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[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Why Cello as a play? I don't see justification. Is it because he said you're an idiot

Look at the post I quoted. He attacks zen and x1 for "trying to shift the attention". I consider that scummy.

 

[Swiss]

DH I just deleted an entire post against you (intentionally).

Answer this:

You sure? This is OS were talking about....

How much do you know about OS? How do you know what you do know?

 

[Swiss]

I shouldn't have deleted that post.

Talk to me about GLG and rPSI. Ignore Cello.

 

[Swiss]

Also, I was asking Zen that question, not you.

Multiposting is a scum tell

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Dark Horse... I haven't finished with it yet...

Then finish.

DH i certainly hope you're going to back up my scummy statements, especially since nothing changed since your last vote.

My point exactly. You had been acting scummy when I had previously voting for you.

The "Vote: rPSI" thing was just to prove i'm not kefka.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

How much do you know about OS? How do you know what you do know?

I was joking. However, you (@whoever the original point was addressing) shouldn't make statements such as that. Can you read the game mod's mind?

 

[Swiss]

In what way was what you said a joke?

"You sure? This is OS were talking about...."

I do not see this as a joke - I see it as a comment on the mod's meta.

Side note: It's probably a good thing no-one laughed though, no?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I've never played a game with OS molding before. Why should I talk about the mods meta?

That's how I figured most people would realize it a joke.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nabe who are you and why are you playing so scummy?

Kind of an odd question, since you can see my name like everyone else and, also like everyone else (save GLG) you know me from what I've said in the thread. So actual reasons for asking, as follows:

a) You're egotown and you think I'm some young **** trying to step on your turf. Cute.
b) You're scum. Check out the phrasing of your question and tell me how that's not an attempt at making me out to look like I should have no say.

Pretty sure it's a), but in the end the result is the same as b). Settle down.
I'm Nabe, nice to meet you.

It's like you're just riding what other are saying and a lot of what you're saying looks like you're just trying to look like you're doing something when you really aren't. I didn't like you're asking people what they thought of what you're doing, and asking useless questions like over Swiss self vote. And you're asking for a Tandora scum game was totally random for you to then say you just like reading games and don't even want it for meta. You're excuse, I believe was that you wanted to get an idea of people's personalities, but that's pretty much useless. I don't think you really had reason and are just saying things to be saying things and I'm good with you dying toDay. Plus the way you got on the DH wagon was crap.

I'll take this in the form of a full case with quotes, dear.

I'd settle for X1 as well.

I'm sure you'll provide fantastic insight into why.

Between you and rPSI, who seems to see me as that meta guy, should be an interesting game.

Get on me.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Because I didn't understand what he was saying until recently.

FoS: Cello

I find it scummy that you're keep trying to keep the attention on me.

I don't understand how asking you a questions is "keeping the attention on you"

My point exactly. You had been acting scummy when I had previously voting for you.

Alright, let me rephrase that statement. Which of my actions are scummy and why are they scummy?

I've never played a game with OS molding before. Why should I talk about the mods meta?

That's how I figured most people would realize it a joke.

Because most people assume a serious post without any other indication of a joke is a joke...

Anyway, FoS: Incom. In 293 he answered a question that wasn't directed toward him that he shouldn't have been answering and he quoted a huge post without having any reason to.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I don't understand how asking you a questions is "keeping the attention on you"

did you even read my post explaining why cello is trying to get all the attention.

Alright, let me rephrase that statement. Which of my actions are scummy and why are they scummy?

[odor=c65f62]When you asked what rmp meant. You would've known what it meant if you hadn't skimmed.

Also, you haven't really responded to it either.[/color]

Because most people assume a serious post without any other indication of a joke is a joke...

And...

What does that prove?

Anyway, FoS: Incom. In 293 he answered a question that wasn't directed toward him that he shouldn't have been answering and he quoted a huge post without having any reason to.[/QUOTE]

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

EBWOP ignore the part about Glg's Foson Incom. Forgot to delete it.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

224 - GLG: "I'll hammer DH". Why would you hammer when you can just *gasp* vote?
230 - Xat: I'll be keeping this in mind for later. At this point I find it peculiar that he had never revealed anything else atm. It seems like he's just trying to pull a gambit to me...
232 - MK: As much as I would like to say "lol parrot," at this point, I have trouble saying that it isn't in any shape or form true.
235 - GLG: lol skimming.
~Can we just drop random mud pies pl0x?
244 - Tanny: I'm glad that you made that post settling the RVS questions about the self-vote.
After that point I was here in the game. Now I can finally start playing the way I want to.
@Nabe - I don't really see you as that meta guy really. I just would appreciate you not referencing things I haven't read.

finished notes... notes Italicized so DH doesn't get those mistaken for me actually playing the game.

