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#HBC | Acrostic

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I understand. And I believe that you still fos me off the fact that I thought that the RR lynch was a PL lynch which would be an ML. Which it was. And I have yet to see how stating that I was on a lynch that was fundamentally a PL that would likely be an ML is scummy.
 

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Woops my mistake. ^^"

Anyways, who are you personally looking at toDay? Do you have any scum-picks?
I want to look into Dad|Sangfroid|July today. Will also try to get reads on travelingcat|Tandora.
 

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I understand. And I believe that you still fos me off the fact that I thought that the RR lynch was a PL lynch which would be an ML. Which it was. And I have yet to see how stating that I was on a lynch that was fundamentally a PL that would likely be an ML is scummy.
Have you been reading Acro? We have explained why it is scummy for someone to do that and if you have actually read our back and forth, there is more then just that. You seem to be strawmanning the man attack against you.

Also I think it's a little more serious then an FoS at this point.
 

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Day 2 - Votecount #1

Voted | Voter(s) | Votes/Lynch
Acrostic | Dad, J | 2 / 7

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Not Voting: Tandora, Traveling Cat, Sephiroths Masamune, July, Aggressive Mediation, JTB, Hilt, Acrostic, Panta, SangfroidWarrior;

Takes 7/12 to lynch
 

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@TC ISO'ing is basically one step further from just reading their posts, ISO'ing is basically zoning into one player and taking attention to detail, if the ISO comes out negative, like that abortion i gave my wife, then no harm done, i unvote. if it comes out positive, then my vote is warranted and i leave it there, along with making a case.

@J Acro, Seph, Sang - in that order, dunno what to think of mr.math man.

the TC slot looks town already from her question she presented, the seph slot is more of a bother for me.

offtopic but i'm not sure who or why would kill seikend, perhaps to put bias on this dad here but i highly doubt it.

@Acro

i voted RR for reasons stated in the thread, if i didn't clarify on a dead townie then sorry, he's already flipped already.

Sadly, same goes with seikend, i believed that at first seikend was being accused for not enough content but then i looked at what he did have and i didn't like it one bit, i was ready to go with a seikend pressure, but then deadline happens and the RR wagon wasn't getting any lighter.

hmmm...

y'know

i'm completely forgetting about Hilt, he's scum too.

scratch the list J

Acro, Hilt, Sang, TC

in THAT order.
 

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Have you been reading Acro? We have explained why it is scummy for someone to do that and if you have actually read our back and forth, there is more then just that. You seem to be strawmanning the man attack against you. Also I think it's a little more serious then an FoS at this point.
I believe I have addressed all the points wrt the points you have brought up, if I missed any then I apologize and will answer them. If I am strawmanning then it was not intentional, but a lot of content was bogus based on false reads connected between me and RR. If you won't question me further to test your reads because you already that confident, then I would appreciate it if you allowed me to ask for the justification in your reads wrt Dad|July|Sangfroid. IIRC you have a town read on Dad, town read on July, and a null-scum read on Sangfroid. Sorry in advance if I have any of your reads incorrect.
 

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i don't want J getting her panties in a bunch so i guess i can explain some of the reasons why i'm voting him.

One is the interaction between RR, Hilt shows a cocky and egotistical attitude towards RR for no reason such as going "lol you gonna scum already?"

I find this bad, i don't find it bad because of moral grounds, but because it looks like he's trying to manipulate the situation, even after that Hilt dissapears, another thing is probably his voting patterns, which i'll look at later.
 

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Reasons for Daddy|Sang|July?
Dad never came through with justification on D1 when it came to his reads on RR|Seikend. He said he was going to out them, but he never got to it. A large part of Dad is unexplainable and despite this many people are okay with it despite him still being a hard read based on the aforementioned behavior.

Sangfroid's case on RR was rather elaborate. I don't think she's the type of person who would go with a gut read on someone. Therefore I want to re-read some of her initial stances and see if there are actual points that I'm missing or if there are holes in her analysis which could lead me somewhere for today.

July has been bothering me based on how readily she adopted your stance and opinion. I really want to see what motive she had in being so pliable to take on your case and try to expand on it further.

In general I feel that there is a "J faction" which consists of Dad, Sang, and July. I'm curious who in it is going along for the ride in order to avoid suspicion and who just happens to be in it based on aligning foses and agreement on other players.
 

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Seikend... doesn't have many posts. THen again, I can't saying anything. :p

He comes in after getting prodded and provides... what everyone has already said.

[]bI like his vote on Hilt because that is basically what I thought when I saw Hilt's vote on myself. However, it looks like he is trying to cozy up to me with his questioning of Hilt.[/b]

Hilt gave a pretty good reason as to why his vote was on me, in order to learn my playstyle. He said he probably wouldn't pursue my lynch because he wanted to pressure me in order to learn how I play. Seikend seems to totally ignore that fact, or he didn't see it.

