FF6 Mafia - GAME OVER! Mafia wins!

[Swiss]

I think that alone puts you firmly in the red category, BSL.

MK I'll assume I'm yellow.

Will someone tell DH he can char. claim.

 

[Swiss]

If we lynch you toDay, do you kill the person who hammers?

 

[M.K]

Oh yeah, Swiss is yellow.

Wtf why is it orange.

DH's role is like a ****ing labyrinth of words.

 

[vanderzant]

Why does swiss get his own colour XD

I thought you liked meta for some reason, and just cling to your meta on Day 1 like I do.

 

[vanderzant]

@J/Incom post please. You view the thread a lot without posting. Me no likey.

 

[BSL]

why does wanting to know my reason for being red put me in red? i dont see that in the criteria for being red.

MK, waiting on the answer.

DH, if you dont rolebock, does the next day's hammer still die?

 

[M.K]

I feel like I could be purple. Why am I red? Do I fit perfectly in the red category? Or am I just mostly red?

why does wanting to know my reason for being red put me in red? i dont see that in the criteria for being red.

If I could just take a squeegee and wipe these players off the glass doors of the shower we're all standing in right now, I would. They are convoluting critical discussion with worthlessness, things that don't make sense, general antics and craziness....or simply bad play! It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack, but these players were like "omg guys, let's replace every needle with a syringe of AIDS and maybe some cholera for good measure gg!". Done. Play better, please, for the sake of all of us.

And now you have your answer.

 

[Swiss]

DH logged off.

Wow.

 

[BSL]

the first one i was curious. how is it bad play? i wasnt going to argue with it.

and besides, both examples come from after you put me in red.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I'm alive people, it's just really hard to keep up with this thread.

About DH's role claim. DH's role seems legit, but it doesn't mean that he's not scum. His role seems more of a scum role than a town one. one of reasons I say that is because of the fact that he kills anyone who hammers him. (Only if he Role Blocks iirc). Doesn't seem like a pro-town role to me. And the townie restriction seems even more scummy.

I want more peoples oppinion before we do a lynch though.

 

[Cello_Marl]

We aren't lynching DH toDay.

I'll repeat that so we're ALL clear on that.

We AREN'T lynching DH toDay.

 

[BSL]

Wouldn't today be the best chance to keep the hammerer from dying?

 

[Cello_Marl]

People need to start unvoting DH.

I recommend voting for BSL or RPSI.

 

[Life]

So DH is a combination bomb/roleblocker. Interesting.

Roleblock claim is neutral in terms of town versus scum AFAIK. Bomb claim could be either an honest warning or trying to draw off a lynch. /self-WIFOM, nothing useful there.

But what IS of interest is the fact that next time we lynch a townie we can go after DH, but as long as we keep lynching scum we don't have to touch him. This makes him a good play toMorrow (if we lynch Town), but not worth the risk of being bombed (a blind vig shot at best, a free scum NK most likely) toDay. Sound fair?

Unvote

by the way. Still don't like Cello's "do what I say or else" tone, but I can tell there's no way I'll make progress based on that alone.

I'll be reviewing the thread for more.

 

[vanderzant]

We aren't lynching DH toDay.

I'll repeat that so we're ALL clear on that.

We AREN'T lynching DH toDay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzOBlPKZjxE

Why? I'd rather vote for incom/seph but either of those are fine.

 

[vanderzant]

Ninja'd by incom, but meant to quote Cello's #413.

 

[Cello_Marl]

First, we'll assume that DH didn't make up his role, something I think everyone can agree on. We WANT someone to die, BSL. That will put us to an odd number of people.

Assuming there are two kills per night from either vig or SK, we will go 16:13:10:7:4. With an additional kill from DH's hammer toMorrow or the Day after, we'll probably get to 16:12:9:6:3 or 16:13:9:6:3, which prevents scum from taking advantage of J in 4-person LyLo.

If there is just one, then it's 16:14:12:10:8:6:4. Same basic idea.

Besides, we can choose toMorrow's "lynch", and simply force that person to hammer DH. If they refuse, we lynch them normally and can continue to take advantage of DH's ability to counter-kill. That will get rid of DH AND scum. If we are planning on lynching DH anyway, we're giving ourselves a free additional lynch.

If we screw up and lynch town, we simply lynch someone that isn't DH until we DO hit scum.

 

[Xivii]

Swiss I meant tomorrow not toMorrow. I'm just so use to saying that and I was in a hurry.

 

[Cello_Marl]

But what IS of interest is the fact that next time we lynch a townie we can go after DH, but as long as we keep lynching scum we don't have to touch him.

...what? No. Invert this.

 

[BSL]

sounds like a plan, stan.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Guys, BSL agrees. Start voting for him.

@Vanderzant: I'll answer you in a bit, maybe. I might not. But I shall try.

 

[BSL]

oops.

unvote

i mean, dont lynch me. at least not D1.