 

[giraffelasergun]

224 - GLG: "I'll hammer DH". Why would you hammer when you can just *gasp* vote?

1, so that I can make sure DH is actually lynched.
2, becuase most people are more willing to be in the middle of a wagon then be on the end of it.

@DH: Why is not reading everything=scum?

 

[BSL]

@Swiss: I assumed it was a random vote just to prove his non-kefka-ness.

If he doesn't back it up with reason, it won't have any effect(or is it affect?) on me.

I'll keep it in mind though, for later. Just in case.

 

[BSL]

GLG, skimming is scummy because scum doesn't need to scumhunt. Therefore they don't need to read everything.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

So you're saying that you're ready to end the day prematurely and going against the wishes of the people that want their votes to be pressure instead of killing? IMO that's just stupid to basically say, "I only want him dead." Votes should be used for pressure, especially when you're stating that early on. Saying that you'll hammer early on shows a complete different level of 'knowledge' about his alliance. Are you willing to say that DH is undoubtedly scum? Perhaps he could be a newbie townie? IDK if I could, which means I can't. But if you do know why he is scum, then please, do tell.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

@BSL - We all fall victim to not having enough time. IMO just because someone is skimming doesn't make them scum. It means someone needs to kick their butt a little bit and get them involved. As I would like to quote the crucible, "more weight". Eh?

 

[rPSIvysaur]

EBWOP: 337 was at 334 but I was ninja'd.

 

[BSL]

"Skimming is scummy", not "skimming means your scum"

Scummy!=scum

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Usually scummy means you find it to be scum-like. Unless I'm totally missing out on something.

 

[BSL]

You aren't.

Playing scummy doesn't mean your scum. Simple as that.

Being scum-like isn't being scum.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Sorry, I tend to associate scum-like as people thinking people are scum. Perhaps you could have just said bad play?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

BSL stole the words right outta my mouth.

Also, you haven't countered any statements said to you about you skimming, unless I missed a post.

 

[giraffelasergun]

So you're saying that you're ready to end the day prematurely and going against the wishes of the people that want their votes to be pressure instead of killing? IMO that's just stupid to basically say, "I only want him dead." Votes should be used for pressure, especially when you're stating that early on. Saying that you'll hammer early on shows a complete different level of 'knowledge' about his alliance. Are you willing to say that DH is undoubtedly scum? Perhaps he could be a newbie townie? IDK if I could, which means I can't. But if you do know why he is scum, then please, do tell.

Why would he be at l-1 if people only wanted him to be killed? And no, I'd only hammer if the town would be ready to end the day. I think DH is scum, yes, but I wouldn't say there is no chance of him being town.

@DH: The problem with RMP situation is when I saw incom use it in a sentence I thought it was one of those weird mafia terms(such as WIFOM or OMGUS) that isn't just commonly used.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I spent like three hours doing intensive reading of what had happened. I let you see the notes I took so you guys could at least start to understand my perspective in this game and DH interprets it at skimming. lol

 

[rPSIvysaur]

****ing being ninja'd like **** **** ****

I don't feel like working with you to figure out your circular logic right now GLG when I'm trying to scumhunt TBH.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Why would he be at l-1 if people only wanted him to be pressured? And no, I'd only hammer if the town would be ready to end the day. I think DH is scum, yes, but I wouldn't say there is no chance of him being town.

Fixed the above.

@Are-sigh, fair enough.

Also, @Bsl: Why did you answer for DH/

 

[BSL]

Its not like I answered something only he knew or fed him an answer.

It was a general mafia question. I didn't see any reason to not answer.

 

[BSL]

Oh, and rPSI. Bad play probably could replace scummy in this case.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I realized that now BSL, I was just trying to see if you were using it as a scumtell or just pointing out bad play. BTW everyone just call me rPSI (pronounced Are-Sigh, lol... plz capitalize it right too ;-

anyway here's what I really feel atm:
Right now DH is trying to play a scum hunting mimicking game where he plays "throw bait, throw rock, throw pokeball" This is an extreme nooby form of scum hunting and never leads to anything. This is why town is suspicious of him. It's the tell-tale signs of both newbie town and newbie scum. For this reason, we are having trouble discerning whether or not he is actually just a newbie mafia or newbie scum. This is detrimental to town, as in the case that we know it's a null read right now, but we also know it will ALWAYS be a null read as it will not develop. For this purpose I had declared him a neutral lead. However, when I had read Cello's case based on the facts and the events that had happened that he said "proved" DH to be scum as scum, it lead me to the disposition that DH is scum rather than town. I can tell right now, that I will not be able to get any other positive read on him... I'm positive about that, I feel that if DH is town, he won't be contributing, but rather relentlessly defending himself, giving scum a chance to hide behind him (trust me, it's simply too easy as a mafia member to do so). Or he's scum, and it's nice to get rid of those IMO. IDK if you feel the same way, but right now, DH is just a hinderance and as OS says in the OP, the weakest member can always bring you down.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Vote: Dork Horse

 

[Cello_Marl]

Then vote for him.

