Kantplay
He already said he lied about the roleblocked claim.
Kantrip
Kantplay
Which was done as part of his claim with his one-shot BP, claiming that he couldn't use the BP on the same Night that he uses his Observe ability, so he faked roleblocked for a while.
That helps to line up how he could get "roleblocked" through the protection: He didn't.
That helps to line up how he could get "roleblocked" through the protection: He didn't.
I see, does not address Inferno concern.
Why are you so DAMN set on unnecessary risks?
Why are you so DAMN set on unnecessary risks?
Personally, I'm perfectly fine with forcing a Night Kill or letting Raz have another night of investigations off on the chance that he's town.
Kantrip
Kantplay
The lynch is already narrowed down to Raziek/Kantrip either way, so "depending" on Inferno's vote is a null point as he has no reason not to go with the lynch regardless of his alignment or if we are voteblocked.
The same scenario: He doesn't voteblock Raziek. Raziek and me have our votes. We decide to lynch one of me/Raziek. Inferno's vote really doesn't matter, and he's going to go along with the lynches no matter what the circumstances.
Raziek WILL get investigations if he's town. I WILL get to use my protect. Stop doesn't roleblock on the Night it's used. The unnecessary risk would be NOT doing this, setting Raziek up to quicklynch me toMorrow.
The same scenario: He doesn't voteblock Raziek. Raziek and me have our votes. We decide to lynch one of me/Raziek. Inferno's vote really doesn't matter, and he's going to go along with the lynches no matter what the circumstances.
Raziek WILL get investigations if he's town. I WILL get to use my protect. Stop doesn't roleblock on the Night it's used. The unnecessary risk would be NOT doing this, setting Raziek up to quicklynch me toMorrow.
Kantrip
Kantplay
Like, what makes you think that Inferno would disobey the order to lynch someone other than him? There's no reason NOT to get him and Rajam to do this. It ensures that if Town chooses wrong in picking who to lynch toMorrow, the other person can't do anything in the Night.
Stop is next night? By all means, go ahead. I don't give a ****. Game should be over at that point.
Fair warning, I may roleblock Inferno if I inherit Hellcry. Unsure at the moment. Should be able to verify the rest via both built in roleblock alert mechanisms.
Fair warning, I may roleblock Inferno if I inherit Hellcry. Unsure at the moment. Should be able to verify the rest via both built in roleblock alert mechanisms.
Wait, let me math.
Kantrip
Kantplay
Oh okay you just missed the next Night thing. That makes sense, I was wondering why you were so opposed to the idea.
Kantrip
Kantplay
And then ninja'd. I've got to go to bed soon and won't be back before deadline. Good luck with your mathing.
**** it, I'll just be right and it won't matter. I'm digging through. Two scum coming up.
Kantrip
Kantplay
Okay, but can you remind Inferno and Rajam what they're doing before the decided lynch is hammered for me? Just in case, of course. There's a lot to sift through in these few pages and I'm not sure if they'll find it otherwise.
Good luck and good night.
Good luck and good night.
Okay, was working and realized I'd never make it. So gas station run has been made and I have two Cokes and a Five Hour Energy.
Back to the grind.
Back to the grind.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Can anyone NOT see that Kantrip is scrambling for any reason to be lynched before me?
Rajam did you the favor of looking through my D2 posts. I didn't just fabricate this on the stop.
Always have a plan. If you'd like to insinuate I'm a D4 Kantrip lyncher, I laugh at you.
Rajam did you the favor of looking through my D2 posts. I didn't just fabricate this on the stop.
Always have a plan. If you'd like to insinuate I'm a D4 Kantrip lyncher, I laugh at you.
It's not necessarily scrambling to be lynched second. I'm sure he'd rather not be lynched at all. I'm still working here. I've reread the game once. I finished it a while ago. I'm going again. I'll probably go a third time.
For fun, town Glyph puts Kantrip in a claim contradiction with both Glyph and Raz. I doubt that happens, but it's food for thought.
Really, REALLY hate both Glyph and Kantrip's night action choices. Really hate Raz's general life decisions here. Really hate Inferno in general.
