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[Dad]

Grrr how frustrating. >_<" I lost my post I was working on due to internet failure and I probably won't get to it again till later after I'm done hanging out with my brother.

So till then.

I'll be waiting with baited breath.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Keep in mind I'm trying to type responses quickly here, I will come back to them if you want and explain them in further depth. I will always go back and address them after I have fully caught up:

@Acrostic: If I told you that
Inferno Tandora
Tom Traveling Cat
Hilt
Ignatius SangfroidWarrior
Seph Nich

Held 2 scum who would they be and why?

I'm tackling most of this game by PoE. Nicholas hasn't posted a lot and neither has Sephiroth, but from what little I have seen from Sephiroth I have liked given his joke on me during RVS wrt the JTB incident. I am really scratching the bottom of the barrel here when it comes to Sephiroth, however I feel that scum wouldn't try to make a remark about the incident without attaching an agenda. From that interaction I kind of put Sephiroth as a kind of relatively high null read. Haven't really paid much attention to Nicholas at the moment. Will need to do a re-read wrt what he has posted. Null-town.

Ignatius SangfroidWarrior was hard to determine. At times I felt that she was going with J's lynch choices while having elaborate reads. Again perhaps it is perhaps the feeling I get from J tunneling on me, but I had the impression that Sangfroid was going along with RR and me because she knew they were going to be mislynches. At the end of D1 Sangfroid questions me hammering on RR. I took that as her trying to paint me with a bad brush after the fact that the RR lynch was either going to go through or I would force an NL. Null-scum.

Hilt. Jesus. I can't recall him answering why he got so stoked up with the RR lynch. However he seemed to give off this, "**** YOU RR" vibe that made me think he really thought that RR was scum. It is possible that this reaction could have been faked, but... it was terribly prolonged. I actually wanted to question Hilt further on this to see how genuine his reaction was wrt Red Ryu. Hilt going over Panta, seems like Hilt just not knowing Panta. Hilt if you are reading this, then Panta is kind of like that. Even though that should constitute a null tell, you should read over Newbie 13 before committing to his lynch. Not sure if you ever addressed the day-talk thing, but really that is what is cementing Panta as dumb-town for me. Null-town.

Tom traveling_cat. Okay. This is the up to the point where traveling_cat was trying to make a case on July. I will be honest. The first thing I thought when traveling_cat was making his case on July was, [1] why and [2] is this going to just be a fake case where so he can alpha lynch the biggest wagon later on. Initially traveling_cat had immense promise to me by pushing a new FoS. I didn't understand the "opportunistic" arguments that J|July were making as a July lynch was just not likely. Despite these criticism traveling_cat seemed to hold unto his FoS pretty firmly until I went V|LA. Then I don't know what happened. Evaluating traveling_cat based on his July push, I had her as: Null-town. Definitely need to adjust this read when I catch up.

Inferno Tandora. God. This one is also a stretch. So I thought Tandora trying to find a town read on traveling_cat based on Tom's early game confusion was sort of townie in that she was trying to find town and set up reads based on early game information. The actual premise of it was not very firm upon consideration and honestly Tom just didn't post enough to indicate his alignment as town or scum. I was tempted to say that scum Tom would be more active during the day phase and would be more conscientious of Omni not being in the game, i.e. my thoughts of the scum QT: Tom: "Yo my bro Omni is in this game!" Scum-partner: "Omni isn't in this game Tom!" Tom: "Oh damn." However, such an interaction is such a stretch, especially in the beginning of the game that the whole thing of conceptualizing it is null. And therefore, Tandora is null.

Also, Tandora, what do you think my gender is based on my icon? o_o

So by PoE: SangfroidWarrior and Tandora. If there are two scum in that list.

 

[Dad]

Decent answer thought I'm not gonna lie my reads have changed significantly since I asked you that so its not the most relevant.

But keep going haha.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Ignatius SangfroidWarrior was hard to determine. At times I felt that she was going with J's lynch choices while having elaborate reads. Again perhaps it is perhaps the feeling I get from J tunneling on me, but I had the impression that Sangfroid was going along with RR and me because she knew they were going to be mislynches. At the end of D1 Sangfroid questions me hammering on RR. I took that as her trying to paint me with a bad brush after the fact that the RR lynch was either going to go through or I would force an NL. Null-scum.

Woooowwwww. What happened to where you liked the fact that I posted all of my reasons for disliking RR. And where did you get the idea that I thought they were mislynches? I sincerely thought RR would turn up scum, and I think you will as well. Like, this post is so screwy I don't even. Like, wow. What happened to the town read you had on me yesterday?