 

[giraffelasergun]

oops.

unvote

i mean, dont lynch me. at least not D1.

Why does the day make a difference?

 

[BSL]

think about it.

 

[vanderzant]

BSL who do you want to lynch apart from yourself?

unvote vote: Seph

@Seph why do you think you were a maroon (sp?) colour and not a purple colour on MK's list?

 

[Life]

...what? No. Invert this.

What I meant was that we can safely lynch DH after the next time we lynch a townie.

I hadn't thought to abuse it for a second lynch.

Family wants me off computer for the night or I'd say more.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Incom's initial thought if he were scum would have been to accuse me of trying to get an additional townie kill.

 

[BSL]

BSL who do you want to lynch apart from yourself?

unvote vote: Seph

@Seph why do you think you were a maroon (sp?) colour and not a purple colour on MK's list?

DH. Umm.... No one else in particular.

rPSI because cello said he was the other option.

 

[vanderzant]

@InCom: No Cello's right, DH said that he can only use his power if we lynch scum.

Cello, he said he hadn't thought about it. Which I'd read as dodging but apparently he has to get off his computer. I'd like to hear what he means by "more" though.

 

[Tandora]

@tandora

I'll claim if more than a couple of people want me to. There's a chance you're scum and want to see whether I should be NK'd or not

Fair enough.

Roleblocker who kills the person who hammers him.

If I vote for a townie that gets lynched, I can't roleblock the next night and, if I get lynched, the person who hammers doesn't die (only for the following day and night)

I absolutely refuse to believe this power without a character claim. You give me a character claim that will match with what I know about my power and I might believe you. Otherwise, I must insist DH dies.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Cello, he said he hadn't thought about it.

That's my point. His initial reaction to my statement of using DH probably isn't the thought pattern of scum-InCom. He had 13 minutes to try to turn what I said against me, but he didn't.

 

[BSL]

Tandora, your power?

 

[vanderzant]

DH. Umm.... No one else in particular.

rPSI because cello said he was the other option.

Sorry I may have worded that question wrong. There are 14 other options apart from yourself and DH, pick like 2 of them and explain. You can't possibly have a town read on everyone apart from DH. And you don't have to choose Cello's options... >.<

 

[vanderzant]

That's my point. His initial reaction to my statement of using DH probably isn't the thought pattern of scum-InCom. He had 13 minutes to try to turn what I said against me, but he didn't.

I dunno, he seems pretty passive to me. I see where you're coming from. He says he doesn't like that you're bossy, but would he really try and flip what you said against you? Especially considering that if he's scum and he did, he'd have to deal with you on his back. Hmm, maybe. But I won't accept it as auto-town.

 

[Cello_Marl]

@Mod: Does a modkill count as a lynch for purposes of abilities that depend upon the alignment of the Day's lynch?

@Tanny: DH is going to be very shy about doing that after what happened to him in Castlevania, where Swiss got him modkilled for stating what color his role PM was written in.

@DH: The rules states that "You must paraphrase all information you wish to claim." You may still claim that information, you simply need to make sure it isn't a word for word copy of what is in your role PM. I shall give an inaccurate example. All you have to do is replace your character's name and description if appropriate.

"I'm Locke, the treasure hunter."

 

[#HBC | J]

@J - Stop playing Meta with BSL and GLG. You're lucky that I consider you town based right now.

Meta eh? Sorry I haven't even played a full game with either BSL or GLG. Lucky? I'm so fortunate Also got something for ya.

@ rPSI - "@J - Stop playing Meta with BSL and GLG. You're lucky that I consider you town based right now."

Care to elaborate. Would this normally be a scum tell? Why? How influential are you as a player?

Still waiting on this answer rPSI.

Well, J, you've gotten something from RPsi. Whatchu think?

I really do not see the reason for this. He just said this and then you come chiming along "Oh ho ho rPSI called you out; whatchu think?" A bit annoying.

J was this a RVS type vote or did you have a reason for voting GLG?

Of course it was....I thought that would have been obvious. I did not agree with the DH wagon but now that i've seen a little more from GLG hmmm I don't like my vote on him.

@Everyone who thinks J is auto-town for his restriction: does this change your mind? OS knows the game can be ruined by one bad player and I think its wrong to assume J is auto-town because of his 'kupo!' thing. Someone tell me what they think of J if they consider the restriction a null tell. Someone like Xastrn's opinion would be nice

Unvote
Vote: J

I think you need some more attention and we've got plenty of time

You can spend all your time on me and I wouldn't mind at all. Also I brought this up X1 by myself that people shouldn't consider me town because of my restriction. Kupo!

Ignoring the restriction, I'm fine with J living past toDay on meta alone.

Explain please why I should live. Meta; We have played one game together before, how can a full Meta be developed off of that if even MK does not have a meta on me and is in your same situation. I also have not done much at all. Probably near the bottom along with Seph/Incom. Vandy your acting weeeeird~

Way too much meta-concern about Kefka. Just do normal scum hunting for best results!

