Superbat
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Bottom of mid tier. Bias aside, most likely low tier.
Miss the Brawl and Melee Glory days man
Miss the Brawl and Melee Glory days man
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Pazx
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man these boards are so organised
why dont we see more falcos in tournaments
why dont we see more falcos in tournaments
gameplayzero
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He struggles a lot against the high tiers (and thats what tournies are filled with). I use him in tournies, but they dont stream. People who want to win first and foremost aren't going to want to use him.
People expect him to play like brawl falco and are disappointed that he isnt and dont want to readjust to the new falco.
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Check this thread for tournament representation: http://smashboards.com/threads/falcos-tournament-representation.374263/.
Well, when your character is largely ignored in the metagame, has nothing to irritate people other than, "Man, Falco sucks as a character. I'm using Fox from now on", and having a small community, the boards end up quiet and methodical.
A question everyone wants to know. I bet even Brawl Ganondorf had more reps in the beginning.
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gameplayzero
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Didnt know there was a thread for that. Thank the heavens falco is getting some tourney love.
Gamegenie222
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Cause Falco players are paying for his sins for 2 games straight of shooting people in the junk, laser locking, pillaring, dairing people till a character's face becomes his boot stand, chaingrabbing folks and other dumb stuff we did to people etc etc. He does have problems against the top tiers like @
gameplayzero
said like Rosaluma for example, Shiek, IDK about Diddy post patch along with ZSS and Sonic and some of his issues. I play him in tourney as well and made my local scene believe he's solid mid and some picked him up and tinker with him on the side with the way I play but I think you gonna play Falco you need to have a secondary just in case. You have to repent for you sins before every tourney to do some damage and play smart Falco is honest.Pretty much and Ganondorf had quite a few people in the beginning of the brawl era but alot dropped him for tourneys and in the first 2 brawl tier list for NA Falcon was considered the worst. Ganon players were dedicated as hell though and love their character and how could you lmao. Falco had quite a few people playing him as well throughout the history of brawl.
Superbat
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Nah son he still bodies us. From a 70:30 to a 65:35
gameplayzero
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Falco and Marth are just drinking some beers reflecting on the good times they had being top tiers.
Daired to be great, but just can shine to the occasion. You will not be forgotten. The only main top melee characters not get buffed while every other melee top tier is good/great again.
Gamegenie222
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Isn't that an overstretch LMAO? I can see 6-4 and 63-35 at times but 7-3?Nah son he still bodies us. From a 70:30 to a 65:35
I also play Marth as well in melee alongside Falco, regretting not putting serious time into him during Brawl era and use him in smash 4 with Lucina, Robin and Bowser he is another sinner but you have to be percise with him and don't whiff cause his frame data screws him over though. At least he does solid vs Rosalina.
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gameplayzero
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I like marth in this game even though he is sluggish now (same with falco). Its always fun to hear your opponents yell when you hit them with a tipper lol. The whole game just freezes and says "you done good kid" as they die at 50% close to the edge of the stage.
Gamegenie222
Space Pheasant Dragon Tactician
As they should lol just don't whiff and that hitbox is precise as heck. At least they are a abundance of Marth players in tourney but always get weeded out before top 8
gameplayzero
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Where is Mr.E when you need him? Haven't heard much from lately.As they should lol just don't whiff and that hitbox is precise as heck. At least they are a abundance of Marth players in tourney but always get weeded out before top 8
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So much captioned swearing and air horns, but it's hilarious! There are some neat tricks like the Dtilt at the ledge since Falco's got a disjoint on that. It's the closest thing we have to Alpharad's How to 101. NSFW because of swear words on the screen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay2hmJq91Q8.
Edit: Someone needs to make a gif of 0:20! It's For Glory in a nutshell.
Edit: Someone needs to make a gif of 0:20! It's For Glory in a nutshell.
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After playing Wolf on Brawl again after a while at a friend's, I'm convinced that Sm4sh Falco was made to replace Wolf. The slow movement, extra weight, and back air are all too similar. Obviously Falco retained some of his classic attacks, but the character as a whole is Sm4sh Wolf. Shouldn't a bird be fast?
Except Falco is way lighter than Wolf and his forward and neutral airs leave a lot to be desired in neutral and disadvantage.
Does anyone have a name for the angle on stages like Smashville where Falco can't recover? If you go up you won't have enough horizontal distance, if you go diagonally you'll go under the stage.
Does anyone have a name for the angle on stages like Smashville where Falco can't recover? If you go up you won't have enough horizontal distance, if you go diagonally you'll go under the stage.