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

@Acrostic: Stop changing your goddamn avatar. Also, read on J. Is his inability to understand your simple explanation regarding your past read on RR a scumtell, or is he just dumb?

I don't know how flexible J is. But if I had to characterize J's play, it is extremely rigid. His initial vote was on Panta and then the FoS was on RedRyu. With J hosting Newbie 13 I thought the early move on Panta was him trying to be objective. Again I thought J was going for a no-meta approach to this game, however that was the primary thing that stuck out to me D1. The other thing is the immense flood of questions that take up time, but seem to have little to no effect on the development of his FoS. This commentary is mostly for what I saw from D1. J seemed highly disinterested in hearing out from me what I had to say about RR|Seikend. He did leave me questions and I answered, but really the effect of my answers seemed negligible. I would not be surprised if J flipped scum. The question is whether he would be this adamant|aggressive as scum as his confidence is reassuring, especially for a town that is semi-active and trying to grasp for lynches. J's insistence to press on me is somewhat scummy. I am not sure though if this is an OMGUS from my end wrt our back and forth.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

This quote basically sums up why I'm wary of Sang. It feels like she's anxious to appear townie, as this more or less says "Sorry for appearing scummy by flipping too easily on my reads, I'll try to look townier now." However, that aside her play hasn't been bad, so it may just be a newbie trying to improve, so null for now.

I was being sarcastic to J with that one. I was slightly annoyed at what he was insinuating.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Alright. I'm at the #946:

I dislike it because he assumes we will know when he is serious, and hasn't brought up anything wrt scum teams after that point. Any accusation, even off the top of your head, has to have proof if you're just going to up and post it on the thread. Also, he hasn't really done much up to that point. Most of it was talking about inactives and asking people about how often they're going to post. Again, as with the early thing, he's making extended and overdeveloped excuses and defenses for why he's doing certain things, like making scum team accusations.

The whole Tom|Tandora thing was very distinct that I felt like making a comment wrt to it. I was a bit silly though saying that I would use an asterick for reads. I imagined it would be for something like, Hilt*town, or something along those lines, but I just didn't end up having that conviction. *_*

Point taken though wrt to me not leaving a scum accusation. J even called me out on it D1 that I didn't have a firm scum read. Tbh I didn't have one and it is understandable that you clarify it as anti-town. I was upset with the Dad slot D1 for leaving reads with little to no justification. And also the LST|July slot for going in with the RR-Acro relationship that J was stating earlier. However neither of these two things stuck out to me as being firm indication of them being scum. So you're right, I didn't push on them early enough.

And here we are again. I go V|LA without ending with a firm mafia vote on someone and we end up with a strayed town that is splintered off into three directions. You are right that I haven't taken a firm stance or tried to direct the pace of this game and that I've been defending myself and hoping that someone else takes the reigns. The only thing that I felt sure about were whether two players were or were not in a team together, and even then I wasn't very proactive in that regard.

Based on skimming recent content, I believe that I do have foses that I want to push. Mainly Tandora who I disagree with in regards to AM|Hilt. I will re-read Tandora though to see her reasoning for it. Also traveling_cat who needs to really explain her shift in position today.

My explanations are just my thoughts. If they are overextended and lengthy, then that's the way they come out. Sorry if they are a pain in the *** to read.

I also don't like this post because he admits to ignoring JTB, a confirmed town member, because he didn't feel like dealing with him. If you're not scum, why not try to get JTB off your back and try to point people to a real scum pick? Also, he hides behind certain actions of his saying that it's just a playstyle test, like it's going to clear him when he does something scummy. He asks people how they normally play, like that's going to make a difference on how he reads somebody. He jumps on the LST wagon after Dad for all the wrong reasons. His reasons are crappy and full of holes. Reference:

JTB was annoying me for something I had explained many times. A real scum pick? Town was dead and there was no scum for me to pick based on the content that I saw available. I did try to shoot questions though to gauge reads. With regards to the playstyle test, that was my response to Hilt IIRC and it was me trying to stand my ground. I didn't really want to be patronized early on, but I don't think that I have used playstyle as an excuse in any of my latter explanations. When I voted LST, I was aware that Dad had already left and I stated so.

His first reason is lame. Apply pressure to whomever you want. They will get to it when they actually get here. It might make them get here sooner.