So far, I feel that my current heading is the most solid choice of action.
For fun, town Glyph puts Kantrip in a claim contradiction with both Glyph and Raz. I doubt that happens, but it's food for thought.
Really, REALLY hate both Glyph and Kantrip's night action choices. Really hate Raz's general life decisions here. Really hate Inferno in general.
So far, I feel that my current heading is the most solid choice of action.
For those not paying attention:
Glyph -> Kantrip -> Raz/Inferno depending on Kantrip's flip.
Currently unsure on whether or not I want Inferno to use Stop on someone.
Glyph -> Kantrip -> Raz/Inferno depending on Kantrip's flip.
Currently unsure on whether or not I want Inferno to use Stop on someone.
Currently leaving my house so I'm not bothered by the plumber. Will be back online again at the coffee shop.
Leave any questions, comments, concerns and I will address them as soon as possible.
Raz, I why'd you have to make this so hard for me?
Leave any questions, comments, concerns and I will address them as soon as possible.
Raz, I why'd you have to make this so hard for me?
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Ryker, explain to me why Glyph had to die first when I saw Kantrip performing a night kill.
Either Kantrip dies or I do. I will not lynch Glyph without some very convincing reasoning.
Either Kantrip dies or I do. I will not lynch Glyph without some very convincing reasoning.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Has to die*
Inferno3044
Smash Master
I still don't understand. He isn't an immediate threat. You and kantrip are much more important to deal with then glyph.Ryker, explain to me why Glyph had to die first when I saw Kantrip performing a night kill.
Either Kantrip dies or I do. I will not lynch Glyph without some very convincing reasoning.
Rajam
Smash Champion
Gova, Kantrip, please work with me because sadly Ryker is entering into his stubborn mode and isn't seeing clearly anymore. There is bigger fish to fry than Glyph.
unvote
vote: Raziek
Ryker, consider stealing his ability
Sangfroid, vote Raziek once you come here
Rajam
Smash Champion
More relevant info. +1
Rajam
Smash Champion
To add on Raziek's lynch, it's important to note that at this point there is confirmed scum between Raziek and Kantrip, so we must know who is. Raziek's actions have been incredibly scummy and inconsistent so this is why he is going down first.
Inferno stops Glyph toNight.
Inferno stops Glyph toNight.
Rajam, you are so off base that it's ridiculous. More in a second.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
That's what I'm saying! Glyph isn't important right now.I still don't understand. He isn't an immediate threat. You and kantrip are much more important to deal with then glyph.
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That's a horrendous reach supporting the horrendous reach that Kantrip made playing off a sarcastic post from Gova.
Why MUST we know what it is? We have it, we know it, it's not going anywhere, we're not creeping on Lylo.
You say that Raz's actions have been incredibly scummy and inconsistent and I straight up call bull****. You are a liar. Raz's most recent action is LITERALLY the ONLY thing you can call him on whereas KANTRIP has been INCREDIBLY SCUMMY AND INCONSISTENT ALL GAME!!! Just like T-Block before him.
Rajam, I will not see you Lynch the wrong one in these two and then lynch Inferno like you've been trying to do for the entire game. I see what you're doing and no, just no. It's the wrong course of action and I will not support it.
Raz and Inferno, you will both be supporting a Glyph wagon or you will BOTH die. It's a simple as that. Raz, as town, this means you'll almost certainly lose. If you're scum, then I do not care. This is the alternative I'm offering you. Kantrip can sit and wait because we actually do have time. However, if I die tonight, which I may well depending on whether or not Glyph's ability took effect before I roleblocked him, then Rajam WILL push a lynch through on Inferno over Glyph which throw the game.
I. Do. Not. Want. To. Lose. This. Game.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Answer this question Ryker. Why does Glyph die before one of us?Ryker, explain to me why Glyph had to die first when I saw Kantrip performing a night kill.
Either Kantrip dies or I do. I will not lynch Glyph without some very convincing reasoning.
That's where you're wrong. I am MUCH more sure of Glyph being scum than either of you two bozos in a 50/50.That's what I'm saying! Glyph isn't important right now.
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