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Of the three Star Fox characters, Fox, Falco, and Wolf, we have these attributes:
Fox
Falco
Wolf
Long-winded explanation of stuff here. Long story short, Falco was never meant to play Wolf's game and he isn't, but the issues of Blaster, having Wolf's Bair / losing a hitbox on Bair, and having the same startup as Wolf, Captain Falcon, and Ganondorf's Dair do hurt him even if he gains a sick looking Bair and powerful spike, but a soft spike would have been interesting on Falco. It's also why I'm curious about Falco having King's Tornado Kick if his old Bair was only replaced because it looked "bad" and "clunky" compared to Wolf's Bair. Seriously, his current Up Smash is beautifully animated and in Brawl, he did look a bit strange at times since he might have literally had his moves copied and animated like in Melee. Even then, they could have polished the animation. There's also this image which makes me feel like Falco had his old Bair, but it was replaced in the final build like how Luigi had a wall jump in the early builds.
So, what do we make of this? Well, let's start with their designs. Let's also ignore wavedashing, chaingrabbing, etc., since Fox and Falco were broken in Melee and Brawl too for Falco while Wolf was hurt by Brawl's mechanics. Fox is intended to be a rushdown character, especially after gaining a rapid-fire damage-only Blaster in Melee. By design, he rushes in, deals damage by racking up percents, and kills with burst kill moves like Up Smash, Uair, and Bair that are all relatively fast moves and really strong moves when you consider what kind of character he is. There's a high risk and high reward system he works with and Fox's tools and attributes allows him to pressure hard with raw speed and sometimes raw power. Fox is also a zone breaker because tacking on damage with Blaster adds up forcing people to go into zones they don't like and because of his Reflector. By rushing in, Fox breaks the zone zoners want to keep.
Falco in Melee seemed to be a zoner, but Brawl seemed to have step towards him being an anti-zoner, but because the fact Blaster auto-canceled in those games, he was more of a zoner instead of an anti-zoner. In SSB4, it seems his intended design was to be an anti-zoner as his Blaster interrupts, Reflector has range and trips, and Falco's up close game disrupts zoners who can't match his speed and he overpowers them as well. He was meant to counter zoners not by rushing in and zone breaking like Fox, but more methodically.
Wolf seems to be his own beast. So, while he can anti-zone like Falco because of his disrupting Blaster, his air speed and Wolf Flash's angle makes it seem like he's an anti-air fighter, but his advancing and well-ranged melee moves like jab combo, Side Smash, Dtilt, and Down Smash sort of makes him seem like a beserker character who powers through everything which considering Reflector's intangibility frames, Wolf might have been intended to be a savage fighter.
Their designs are all unique, so if we say, swap some stuff from Wolf to Fox, we end up with clashing designs. So, while Fox could use a spike like Wolf's Dair, it wouldn't really flow since he falls so fast and he's so light, going for spikes are dangerous and without a quick Dair to quickly challenge below him or rack up damage. His mediocre air speed wouldn't help either since Wolf, like Captain Falcon, can glide on over with air speed along and spike you while Fox might need a running start. At the same time, Fox has good ground mobility which means he can rush in and spike while Wolf makes use of his air speed to spike. So, swapping stuff between them might not be all that bad.
Falco, unfortunately, is kind of messed up design-wise. First off, this isn't a platformer, so his awesome jump height isn't that great when his air speed, and running speed are bad. You can't walk everywhere and jumping only gets him high up. It could be fixed, but how is the question. If you give him better air speed, then he could be a monster in the air. Imagine if he had Wolf's air speed which by the way was tied with Wario's in Brawl. A character who can jump that high and cover that much horizontal and air distance would be insane since barely anyone except for Brawl Meta Knight at times. Giving him faster running speed might be a better option. Nothing insane like giving him Bowser's, but something like Samus's or the Pits would be fine. Those, however, only address his movement issues which he might not need to care for it not for how Blaster functioned.
So, in 64, Fox's Blaster shot once and was holstered like Wolf's Blaster. In Melee, it was "brought" back for Falco, but Falco could continually fire it and auto-cancel it. That was the major issue which made his Blaster too good in Melee while in Brawl, the added distance, increased rate of fire, and faster laser travel speed make it outright broken. At the same time, there was another issue: end lag. Since nobody really bothered to shot it normally, the end lag stayed the same since Melee; it was always in the upper 50s for the grounded Blaster and 40s for the aerial Blaster. Those two broke Blaster into being horribly good and horribly bad. Fox's Blaster starting in Melee wasn't a problem because of the lack of stun, so it could have a faster startup and shorter end lag and it wouldn't matter much unless it was extreme like fire at frame 1, 10 frames of end lag, and it fired faster than a SMG. Falco's to function well as an anti-zoner needs something to anti-zone with other than Reflector: his own projectile which is Blaster. Blaster needs less end lag, but not so much where it's broken. Fire one shot with Fox, Falco, and Wolf's and you'll notice the difference in end lag. Do this with Luigi and Falco too. Wolf's end lag could be transferred to Falco and it would be fine as it's not too slow nor too fast which then again, auto-canceling was instant. The issue isn't about Falco firing too many lasers which he should have never been able to do in Brawl or even Melee, but his safety with Blaster. It's not even about distance or travel speed, but purely safety. Wolf had a bayonet to cover him if he fires too closely while Falco doesn't and has to deal with even more end lag. If Falco had just 10 frames less end lag on Blaster, it would already make it safer.