Iggy blatantly said, SWF made prodding rules for me. When I grasped that I realized it was dumb to press questions on him because he probably wouldn't answer them in due time. LST trying to push on Iggy suggested to me that they were trying to make a push on someone that wouldn't really give them much in return. I didn't see the point of doing something like that, unless they weren't really interested in getting feedback & returns. So it seemed disgenuine and if you read the comment, LST put the vote based on hydras. So it was a pretty ridiculous start.

The second, up until maybe the last sentence is just digging. Then, he magically unvotes LST because of LST's push on Seikend which, to me, doesn't seem like enough to make somebody think they are town, especially if Acro has as much against them as he says he does.

LST's case on Seikend looked like it had some substance. If you look at the reasons why I had my vote on LST, they were pretty much for him being full of b.s. Writing a post about scumhunting but not doing any scumhunting so on and so forth. Fossing because Ignatius was a hydra. I could have pressured him more, but I had hopes for the LST slot after that post.

Then, he says that Dad is hiding behind the reason of being a hydra to get out of situations, which basically comes out of nowhere, and he argues why it would take Dad 12 hours to respond to something. Then, again, he randomly votes for RR and even claims to have a null-scum read on him here:

I said that about Dad because it is true. There is one post where J asks Soup to explain a read, and he's like, "Because Kooz said so." I mean, wtf. That literally is the justification we are left with for the entire day. The timing of the case was irrelevant. I thought Dad lied about his reason for voting someone and turned out wrong. IIRC I thought Dad said he initially unvoted LST because the wagon wouldn't gain steam. Then I thought he said that his unvote was due to a hydra misunderstanding. So when I read this I voted him, because I thought he was lying. It turns out that I was mistaken.

My vote on RR comes after I found out that Dad wasn't lying. I couldn't have a "changed read" on RR because I never stated my read on RR IIRC. I knew RR fossed me and I addressed his points the day before the vote. He didn't address any of those points and then suddenly switched to Seikend. I touched upon this in my response to July in her #899.

Kk but after you drop the Dad vote you put your vote on RR and say the reason is in your #372, which is here: "@RR: RR an explanation to why you decided to transition from me to Seikend would be nice. When I asked you to come at me, I wanted you to come at me so I could see you scumhunting and being pro-town before we decided to lynch. Bleck." This reasoning was weak for you to switch your vote to RR and put him to L-2, from reading this post it didn't seem like your concerns about RR scum were all that strong and you had JUST told Sangfroid to re-read and reassess. After find out that your top scum pick was based off a misunderstanding, you immediately jumped on RR without any further explanation of your scum read on him, and that seemed like you were just trying to get away from the Dad mistake and get on the popular wagon

Going to give you back the same explanation I gave July.

Perhaps you didn't know, but that post is with regards to my posts in #332, and #333. If you read that post alone then you would think it is a weak reason since it is a progression of these two previous posts getting unsatisfactory answers. I told Sangfroid to re-read and reassess because she missed the two posts I probably posted before which I'm assuming you missed as well. I didn't just "hop-on" to the popular wagon, I had a vague feeling that RR could be town and wanted him to "come at me" so he could start showing off his town vibes. I hope this clarifies some things.

#372: [1] RR's lack of explanation for switching from Seikend to me
[2] Lack of rebuttal to #332 and #333.
#384: [1] and [2]
#390: [1]
#508: [1]

Although it doesn't really come from nowhere, his changed read on RR does. He claims he doesn't know why J thinks RR is scum even though he himself has a partial scum read on RR. And then, suddenly, out of the blue, he claims that he knows that RR is going to flip town, like he's giving himself an out for later on in the game so that if people claim he voted for RR he could say that he wasn't comfortable with it, he just wanted a lynch.

Nah. I don't need an out. I already explained myself. Me saying RR was town was a gut-read. J, July, and you were being too mechanical. You were playing logical games that seemed to give me the impression that you found all these holes in RR. Well good job, RR was full of holes. Anyone could look at him and see that he didn't address points well and was a mess. But where are his partners. Who was trying to give him assistance. These things were missing. So yes, you logically demolished RR, but guess what, that didn't indicate jack about his actual alignment. He played poorly as town and in my gut I recognized that. I'm serious, did you think that RR was going to flip scum? I wasn't. I honestly came to the conclusion that you have to be b.s.'ing yourself if you were dead sure that RR was going to flip scum, because the statements at the end of the day indicating to me that this was likely going to be a lynch on a poor-playing townie. And no, I didn't have an elaborate logical argument to back this up. I wanted to make the right call rather than be stuck playing logical crap shoots and having a sound methodology while getting the final answer wrong. Logic is a means to an end, but not the end in and of itself.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

... not to deny logic or the fact that it can find scum... but it wasn't applied well wrt RR.

