Final Fantasy IX Mafia | Game over! | Who won? :o

[Dad]

Nich is here right now. AM will show up and so will July. If it becomes apparent that a switch is impossible I'll switch but we still have 7 hours.

 

[Nicholas1024]

What time tonight is the deadline? If it's late at night I might have time for a full catch up, else I'll probably have to skim a little.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Deadline is in 7 hours.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

My vote is on TC. And, I made that post before he had made his response post. I find it amusing (and annoying) that you ISO that post alone, even in the link, and don't show that I was annoyed earlier because he had promised us stuff earlier but decided to put a different game over this one, and I had misunderstood and thought that he had said he was only going to answer things if people asked him then.

I wasn't ISO'ing that post, lol. I didn't want anyone reading my post to see what I quoted and think that they were two different posts. You obviously knew what post I was talking about, but to anyone else, I didn't want it to seem like I was editing your post to make it seem like you were saying something you weren't, and get blamed myself for that. Well, you did say it, but you know what I mean, haha. That link was for reference and nothing more. Wasn't making a case on you.

Also feel dumb that I didn't realize you were on the TC wagon, haha. So tired.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Well, for other people reading it it would just seem like I had gone off on Acro for no reason whatsoever when there were a few things leading up to that. But meh. I gotcha.

 

[traveling cat]

I just can't tell if Dad is that aggressive as a scum or if he's just that big of a ******* town to believe all the crap he spews. I know better than to think that I can still get a July when nobody has even bothered to throw a vote in support after so long. I stated in my last big post my thoughts on AM and why I chose not to switch to him. I also wasn't going to be taking advantage of the fact that he hasn't been around to push a bandwagon on him. With that in mind, the only option I can do now is help another lynch. J has looked townie to me, so I am going to help his lynch and I hadn't seen Acro do anything town to make me think it wrong. I haven't had the time to post more the past day than that last post, and I won't be able to post again before the deadline. If you want to lynch me, or truly believe Acro isn't scum go ahead and wagon me. It IS better than a NL. GL town. Be sure to Vig July tonight.

 

[Dad]

Don't give me that. You had 48 hours to continue your push while I've started yours from scratch in like 9. As for not bandgwagoning AM because he wasn't around to defend himself, pretty sure you bandwagoned Acrostic while he was not around to defend himself. Have you even read the interactions between Acro/Sang/Myself to judge whether Acro has done anything to change your read on him, or are you just agreeing with J because you think he's town? It's like Acro says, for all the arguing he has done to refute points people just overlook them (except Sang who has some brains).

And I'm not spewing crap, I've shown why you've been scummy and for all the stuff you tried to say about my attacks, you have nothing to say after I refuted them.

If you aren't able to post again until after the deadline and a wagon of you looks plausible I suggest you claim now.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Wow. 5 hours til deadline and we've had barely any posts lately.

@J. What do you think of Dad's push on you? What do you think of Dad in general.

@Dad. You never pointed out the scumslip in July's posts.

 

[Panta]

Ok. I am here. Got myh computer back so I am ready to play.

Will try to get you guys reads before deadline

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

@Acro. For today, who do you think your strongest scum pick will be? Who will you vote, and do you think that person could be scum?

@TC. I'd very much appreciate it if you started posting soon. Your latest posts, especially the last line, doesn't make me not want to lynch you. In fact, it makes me slightly more suspicious.

@Hilt. Are you solid in your read on TC, or are you waivering? If so, why?

@AM, Panta, JTB. Who, out of Acro and TC do you think is scummier?

@Tandora. Do you really think that Acro is scummy or are you just voting him to get a lynch? If the latter I'd appreciate you telling us who you would rather have lynched.

@Nich. I know you've been catching up lately but could you give us your latest reads on who you think is scum?

@July. I know you think Acro is scum, but what do you think of TC? Would you be willing to switch to her lynch?

 

[Dad]

Oh yeah that slipped my mind. Tbh I posted that kind of hastily after I thought I found something (I was excited) but after thinking about it and talking about it Soup we've both agreed it's more WIFOM than anything else and shouldn't factor into our read of her. The little inconsistencies are still there, though, like she has made up a few accusations that tcat didn't actually use and she has also been over-dramatizing some parts of the push. I agree with her that the push was bad in the first place and July's first counters seemed spot on, but recently the quality of them has deteriorated and really they're both just blowing up the argument much bigger than it needed to be.