There's also the deal with Dair being frame 5 and a spike, but they could have easily made it spike way weaker or just not allow it spike at all and make it some other move or work differently like make it so it sends people horizontally. I don't know, do something that doesn't just rip the frames of Wolf, Captain Falcon, and Ganondorf's because theirs work. Wolf Bair on Falco is just asking for trouble as Fox and Wolf have their Nair to protect them while Falco had Bair to protect him. Now he doesn't as Wolf's Bair which was Wolf's original move lacks a front hitbox which is something Falco needs as his Nair doesn't have good range or knockback to function as a get off me attack and he doesn't have Wolf, Captain Falcon, or Ganondorf's durability or Wolf and Captain Falcon's air speed to get out. Falco ended up losing his original Bair since Fox gained a reverse whip kick for his Bair in Brawl. They all had unique Bairs in Brawl, why give Falco someone else's? Not only does it destroy the originality of Wolf's Bair now as two characters have it and potentially, Wolf can come back with this Bair too making Falco semi-clone of Wolf in the loosest term, but it destroys the safety of a character already plagued by his air speed and fast fall speed.
Falco in Melee seemed to be a zoner, but Brawl seemed to have step towards him being an anti-zoner, but because the fact Blaster auto-canceled in those games, he was more of a zoner instead of an anti-zoner. In SSB4, it seems his intended design was to be an anti-zoner as his Blaster interrupts, Reflector has range and trips, and Falco's up close game disrupts zoners who can't match his speed and he overpowers them as well. He was meant to counter zoners not by rushing in and zone breaking like Fox, but more methodically.
Wolf seems to be his own beast. So, while he can anti-zone like Falco because of his disrupting Blaster, his air speed and Wolf Flash's angle makes it seem like he's an anti-air fighter, but his advancing and well-ranged melee moves like jab combo, Side Smash, Dtilt, and Down Smash sort of makes him seem like a beserker character who powers through everything which considering Reflector's intangibility frames, Wolf might have been intended to be a savage fighter.
Their designs are all unique, so if we say, swap some stuff from Wolf to Fox, we end up with clashing designs. So, while Fox could use a spike like Wolf's Dair, it wouldn't really flow since he falls so fast and he's so light, going for spikes are dangerous and without a quick Dair to quickly challenge below him or rack up damage. His mediocre air speed wouldn't help either since Wolf, like Captain Falcon, can glide on over with air speed along and spike you while Fox might need a running start. At the same time, Fox has good ground mobility which means he can rush in and spike while Wolf makes use of his air speed to spike. So, swapping stuff between them might not be all that bad.
Falco, unfortunately, is kind of messed up design-wise. First off, this isn't a platformer, so his awesome jump height isn't that great when his air speed, and running speed are bad. You can't walk everywhere and jumping only gets him high up. It could be fixed, but how is the question. If you give him better air speed, then he could be a monster in the air. Imagine if he had Wolf's air speed which by the way was tied with Wario's in Brawl. A character who can jump that high and cover that much horizontal and air distance would be insane since barely anyone except for Brawl Meta Knight at times. Giving him faster running speed might be a better option. Nothing insane like giving him Bowser's, but something like Samus's or the Pits would be fine. Those, however, only address his movement issues which he might not need to care for it not for how Blaster functioned.
So, in 64, Fox's Blaster shot once and was holstered like Wolf's Blaster. In Melee, it was "brought" back for Falco, but Falco could continually fire it and auto-cancel it. That was the major issue which made his Blaster too good in Melee while in Brawl, the added distance, increased rate of fire, and faster laser travel speed make it outright broken. At the same time, there was another issue: end lag. Since nobody really bothered to shot it normally, the end lag stayed the same since Melee; it was always in the upper 50s for the grounded Blaster and 40s for the aerial Blaster. Those two broke Blaster into being horribly good and horribly bad. Fox's Blaster starting in Melee wasn't a problem because of the lack of stun, so it could have a faster startup and shorter end lag and it wouldn't matter much unless it was extreme like fire at frame 1, 10 frames of end lag, and it fired faster than a SMG. Falco's to function well as an anti-zoner needs something to anti-zone with other than Reflector: his own projectile which is Blaster. Blaster needs less end lag, but not so much where it's broken. Fire one shot with Fox, Falco, and Wolf's and you'll notice the difference in end lag. Do this with Luigi and Falco too. Wolf's end lag could be transferred to Falco and it would be fine as it's not too slow nor too fast which then again, auto-canceling was instant. The issue isn't about Falco firing too many lasers which he should have never been able to do in Brawl or even Melee, but his safety with Blaster. It's not even about distance or travel speed, but purely safety. Wolf had a bayonet to cover him if he fires too closely while Falco doesn't and has to deal with even more end lag. If Falco had just 10 frames less end lag on Blaster, it would already make it safer.