Well, I'll sort of skip it. He gave us a list of "bottom-of-the-barrell" scum reads and his reasons were outdated reasons that he had early in the Day, and then he never gave us an updated list

The list was pretty much how I still felt about the current reads so I really didn't find a pressing need to update it. I believe I said something along those lines.

even when we asked him to and made about 3 posts freaking out about the deadline and then immediately logged off without giving us reads. Then, he, again, randomly goes back to saying that he'd rather have a lynch on either Dad or July, as well as Seph. I'm assuming that he thinks his previous reasons still stand, but he had cleared those up earlier and take his votes off of those exact people.

I would have preferred a Dad|July lynch over Red Ryu or Seikend after I assessed the situation of the wagons. Someone asked me who I really wanted lynched that day, and I answered Dad|July. As stated previously, I thought the lynch setup was TvT. Seph was kind of for policy reasons... I didn't really read what he had to say at that point and didn't feel a lingering attachment to him living over RR or Seikend. And I did unvote them, that didn't mean that I still didn't retain some lingering suspicions on them.

His #711 annoys me because he's assuming that what is important to him should be important to others when doing an ISO.

I'm the one getting ISO'd.

In that post, he does not touch on any of my case against him. In fact, he doesn't metion me at all. I'm not sure why but I dislike it.

You had a case against me? If I addressed it then I forgot about it. If I didn't mention you it's because...

I'm the one getting ISO'd.

Also, if he can make a list of things that people think he is scummy for, something is wrong.

I made a list of things that people might try to pin me down as scum for, it is easy when you are questioned throughout the entire game to remember what others disliked. I just listed them all so people wouldn't have to waste time trying to create a case against me, because I don't believe I am fundamentally scummy and will clear up such points of contention that people would have wrt the points I brought up.

His posts earlier toDay don't really do anything for the town. They are defenses and accusations with no explanations. He had me as town early on and then changed me to null-scum with no reason given, and then he claims that he has a town read on July even though he would have been willing to vote her yesterDay. Then, after he claims V/LA, he immediately jumps on the Indy bandwagon.

Hey. I never stated that Hilt was an indie role. Nor did I join a bandwagon on him. I didn't vote for Hilt. I was considering it as a possibility. I questioned AM and how he got to an indie Hilt. I'm not going to ask where these reads are, but I'm really not sure about your alignment to be honest. So forgive me if I'm fickle with it. Ugh. I had a town read on July? I don't believe I blatantly said that, but I could be mistaken.

 

[Dad]

So, J. Where's the content you keep promising me.

First it was that you just weren't interested in mafia anymore and that you were going to take a break from dGames. Well that didn't happen now did it? Then it was because you just weren't up to posting because you wanted to relax after the awesome show you were just at. Fair enough, but you then promised me that content the next day which I expected to get. You didn't post all day today (but posted in other games) and only came on tonight when you saw Sang waver on the Acrostic wagon. I then confronted you about that content you've still been dodging me for to which you responded your post got lost and that you had to do something with your brother. Fair enough again, but now I see you posting frequently in another game which makes me think that you've finished the buisness with your brother and gotten over the fear of SWF eating your posts.

And now, 20~ hours until deadline, you still haven't made an effort to answer my accusations and fall back on the "Acro or Hilt will be lynched today simply by nature of how close the deadline is."

If I didn't know any better, I'd say you were stalling to the point where that situation would become the only solution so you get your Acro lynch to avoid a NL. But that couldn't be the case, right?

Acro is in the thread right now pumping out responses while you've continued to ignore my accusations/tcat's blatant scumminess/and Acrostic's rebuttals.

Not to mention tcat has viewed the thread continuously after I posted my latest response but has yet to say anything in response.

We can still switch the bandwagon. Acrostic isn't scum. Everyone, please stop being stupid and lynch scumcat.

And for the record:

The other thing is the immense flood of questions that take up time, but seem to have little to no effect on the development of his FoS. This commentary is mostly for what I saw from D1. J seemed highly disinterested in hearing out from me what I had to say about RR|Seikend. He did leave me questions and I answered, but really the effect of my answers seemed negligible.

This is spot on.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

@Acro. I'll reply to your posts tomorrow. I'm exhausted and have to get up early and I want to be able to reply fully instead of half***ed.