I know they've both dropped the push recently but that was only after I commented that there simply wasn't enough incriminating content to hold an argument for that long.

And yeah wtf @ no one posting.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Try to catch up quickly Panta, please. After that, try to answer my recent question.

 

[Dad]

Panta you know I'm town and I know you're town. Do me a solid and vote tcat soon. We really need to hurry.

 

[Panta]

TC imo from my readings on iPhone. She looks like she is trying to be town and her posts seem forced.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

@Dad. Alrighty, thanks for clearing that up. It was very... over the top. I'm just wonderring if they were trying to make it seem like they disliked each other (as in made-up arguments) or if they legitimately disliked the arguments that the other made. I'm still not sure it was SvS. If they were both scum, wouldn't they not want to draw attention to themselves with an argument that big? And, July has stuck with her Acroscum thing. The thing I really dislike is that TC made those huge posts about July being scum and then votes Acro because nobody was following him with that even though there was still plenty of time til deadline to convince other people. But then July has pretty much dropped off the map. I don't like this.

 

[Dad]

Yeah, July is definitely a concern of mine but there are scummier people that I need to take care of first.

 

[Panta]

TC is the lynch for today then?

 

[Dad]

Yea h.

 

[#HBC | J]

No, Acro is. There are 4 votes on him over the 3 that are on TC who I think will be a ML. Sang will switch to Acro making it 5. Panta can put him at L-1. Then if Nich catches up, he can hammer him since he expressed opinon. Or Dad will hammer due to not wanting a NL.

Sang, Dad's just dumb but I have no time to go into why since other things but his most recent push at my "not-responding to him" shenanigan just reminded me why I dislike his smug play as a given.

Regardless, I can't do anything else because I'm now V/LA till late tonight and the same pretty much goes to Sang since she's coming over to chill/work.

 

[Dad]

J. You woke up this morning and posted in another game and then come in here tell me I'm dumb and say V/LA until after deadline. Not to mention you were posting till 4 in the morning in another game still.

You had plenty of time to do things if you had wanted to do them. You just didn't want to do them.

Tcat is the lynch. Acro is dumb.

 

[Dad]

Not to mention J, all you've been doing recently is making one liners about my credibility and trying to play up your relationship with Sang so she won't see reason. First it was me trying to bully her into doing what I want, now it's my smug/dumb play that is manipulating her.

You also speak directly to Sang hoping it will give you benefit while you continue to avoid addressing me because you know you can't win.

Stop spouting garbage.

 

[Dad]

EBWOP: Acro lynch* is dumb. And he's town but I'm sure J knows that already.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

@J. Tandora only voted for Acro because she doesn't want a NL. At least, that's the way it seems. If she does intend to come back, she might change her vote. I don't think Dad will vote Acro if his life depended on it.

 

[Dad]

No, I will. If he is at L-1 with no one else online at 5:59 PM EST I'll vote him.

Any lynch is better than a no lynch, even if that lynch is a town read.

 

[#HBC | J]

Dad's tunneling TC for tunneling July and has explained his J suspicion or his July suspicion or his Hilt suspicion or any of his Town reads that he keeps obtaining for whatever strong reason. He is defending Acro by saying the case on him is completely full of WIFOM and full of holes when it isn't to anyone but Dad. He hasn't explained why Acro isn't scum besides his constant insinuating that it is going to be a ML and that he has a town-read on him. He keeps begging on people to get in here due to time and to vote TC for his teency reasoning.

Does no one else see his flippant reads he is just throwing out to throw out at this point? He's bullying his way to a TC lynch by trying to make players seem like there is no other optinon besides her which is utter BS.

Sang, get your vote back onto Acro. Why are you not voting your strongest scum-read JUST BECAUSE Dad is telling you to do so?

God damn this game is hard with reading people because now I have to go back re-read and see if the tells I got off of Soupa are more to counter-balance the utter dummy that is the Kuzi side as of late. So that slot is Dummy or Scummy. Sang is leaning scum atm because of her willingness to just do as Dad says at the current time without following her strongest scum-read and if she were to actually look at the logistics of what is going on, Dad is wrong that it's TC or a NL. It's most likely Acro or a NL but he is keeping that guise up pretty damn well.

