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This is common knowledge. Putting it into practice/implementing it into ones game is something else, though. (As, when one is not able to pull this off consistently its effectiveness drops by aprroximately 99%, as it can put you in a dissadvantegous position when one screws up.).For all of you that believe Falcon can't speed hog, he can. I remember reading here a while ago that his speed made him unable to sweet spot the ledge and instead just fast fall below the stage. For the longest time I believed this to be true until I tried to see if I could find alternative ways to speed hog. The main one I tried was run off fastfall immediate reverse Raptor Boost, which was working. I was like "sweet! now I can't be a **** like everyone else!" One time though, I noticed I didn't RB and still did it. So I practiced and practiced till I eventually found out that Falcon can speed hog, you just have to go through the motion (slam down->roll thumb towards stage) about twice as fast as the rest of the cast.
The more you know.
Not quite. They're seperate boards for a reason.Brawl+ character boards? Do you mean in the Smash Workshop? Well I believe every character board should discuss their character in both Brawl+ and BBrawl. Don't you agree?
I wouldn't doubt it. Knee's a genius, and works hard in training mode to find stuff like this. I'm just hoping others will find some way to make this useful, if it becomes that useful at all.I think knee had something like this but it involved dair. As for rolling i'm pretty sure a footstool forces a stand up.
We're discussing it... where do you see a guide about it?footstool does force a standup.
this guide is outdated and wrong
your dumbi read the last few pages where pretty much nothing has been said.
it's common knowledge that a footstool forces a standup. i know there is an "infinite" on wario (he can escape iirc, but takes a lot of damage in the process). its pretty hard and not really practical anywhere but FD which wario will usually ban/strike. dont bother learning it. just GR knee.
fun falcon facts:
approach with uair and bair are not too terrible. they both push back sheilded opponents pretty far, making them almost safe approaches (lol).
after an fthrow at early %'s, people often spot dodge thinking you will attempt the pseudo CG. you could time a falcon dive to get them in the air, or wait and dashgrab or nair.
lots of falcons go for a knee offstage, usually flubbed. i find that uair is more effective. you can uair and if they airdodge it, FF or follow their movement and land the next uair. this works with knee too, but uair is another (better) option. falcons uair is an awesome move. use it all the time.
dont approach with nair. lots of falcons do this and it isnt safe at all. there are a lot of benefits to using nair, as it's a great combo starter, but it's way to easy to punish. use it as a suprise/punishing move.
use utilt when your opponent is on the edge. lots of times opponents will drop down and jump up to get back on the stage, so this move will often hit them. this isnt effective against certain characters like marth.
dont use usmash very often at all. its slow and very punishable. dsmash is falcon's only decent smash.
use uair more often.
also: change the part that says falcon is the worst character in the game. he's not. not even close.
No this is just wrong. Nair has no landing lag and this is why it is a good approach. People cannot punish you because when you use Nair as an approach you don't try to hit with it.dont approach with nair. lots of falcons do this and it isnt safe at all. there are a lot of benefits to using nair, as it's a great combo starter, but it's way to easy to punish. use it as a suprise/punishing move.
N-air can't get shield grabbed...your right i was thinking of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkv6zazgGH4
im an idiot. but its impractical anyway, no reason to argue.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=241992
Deez
so yes im better than you. your just a foolish troll who is on a power trip for no reason. have you ever contributed anything? no. so stfu. win something then well talk.
and nair gets sheild grabbed. your a *******
Pivot grab foolz, and trust me you can grab shield grab n-air, and you can definitely PS grab it. Its still a decent move but its no b-air/u-air in spacing, and pressure.N-air can't get shield grabbed...
To perform the ungrabable version of N-air continue to move behind your oppoenet.
It's simple.