@Dad. Just a question, and I want you to answer this. If TC flips town, what will you do? As in, who will you look at? And I don't want an answer that's like "I know TC will flip scum." If she really flips town, who would be your scum picks by that point?

 

[Dad]

I will lynch J.

 

[Dad]

Again, as I said, I don't know or care about the connections between my scumpicks. They're my scumpicks through their own individual scummy play, not because I think they are connected.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Deadline is in 9 hours and 30 minutes. Prodding people again. Votecount coming.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Panta and Tandora receive prods.

Voted | Voter(s) | Votes/Lynch
Acrostic | J, July, traveling cat | 3 / 7
Hilt | Aggressive Mediation, Panta, Tandora | 3 / 7
traveling cat | Dad |1 / 7
Panta | Hilt | 1 / 7

---​

Not Voting: Nicholas1024, JTB, Acrostic, SangfroidWarrior;

Takes 7/12 to lynch

 

[Tandora]

Jesus, I'm sorry that I haven't been posting. I've been really busy and just lost track of time. I'm going to switch my vote to Acrostic because I don't know if I'll be back on before deadline and I don't want a NL.

VOTE ACROSTIC

 

[Dad]

Tanny, think of what you are doing before you do it, what we have done this whole day will be for nothing if you just come in here and quickly vote acrostic, we still have time to change the wagon, this is a goddamn mislynch and neither of us are letting it happen

 

[Dad]

@Dad. Just a question, and I want you to answer this. If TC flips town, what will you do? As in, who will you look at? And I don't want an answer that's like "I know TC will flip scum." If she really flips town, who would be your scum picks by that point?

answering for the kuz side who has been doing all the talk toDay and i've been sitting in the background, our scumpicks won't change most likely, we still think J is scum and will be pushing for that either way, idk where kuz will exactly look, but i know we agree on J.

 

[Dad]

I'm pretty sure I already answered that for them, Soup lol.

@Tanny: Lets make a deal. Put your vote back on Hilt. Others will vote him at deadline and so will we. Acrostic isn't scum, stop being an idiot.

NOT TO MENTION BOTH J AND TCAT STILL HAVN'T RESPONDED TO ANYTHING.

Man besides a few select people, I'm disgusted with this town. This is such a bad lynch.

 

[Dad]

I wanted to do something toDay, you've been hogging the hydra, kuz. >

 

[Dad]

EBWO P:

 

[Dad]

Vig I swear to god shoot one of J or traveling cat. At worst tcat is a tunnely lurker that wouldn't be missed when gone. However she's flipping scum. That or J, but unless you have the balls (something almost none of you have shown me this game) you won't be shooting J because he's too logical and he's too productive that you can't see the scummyness behind it.

And yes, I'm kinda mad because this lynch is so bad.

 

[Dad]

And Acrostic, I hate to do this but it's really looking like you're going to be the lynch and with this inactivity and the deadline in 8 hours we can't afford the luxury of waiting till later for you to claim.

You need to claim the next time you log in.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

@Dad. Alrighty. I'll vote with you to see if this wagon can get a little speed but if it doesn't get anywhere before like 2 or something (I'm going to a friend's house around then) I'm gonna change my vote back.

@Acro. Could you clarify your scumpicks now?

Let me just make this clear, I'm doing this because I'm questioning my scum read on Acro. His recent posts (as well as Dad's) have pointed out the flaws in my logic, and he has also cleared some things up for me that I really appreciate. Also, I do think that TC could be scum. Her tunnel on July and then the switch on Acro do not paint her in a good light. Also, besides the tunnel on July, she has offered hardly anything else to the town. If you want, I'll make a huge post about it later like I did with RR and Acro but, unless somebody asks for it, I don't see the need.

Vote: traveling cat

 

[Dad]

Wagon go go get!

 

[DtJ Hilt]

TownJ would have called me out for using meta regardless of the situation, not only when it was not to his benefit.

I'm interested. Could you show examples of this?

Woooowwwww. What happened to where you liked the fact that I posted all of my reasons for disliking RR. And where did you get the idea that I thought they were mislynches? I sincerely thought RR would turn up scum, and I think you will as well. Like, this post is so screwy I don't even. Like, wow. What happened to the town read you had on me yesterday?

Scummiest post I've seen all morning.

Also, didn't like TC's side of the back and forth between her and Dad. Liked Acrostic's 1042. Starting to agree with Dad on him being town, though don't remember having a strong reason to think of him as scum yet this game.

I am willing to board the TC wagon if it will for sure happen. I will be sure that I am on for the remainder of the day. Caffeine. Lots of caffeine.