Town reads atm:
J
JTB
July
TC
Panta
Hilt

Null
Dad
Tanny
Nich

Scum
Sang
AM
Acro

Kuzi, I am running around all my games now and making a post or two before I go out for the day so be quiet. It's annoying when you constantly peck at someone.

 

[Dad]

It's annoying when you ignore me for 4 days in a row when I ask you to respond to things which you still have to respond to, wait until we have 4 hours left until deadline to post anything and then go V/LA until after deadline.

But hey, who's complaining right? You.

 

[Dad]

Dad's tunneling TC for tunneling July and has explained his J suspicion or his July suspicion or his Hilt suspicion or any of his Town reads that he keeps obtaining for whatever strong reason. He is defending Acro by saying the case on him is completely full of WIFOM and full of holes when it isn't to anyone but Dad. He hasn't explained why Acro isn't scum besides his constant insinuating that it is going to be a ML and that he has a town-read on him. He keeps begging on people to get in here due to time and to vote TC for his teency reasoning.

Does no one else see his flippant reads he is just throwing out to throw out at this point? He's bullying his way to a TC lynch by trying to make players seem like there is no other optinon besides her which is utter BS.

Sang, get your vote back onto Acro. Why are you not voting your strongest scum-read JUST BECAUSE Dad is telling you to do so?

Yeah, you're scum. 100% of this is a blatant lie.

 

[#HBC | J]

Not to mention J, all you've been doing recently is making one liners about my credibility and trying to play up your relationship with Sang so she won't see reason. First it was me trying to bully her into doing what I want, now it's my smug/dumb play that is manipulating her.

You also speak directly to Sang hoping it will give you benefit while you continue to avoid addressing me because you know you can't win.

Stop spouting garbage.

No but seriously, reach harder.

You keep saying TC is the lynch when she isn't. You keep saying Acro isn't the lynch when he is.

Listen Kuzi, you have yet to explain why people shouldn't vote Acro besides "Listen to me cuz I'm a god at this game and know everything without having to explain things fully." and it's annoying that people are actually going through with your BS when other people that actually work hard to present their cases/reasoning and you just dismiss them to you being right/them being wrong. It's like a smack to the face when you dismiss things with this utter BS of one-liners. And it's actually working.

Now I seriously don't have anymore time before Sang comes over, I gotta go. MAKE SURE ACRO IS LYNCHED, IGNORE DAD. If I die during the night, lynch Dad to all hell because it has not fury. I can't ****block Dad anymore so get on the Acro wagon. TC lynch is dumb.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Sang, get your vote back onto Acro. Why are you not voting your strongest scum-read JUST BECAUSE Dad is telling you to do so?

Lol wow... As I said, I was swaying with my vote on Acro. His recent responses, and Dad pointing some things out that I hadn't thought of before, have messed with my strong read. And yet with all Dad has done that you think is bad you still call him null. If you think he's manipulating me so much why isn't he leaning scum for you?

 

[#HBC | J]

Yeah, you're scum. 100% of this is a blatant lie.

No it's not, it's the actual truth of the matter if you look back at your posts.

@Anyone: Tell me why you think Dad has that read on you. Has he explained this? I know he hasn't explained his Jscum read besides what I can gather, he dislikes my Acro push and he dislikes my AM push. Now he's tacking on activity to the person with over 200 posts in this game. Really?

I can't recall why he believes July is null-leaning scum
I can't recall why he believes Sang is now town over scum
I can't recall why he believes AM is town
I can't recall why he believes Panta is town
I can't recall why he believes Hilt is scum
I can't recall why he believes Tanny is town
I can't recall why he believes Acro is town

I can't recall anything besides his TC scum read which is pure garbage.

 

[Dad]

Listen Kuzi, you have yet to explain why people shouldn't vote Acro besides "Listen to me cuz I'm a god at this game and know everything without having to explain things fully." and it's annoying that people are actually going through with your BS when other people that actually work hard to present their cases/reasoning and you just dismiss them to you being right/them being wrong. It's like a smack to the face when you dismiss things with this utter BS of one-liners. And it's actually working.