..........Pivot grab foolz, and trust me you can grab shield grab n-air, and you can definitely PS grab it. Its still a decent move but its no b-air/u-air in spacing, and pressure.
lolyour right i was thinking of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkv6zazgGH4
im an idiot. but its impractical anyway, no reason to argue.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=241992
Deez
so yes im better than you. your just a foolish troll who is on a power trip for no reason. have you ever contributed anything? no. so stfu. win something then well talk.
and nair gets sheild grabbed. your a *******
Why the stab, P-3? I thought we were getting to be cool with each other...........
do you understand the concept of crossovers?
falcons air speed is high enough that can you nair through their shieild, and RUN away before anyone can pivot grab you
except maybe snake
PS grab of course
uair leaves you open as **** if you hit a shield
free dash grab
bair, yeah its ok but short characters can run under it
lol
i could easily be top 7 in GA if:
1- i used marth in tournaments instead of cf
2- i still played brawl
ive beaten people who have beaten reflex (not i-n-u-i logic, not saying im better than reflex <_<) in tournament with my marth, but i enjoy falcon too much to play marth more
i dont care enough about brawl to win
and yeah i have contributed alot
or tried to
but people on this board are too ****ing ******** to listen and insist that falcon kick is good and that
lol i wasnt stabbing at youWhy the stab, P-3? I thought we were getting to be cool with each other.
I <3 Falcon Kick, and really does work better than you would like to believe.
Other than that, yes, you've contributed, and you're good... to my knowledge.
GnW4L: I understand and agree with some of your concepts, but the Dsmash thing I don't agree with. It's great for roll and spot dodge punish, but I don't think it's the better one of the four. I think Usmash is his top smash, since you can combo it on missed techs and such. You can give it range through hyphen dashing, and can JC into it for more length.
I gotta agree with SS here, I use FK quite a bit and I barely get punished for it. Just don't be dumb and use it when: A. at low percents and B. when they're not in any type of lag.Why the stab, P-3? I thought we were getting to be cool with each other.
I <3 Falcon Kick, and really does work better than you would like to believe.
Other than that, yes, you've contributed, and you're good... to my knowledge.
GnW4L: I understand and agree with some of your concepts, but the Dsmash thing I don't agree with. It's great for roll and spot dodge punish, but I don't think it's the better one of the four. I think Usmash is his top smash, since you can combo it on missed techs and such. You can give it range through hyphen dashing, and can JC into it for more length.
Why do you only have 59 posts?lord read my post i agree with SS
not the other ppl
*facepalm*Why do you only have 59 posts?
@ P3: its hard to contribute when people act like mindless trolls and shoot down everything you say without much, if anything to back it, up isnt it? i realize i was wrong about one thing but **** man, give the trolling a rest. i'd like to at least attempt to discuss things with legit falcon mains, not some **** on a power trip who isnt good at/doesnt play brawl. i dont care how good you COULD be, you're not, so dont act like it. you arent better than anyone, so please stop acting like your good. now, lets move on and stop being ***** because i will always win in the *** hole wars...........
do you understand the concept of crossovers?
falcons air speed is high enough that can you nair through their shieild, and RUN away before anyone can pivot grab you
except maybe snake
PS grab of course
uair leaves you open as **** if you hit a shield
free dash grab
bair, yeah its ok but short characters can run under it
lol
i could easily be top 7 in GA if:
1- i used marth in tournaments instead of cf
2- i still played brawl
ive beaten people who have beaten reflex (not i-n-u-i logic, not saying im better than reflex <_<) in tournament with my marth, but i enjoy falcon too much to play marth more
i dont care enough about brawl to win
and yeah i have contributed alot
or tried to
but people on this board are too ****ing ******** to listen and insist that falcon kick is good and that
It has broken horizontal range.I also don't like the hitbox on usmash. It doesn't have much horizontal range, so IMO it's pretty hard to land.
It goes very long with Hyphen Smash, but it still is not easy to land because in the initial part of the slide it doesn't hit. CF's DACUS actually shortens it, but it also means it's easier to hit with it from closer distances.Falcons u-smash has a broken hitbox. :|
In all honesty it's underused. 20-22% damage if both hits land, wich isn't all that rare. It's fast, it's not as laggy as his other smashes. Legit.
Btw it has a broken hitbox
It has broken horizontal range.
*leaves*