Annoying that the three people that are on my wagon have been inactive. Tandora is hilarious.

Be sure it's known with enough time in advance before I'm lynched, if it comes to that. I want to claim in that situation. I would like TC to as well, if it comes to his lynch.

 

[Dad]

After people place votes and the wagon actually starts to move (so people actually think it can move), people will switch their votes. We need yours and it's not even on anyone else right now so you're not hurting any other wagon.

We seriously can still switch this. 7.5 hrs left.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Scummiest post I've seen all morning.

Lol I just find that amusing. How is that scummy?

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

I feel like this is the Panta switch in newbie >.>

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

EBWOP: Not the mislynch part but the scrambling for votes part.

 

[Dad]

I feel like this is the Panta switch in newbie >.>

Except we're getting off a ML, not getting onto it.

 

[Dad]

Hilt, vote tcat. Seriously.

Acrostic will too when he gets on. We'll be able to force a wagon switch once we have 4 votes.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Lol I just find that amusing. How is that scummy?

You boo hoo about Acrostic's changing opinion on you in a way that seemed victimized. I'm going to make an edit to your post to show you what I'm talking about. If your post had been merely this, and you had left out all the dramatic fluff, it would have been fine:

What happened to where you liked the fact that I posted all of my reasons for disliking RR. And where did you get the idea that I thought they were mislynches? What happened to the town read you had on me yesterday?

It would have been an instance of you calling him out on his shifted opinion and that would have been fine. Instead, you added all of this:

Woooowwwww. I sincerely thought RR would turn up scum, and I think you will as well. Like, this post is so screwy I don't even. Like, wow.

To anyone else reading this, be sure to read the original post. Also, if you think he'll turn up scum, where's your vote? Time's wasting, kiddo.

And yeah, okay, Dad.

Vote: Traveling Cat

Prepared for the backlash for jumping on the wagon. Don't want a no lynch, nor do I want the day wasted on my lynch either.

 

[Dad]

Gonna post that everytime someone mans up and has the balls to lynch scum.

But what do you mean prepared for the backlash? Backlash of what?

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Nine times out of ten, when someone votes for a player and doesn't give an essay of a reason, even if it's the end of the day and we're becoming desperate for a lynch, that player is attacked for their vote, oftentimes regardless of the lynched player's flip. Acrostic's vote on RR was a good example. Perhaps backlash was the wrong word, though. But I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, happens all the time.

 

[Dad]

I see.

Acrostic'll vote with us, that won't be a problem.

AM will too if he gets on here before deadline.

July/Panta/JTB/Nich will vote to avoid a NL.

We got this wagon.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Voted | Voter(s) | Votes/Lynch
Acrostic | J, July, traveling cat, Tandora | 4 / 7
Hilt | Aggressive Mediation, Panta | 2 / 7
traveling cat | Dad, SangfroidWarrior, Hilt |3 / 7

---​

Not Voting: Nicholas1024, JTB, Acrostic;

Takes 7/12 to lynch

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

You boo hoo about Acrostic's changing opinion on you in a way that seemed victimized.

Clearing this up. No, it wasn't meant to be like that. If you read my case on Acrostic, one of my points is that he changes his opinion on things without giving any evidence as to why. This seemed like one of those instances because he had a town read on me and hadn't said what had changed. In face, he still hasn't but I give up.

original post[/URL]. Also, if you think he'll turn up scum, where's your vote? Time's wasting, kiddo.

My vote is on TC. And, I made that post before he had made his response post. I find it amusing (and annoying) that you ISO that post alone, even in the link, and don't show that I was annoyed earlier because he had promised us stuff earlier but decided to put a different game over this one, and I had misunderstood and thought that he had said he was only going to answer things if people asked him then.

Acrostic's vote on RR was a good example. Perhaps backlash was the wrong word, though. But I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, happens all the time.

Yes, I'm quoting this as well. No, it wasn't a good example because Acro voted for RR even though he was adamant that RR would flip town. IIRC, you think that TC could be leaning town, so I don't see how this compares at all to your situation.

 

[Dad]

Nich as much as I appreciate you're trying to catch up, we only have 7 hours and we need your vote. If you need to see reasoning on tcat wagon read from 960 - now. I suggest you become familiar with the current happenings now while we have time.

You can read the rest of the thread toNight.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

@Dad. A lot of this wagon is assuming that people will actually be active before the deadline.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

EBWOP: "IIRC, you think that TC could be leaning scum, so I don't see how this compares at all to your situation."