That took me one minute. I didn't change any of my views. (in reference to DH)

 

[Cello_Marl]

Ah, there it is.

Nimja.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I realized that now BSL, I was just trying to see if you were using it as a scumtell or just pointing out bad play. BTW everyone just call me rPSI (pronounced Are-Sigh, lol... plz capitalize it right too ;-

anyway here's what I really feel atm:
Right now DH is trying to play a scum hunting mimicking game where he plays "throw bait, throw rock, throw pokeball" This is an extreme nooby form of scum hunting and never leads to anything. This is why town is suspicious of him. It's the tell-tale signs of both newbie town and newbie scum. For this reason, we are having trouble discerning whether or not he is actually just a newbie mafia or newbie scum. This is detrimental to town, as in the case that we know it's a null read right now, but we also know it will ALWAYS be a null read as it will not develop. For this purpose I had declared him a neutral lead. However, when I had read Cello's case based on the facts and the events that had happened that he said "proved" DH to be scum as scum, it lead me to the disposition that DH is scum rather than town. I can tell right now, that I will not be able to get any other positive read on him... I'm positive about that, I feel that if DH is town, he won't be contributing, but rather relentlessly defending himself, giving scum a chance to hide behind him (trust me, it's simply too easy as a mafia member to do so). Or he's scum, and it's nice to get rid of those IMO. IDK if you feel the same way, but right now, DH is just a hinderance and as OS says in the OP, the weakest member can always bring you down.

*headdesks*

Absolutley nothing backing it up, and full of flaming. Lurking, then posting stuff like this? Unvote, Vote: rPSI

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I guess simply for your own learning purposes, I'll give examples of why you're playing bad. But they've been constantly pointed out throughout the entire game.

 

[vanderzant]

@Swiss: I dunno, my ScumSwissOddworld meta is only applicable from Day 2 onwards. I liked Nabe's answers, he's ok I guess. We'll see as the game progresses.

@Zen: Cello ain't a play. Dunno how much to trust your read on DH (lolololololol), but seriously I don't think I'm comfortable with anyone besides DH going at this stage.

I realized that now BSL, I was just trying to see if you were using it as a scumtell or just pointing out bad play. BTW everyone just call me rPSI (pronounced Are-Sigh, lol... plz capitalize it right too ;-

So I've been saying "are-pee-ess-eye" all this time and I'm wrong???!?!?!?!

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I guess simply for your own learning purposes, I'll give examples of why you're playing bad. But they've been constantly pointed out throughout the entire game.

And now you're parroting. Amazing.

 

[BSL]

@mod: requesting votecount.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Page 3 (assuming 40 PPP [or GTFO]... posts 81-120) you're extremely flippy-floppy about Cello. Simply showing you have no backbone so far or you have a scummate telling you something. It's pretty bad that you can't keep a stance and people press onward to interrogate you. Instead of cooperating you give responses such as

If you did die and flipped town, I would think cello is maf, and vote him/her/it. I wouldn't be blaming her for anything.

*headdesks*

@cello

To what would that accomplish? It isn't like I'm at L-1

These kind of scenarios show that you blatantly don't care that you have votes on you. That's bad, you should react to pressure. It should be a starting point for town to gather information on you, how you feel, how you change in game. Instead you leave us with horse manure to start of assessing you with. It's not something we want.

Er....wut? Where have I said "anyone who votes for me is scum"?Even what you quoted doesn't say "everyone who votes me=scum"

You had basically said that right here by voting for him:

Almist forgot

Vote: Cello

Unless this is your standard town play, ordering people around reeks of scum.

He puts you in a corner, therefore he's scum!
It's not quite a vote, but it's pretty OMGUS. And you're even OMGUSing me right now. That right there is you trying to invalidate my vote by pointing the finger back at me. That's not how it works.

My biggest problem with DH, and the real reason I'm more inclined to vote for him, is because he refuses to make a defense It's not simply the fact that he doesn't address points against him but he completelyyy disregards them and just trundles on. I think he's being coached by another scummate, but flounders when he can't get in touch with that scummate.

Unvote Vote: Dark Horse

This is pretty much how I feel about it.

Then most recently you had a "case" on me simply because I had posted my incomplete votes, even trying to use them go give reason enough to call me "just plain dumb".