I don't like his reason for his reads on Dad. In the beginning he said, oh cool, I'm not gonna have a hard time reading Soup/Kuz because I have played with you guys before, and he uses that excuse again when J asked him about his read on Dad with regards to LST. All he states is that, their votes were weird, but I inclined to agree with Dad because we usually have the same reads in the end. What is that?

Seikend's justification for his reads on me, J, LST, and AM seem like a cop out too. They are all one liners that barely contribute and I think they don't meet the expectations of the people who asked the question.

I don't know why he would feel more confident with AM's reads when he called AM out saying that his entrance into this game was terabad. It just doesn't make sense. And by the way, when I think of AM... I can't think of anything. His posts are really annoying for me to read. >_>

365 is a nice little way of changing RR's wording, Seikend. First of all, you came in after J had established his reads and then you both got close saying you guys had such similar reads. You also talk about that in your own post. Did you forget about that?

Meh. I don't feel like it is SvS and like you all said they are both scummy. I can't put my finger on who is more scummy, though. :\

Since the deadline is so close, though, I am going with a Seikend vote.

Unvote
Vote: Seikend
god looking back at this post is so rubbish, panta deff feeling like scum and connected to Hilt
 

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unvote
vote Panta

unvote
vote: panta

unvote
vote: Hilt

ughguuhghguh just looking at it hurts my ****ing eyes but i have more important stuff to do, let's see if i can hit two dummies with one car.
 

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@Sangfroid: Is this a "gut" town read on Dad then?
I wouldn't say gut read, but I do feel like that slot is town. That read was at a point where I hadn't done any questioning for myself, so, yes, I guess you could consider some of those gut reads, but I don't think they are. I'm still sticking by my town read on him for the moment, though a few of my reads from that post have changed.
 

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@Dad. Is #726 scum picks, or just people you want to look at?

@J. Who are you planning in looking at today, other than Acrostic?

@Acro. Could you elaborate more on this "J faction" idea you have?
 

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I believe I have addressed all the points wrt the points you have brought up, if I missed any then I apologize and will answer them. If I am strawmanning then it was not intentional, but a lot of content was bogus based on false reads connected between me and RR. If you won't question me further to test your reads because you already that confident, then I would appreciate it if you allowed me to ask for the justification in your reads wrt Dad|July|Sangfroid. IIRC you have a town read on Dad, town read on July, and a null-scum read on Sangfroid. Sorry in advance if I have any of your reads incorrect.
Bolded you say you are sorry for strawmanning but you do it in the very same sentence. No, a lot of the content wasn't based on the connection.

Daddy = Null
July = Null-leaning town
Sang = Null-leaning scum

I'll get explanations in just a bit.
 

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i don't want J getting her panties in a bunch so i guess i can explain some of the reasons why i'm voting him.

One is the interaction between RR, Hilt shows a cocky and egotistical attitude towards RR for no reason such as going "lol you gonna scum already?"

I find this bad, i don't find it bad because of moral grounds, but because it looks like he's trying to manipulate the situation, even after that Hilt dissapears, another thing is probably his voting patterns, which i'll look at later.
I don't get anything you are saying w.r.t. Hilt. I never thought of Hilt coming off as cocky/egotisical. However I guess I will have to wait till you show what exactly you are talking about.

And duh, when you throw out a random vote on a seemingly new read, people are gonna ask for your reasons.
 

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Dad never came through with justification on D1 when it came to his reads on RR|Seikend. He said he was going to out them, but he never got to it. A large part of Dad is unexplainable and despite this many people are okay with it despite him still being a hard read based on the aforementioned behavior.
Can you bring this up in quotes because I could of sworn they said somewhere why they were voting RR?

Acro said:
Sangfroid's case on RR was rather elaborate. I don't think she's the type of person who would go with a gut read on someone. Therefore I want to re-read some of her initial stances and see if there are actual points that I'm missing or if there are holes in her analysis which could lead me somewhere for today.
I look forward to see what you see of Sang.

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July has been bothering me based on how readily she adopted your stance and opinion. I really want to see what motive she had in being so pliable to take on your case and try to expand on it further.
So you don't like her for adding onto my case on you? What I saw from July seemed more like her posting her thoughts on not just one scum-pick but 3 of them. Stances can match but are you trying to say you think they are fake to just match mine?

Acro said:
In general I feel that there is a "J faction" which consists of Dad, Sang, and July. I'm curious who in it is going along for the ride in order to avoid suspicion and who just happens to be in it based on aligning foses and agreement on other players.
Not even close and don't even try and throw that conspiracy theory around. The only one in that group i'd even consider having a group with is July. Sang I have my eye on and Daddy is just too flipping weird. Can you show where you believe that those three are hiding behind me in order to cover their ***es?

Underlying question, if you believe these three to be scummy and who you wanna look into, why does your vote not reside on any of them?
 

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@J. Who are you planning in looking at today, other than Acrostic?
Atm, I am currently wanting to look into you and Daddy more. Can you tell me what you think of Daddy just based on how he is posting toDay?

Daddy, can you go into more of your PantaScum push? Once again, a read I'm not seeing really. Are you connecting a Panta-Hilt scum team?
 