Yeah except all that time I took to respond to Sang's case in its entirety and explained why yours was terrible.

But hey, according to J I'm just spouting that Acro is town without backing it up.

Listen, Scum, if you're just going to throw out baseless accusations, at least do them against someone who is inactive or defensless so they can't immediately disprove you.

You know just as well as I do that I'm not bullying this lynch and that I'm not twisting Sang to do what I want. I responded to her case in full and convinced her of a course of action. She has said multiple times why my arguments has made her waver on the Acro lynch yet you keep trying to pound in that I'm manipulating or that I'm bullying.

Oh but wait, what's this?

IF J DIES DURING THE NIGHT, I SHOULD BE THE NEXT ONE LYNCHES DESPITE BEING ON J'S NULL LIST.

Seriously you just changed your entire viewpoint ON A DIME. Why should I die over your other scum reads?

 

[#HBC | J]

Lol wow... As I said, I was swaying with my vote on Acro. His recent responses, and Dad pointing some things out that I hadn't thought of before, have messed with my strong read. And yet with all Dad has done that you think is bad you still call him null. If you think he's manipulating me so much why isn't he leaning scum for you?

Because this is Kuzi we are dealing with and he loves to manipulate things just to get his way even if he may be wrong in the end and like hell is he gonna get his way when he is spouting nonsense.

I can't protect you from his BS Sang if you won't just look at see it. Honestly, if there were a way to block him out I'd do that and just continue playing but oh look, there he is.

 

[#HBC | J]

Panta/Nich: Vote Acrostic!

Kay bye bye now.

 

[Dad]

Because this is Kuzi we are dealing with and he loves to manipulate things just to get his way even if he may be wrong in the end and like hell is he gonna get his way when he is spouting nonsense.

I can't protect you from his BS Sang if you won't just look at see it. Honestly, if there were a way to block him out I'd do that and just continue playing but oh look, there he is.

So why am I not scum if I love to manipulate things.

Contradiction again. You say Sang is scum because she is following my lead yet you say you can't protect her because of my manipulation. IF SHE'S YOUR SCUM READ THEN HOW IS SHE BEING MANIPULATED? BEING MANIPULATED IMPLIES SHE'S BEING LED ASTRAY AND THUS IS INNOCENT. HOWEVER YOU SAID SHE WAS SCUM WHO WAS JUST FOLLOWING ME OPPORTUNISTICALLY.

OH WAIT, ITS BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST SAYING WHAT'S CONVENIENT TO YOUR ARGUMENT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

Get your stances straight, jesus.

 

[Panta]

Seeing my town read and my townish read destroy each other hurts. :\

 

[Dad]

Panta/Nich: Vote Acrostic!

Kay bye bye now.

Too-daa-loo

Still havn't answered anything I've asked you wrt your terrible push on the AM wagon.
Still havn't addressed me and have been preaching to Sang this entire time.
Still havn't commented on tcat's switch to Acrostic.
Still havn't commented on Acrostic's response to Sang's push which are really good btw.
Still havn't made an effort to do anything except take shots at my credibility and say I'm bullying everyone (which is a lie)
Still havn't commented on you blatantly lying about me not explaining why Acrostic is town.
Still havn't explained BOTH (count em, 2) inconsistencies in your stances.

Panta/Nich: I swear to god if you even think about blindly following J after this argument. Please open your eyes.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Whoa I'm here. I'm here. Will claim if needed.

 

[Dad]

Please do.

Please put your vote on tcat as well. That will give Panta/Nich the ability to put him within hammer range.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

I'm a power role. If I'm put at L-1 then I'll claim it specifically. Er. traveling_cat. In circumstances like this, an NL would have been more optimal than a lynch. Then again J just keeps on running lynches on PRs. I will catch-up. But for now I'm not really satisfied with your response and your placement of the vote on me after Dad applies pressure to your July argument also didn't look good to me at all. If you could elaborate then it would be appreciate. But for now...

Vote: Traveling Cat

 

[Dad]

Listen Acro, soft claiming a PR is nice and all but now you're in the **** regardless of whether you claim or not because scum know you are and might nk you.

Since you've already outed that, you should claim. And fast. We need to have all the information out so we don't dawdle with this switch.