*high five* Seriously this chick has got it right. Why are we listening to Cello babble on about this Kefka thing when we should be scum-hunting? Reminds me of a pair of rabbit/bunny ears

You're ninja skills.

Aaaaah gotcha gotcha.

7. Tandora
9. J

These players are playing....nicely, at least moderately well at his point in time. Many accusations they make are rather true, or simply I share a viewpoint with these players on other players. They may have stated a few shaky things, but I'm more comfortable attributing this to the general antics of this game than a potential slip.

MK so you only find me and Tanny to be town? I have barely been here but apparantly you have liked what I've said? Does the restriction influence your thought process?

@J/Incom post please. You view the thread a lot without posting. Me no likey.

Policing inactives...hmm this seems weird from you. Idk what to think of it.

We aren't lynching DH toDay.

I'll repeat that so we're ALL clear on that.

We AREN'T lynching DH toDay.

You're really funny Cello. "Lynch DH now! I said so and we will lynch him toDay......wait! Changed my mind lemme just go pull some names out of a hat. BRB."

People need to start unvoting DH.

I recommend voting for BSL or RPSI.

"Bingo found my two names!" Seriously where the hell did these two come from? What happened to your X1-12 is obvscum read?

Yea also nice job picking two people from MK's red list...not liking you too much this game.

oops.

unvote

i mean, dont lynch me. at least not D1.

Your joking is going to be the death of you ;_;

I absolutely refuse to believe this power without a character claim. You give me a character claim that will match with what I know about my power and I might believe you. Otherwise, I must insist DH dies.

:O Tanny whatcha got for me? Don't claim or tell of your power. Now i'm curious to see what DH will say. Until then I'll go with you because you insist.

Unvote
Vote: Dark Horse

Also FoS: Vandy

Kupo! Kupo! Kupo! Kupo!

P.S. Sorry for the shortish post. Really just can't post that much on the cpu tonight ;-;

 

[BSL]

just sat down at the computer to answer vandy's question and from the looks of it, J did my work for me.

vandy, from what J says, and then MK. MK wont tell me why i am red and Swiss is helping him red zone me.

so there's 3. you, mK, and Swiss.

J, did you just not end with "kupo!" again?

and my unvote post that you quoted wasnt a joke.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

@Cello: I see why you would want to keep DH alive (at least for now). But couldn't scum just take advantage of the situation and get a townie killed?

Personally, I think the reward is greater than the risk, and we should implement your plan. but it's just food for thought.

unvote vote: Seph

@Seph why do you think you were a maroon (sp?) colour and not a purple colour on MK's list?

I would assume (and this is a big guess here) that it's because I don't post much.

 

[#HBC | J]

just sat down at the computer to answer vandy's question and from the looks of it, J did my work for me.

J, did you just not end with "kupo!" again?

and my unvote post that you quoted wasnt a joke.

BSL first off; DON'T FRIGGING SCARE ME LIKE THAT. Seriously I have been paranoid about the dag on useless kupo stuff for a while because I have already messed up twice and it just isn't helpful being your worst enemy ;-;. Anyways all I have to do is say Kupo! like so in every one of my posts. Also i'm not comfortable in you saying "he did my work for me" seems odd plus can you point out exactly what I did for you? And oh, I thought the letting you live past D1 thing was a joke. My bad there

Kupo! Kupo! Kupo!

 

[vanderzant]

Of course it was....I thought that would have been obvious. I did not agree with the DH wagon but now that i've seen a little more from GLG hmmm I don't like my vote on him.

Ok, was just wondering if it was a post based on meta you had on GLG, and you were trying to bait/provoke him. But it was just rvs, ok

Explain please why I should live. Meta; We have played one game together before, how can a full Meta be developed off of that if even MK does not have a meta on me and is in your same situation. I also have not done much at all. Probably near the bottom along with Seph/Incom. Vandy your acting weeeeird~

My most confident meta comes from the scum team from games where I have been town most recently (i.e. Pikmafia: Swiss/Zen, do a lesser degree swords; Villains: Gord, you, and to a lesser extent Dastrn.) and also because these games are fresh in my mind.

I'm obv not ruling you out as scum, but because I know how you play as scum I'm confident in letting you live past Day 1 without you going unnoticed. Think like how I was with MK in villains, I didn't know he was town (until Day 2) but he was never a play on Day 1 because I'd played with as town twice before. The odd mechanic has nothing to do with it.

Make sense? As close to a policy lynch on Day 1 I'll get is I'd rather lynch people who's meta I don't know.

Policing inactives...hmm this seems weird from you. Idk what to think of it.

Nah that's one of my scum tells for you personally. So many times in villains I'd see you view the thread but not post. It applies to other players as well, but not all scum (i.e. swiss wouldn't do this as scum.) It's a minor irk, which is why I haven't and don't intend to pursuit it toDay. Also because of what Cello said how you are not a threat till LYLO/MYLO.