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I wouldn't say gut read, but I do feel like that slot is town. That read was at a point where I hadn't done any questioning for myself, so, yes, I guess you could consider some of those gut reads, but I don't think they are. I'm still sticking by my town read on him for the moment, though a few of my reads from that post have changed.
Can you tell us which reads have possibly changed?
 

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Daddy is null because he is a flipping mofo to read and I keep going back and forth. I liked what I gained from my little pressure vote on him earlier in the phase but lately I don't know what to think. He hopped off RR for a non-existant reason and said Seik was scum but never explained why. We can't get anything from that however because Seik's now dead and flipped town. Plus I don't necessarily get his play toDay with him jumping from Acro to Hilt to Panta in a very short amount of time but I need to wait to see what he brings up w.r.t. Panta/Hilt more. I also don't get the slight buddying of me however that's a null-tell in themselves.

That's a major thing for me with this slot, a LOT of what they are posting to me is a null-tell and I can't really get much of anything off of them yet. I really want to see more before I can give a better opinion on them.

Sang, I have said why I dislike her but there is nothing that completely sells me on her being scum. There are some things I have questioned and brought to attention but even then her responses didn't convince me fully that I like her. Her reads seem to match up with mine quite a bit but there's something there. Grrr Sang. Just grrr overall.

July, I like her. I liked the slot before hand and I thought the mini-wagon that had formed on that slot wasn't really well put together. They had been explaining fully why they disliked people and had been giving content when they were posting. I do not get the fluff accusation on them. I also really agreed to a lot of what July posted in her catch-up post especially when she was explaining Sang and also her discontent for Acro. However once again, this slot doesn't have too much to their name so I'd like to see more before I take a concrete stance on them.
 

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So it seems I'm actually going to play this game now because I'm dead in everything else.

Still don't have my hydra password and Soup isn't here to tell me it.

Seikend was almost 100% certainly a vig shot. He was too high a profile suspect and fairly non-menacing. I couldn't see mafia wasting their time with him. I'm pretty sure the mafia shot was *********** anyway. <-- Doc crumb

The fact that JTB isn't dead means that he simply wasn't a big enough threat to an anti-town killing role.

J don't ever call us daddy ever again.

Also J, you've been playing this game pretty horrendously. But I guess that's just second nature to you, so no big.

Good stuff coming when I've read the thread.
 

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J don't ever call us daddy ever again.

Also J, you've been playing this game pretty horrendously. But I guess that's just second nature to you, so no big.
Now that I know it annoys you I may just do it more. But fine I guess I guess I can stop calling you Daddy.

And what are you even talking about cuz it sounds like a bunch of BS.
 

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I'm just telling it like it is.

You're playstyle is pretty much ripping town apart from what I've seen thus far. Step it up.
 

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I'm just telling it like it is.

You're playstyle is pretty much ripping town apart from what I've seen thus far. Step it up.
Why must you be an *** when you play this game? Like I have no idea what you are talking about whatsoever. I feel I am playing fine if not good for once so step off.
 

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hey kuz, dad time.

password was sent, pm me about my reads t-

god ninja

I'M COMING TOO
 

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Why must you be an *** when you play this game? Like I have no idea what you are talking about whatsoever. I feel I am playing fine if not good for once so step off.
Not really, this game in particular you seem to really be ****ing things up.

I'll see what I can do.
 

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I'm at my anime club so if you wanna pick my brain it will have to be when I get back around 6ish. Is that alright?
 

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^Tanny, when you get here could you do that as well.
Ugh, I've been trying to catch up ever since I came home on Sunday. Got to about page 13, but unfortunately I either forgot to save my notes for the game or misplaced them, so I might have to start over again.

I do remember that I don't like Aggressive Mediation at all. Feel his posts aren't helpful with his rambling about 1+1 and the rapper style. That playerslot should be taking a leader role if it truly is town, but from what I saw was mostly lurky with bursts of fluff posts.

VOTE AGGRESSIVE MEDIATION
 

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Oh my god I didn't realize Tandora was in this game.

@Tando: Read on J based on our interaction from post 743 down.
 

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Oh my god I didn't realize Tandora was in this game.

@Tando: Read on J based on our interaction from post 743 down.
Realistically I haven't been. I was V/LA when I replaced Inferno and when I returned, it was night phase. My last post was my first one. =(

Tell me what I want to hear.
Oh, dad, I like when you spank me hard?

Why must you be an *** when you play this game? Like I have no idea what you are talking about whatsoever. I feel I am playing fine if not good for once so step off.
Honestly, J is a little hard to read because he posts a lot as both town and scum. However, this particular post caught my eye. Not sure if meta, but it feels like he's sincerely hurt here by your accusations and I think scum J would have approached you differently.
 

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Oh, dad, I like when you spank me hard?
LOL

Honestly, J is a little hard to read because he posts a lot as both town and scum. However, this particular post caught my eye. Not sure if meta, but it feels like he's sincerely hurt here by your accusations and I think scum J would have approached you differently.
How would scumJ have approached me differently?
 
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