There's also the deal with Dair being frame 5 and a spike, but they could have easily made it spike way weaker or just not allow it spike at all and make it some other move or work differently like make it so it sends people horizontally. I don't know, do something that doesn't just rip the frames of Wolf, Captain Falcon, and Ganondorf's because theirs work. Wolf Bair on Falco is just asking for trouble as Fox and Wolf have their Nair to protect them while Falco had Bair to protect him. Now he doesn't as Wolf's Bair which was Wolf's original move lacks a front hitbox which is something Falco needs as his Nair doesn't have good range or knockback to function as a get off me attack and he doesn't have Wolf, Captain Falcon, or Ganondorf's durability or Wolf and Captain Falcon's air speed to get out. Falco ended up losing his original Bair since Fox gained a reverse whip kick for his Bair in Brawl. They all had unique Bairs in Brawl, why give Falco someone else's? Not only does it destroy the originality of Wolf's Bair now as two characters have it and potentially, Wolf can come back with this Bair too making Falco semi-clone of Wolf in the loosest term, but it destroys the safety of a character already plagued by his air speed and fast fall speed.
There's also this funny thing about Fox, Falco, and Wolf and Star Fox biological info. To summarize: Falco's slightly heavier and taller than Wolf, but in Smash, Wolf's really heavy while Falco is pretty much a lightweight.
gameplayzero
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Guys I'm pretty scared. If Ryu and Roy are in the same game I don't think I can handle smash 4. I love everything about falco in every game and stairfax but like……roy is my boy and street fighter is like my favorite fighting game.
As much as I love roy to death, I just want his move set changed IF he is in. Having two clones is rather ridiculous. I won't drop falco though. I want to prove that he isn't garbage like a lot of people think he is.
As much as I love roy to death, I just want his move set changed IF he is in. Having two clones is rather ridiculous. I won't drop falco though. I want to prove that he isn't garbage like a lot of people think he is.
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I kind of wished we could talk about more than just Falco and his gameplay; this is a thread for us to hang out and talk about stuff and not be all serious. Anyway, this might never happen, but I might want to try my hand at animating. So, something like a "flipbook", but making it into a gif meaning it won't have the flipping part. And I kind of want to mess with Falco's moveset; I've been wondering what it would look like if he had a quick draw for Blaster, a reversed version of King's Tornado Kick for a Bair, and a Gentleman.
They'd look like this from Castlevania: Lords of Shadow and it's one of my favorite things about the Lords of Shadows games. The simplicity and the style just looks cool to me.
On another note, has anyone noticed that Falco's red alt looks a bit like Captain Falcon's Blood Falcon alt in Smash 4? They both have green scarves, pinkish shinguards, and well, red. The differences are the shades of the color and maybe rendering since Falco's portrait has him with a lime green scarf, but in game on the 3DS, it's more of a light green. Still, considering Falco's name, it could be a pun for him to be Blood Falco.
They'd look like this from Castlevania: Lords of Shadow and it's one of my favorite things about the Lords of Shadows games. The simplicity and the style just looks cool to me.
On another note, has anyone noticed that Falco's red alt looks a bit like Captain Falcon's Blood Falcon alt in Smash 4? They both have green scarves, pinkish shinguards, and well, red. The differences are the shades of the color and maybe rendering since Falco's portrait has him with a lime green scarf, but in game on the 3DS, it's more of a light green. Still, considering Falco's name, it could be a pun for him to be Blood Falco.
gameplayzero
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I'm a sucker for animations. Would make my day if you could do this. You'd probably be recognized for doing something like this actually. And if not you should be recognized (as long as the animation is decent haha). Otherwise you'd be recognized for all of the wrong reasons. We should just think of moves that should replace falcos normal move set like you already did. Would be fun.I kind of wished we could talk about more than just Falco and his gameplay; this is a thread for us to hang out and talk about stuff and not be all serious. Anyway, this might never happen, but I might want to try my hand at animating. So, something like a "flipbook", but making it into a gif meaning it won't have the flipping part. And I kind of want to mess with Falco's moveset; I've been wondering what it would look like if he had a quick draw for Blaster, a reversed version of King's Tornado Kick for a Bair, and a Gentleman.
They'd look like this from Castlevania: Lords of Shadow and it's one of my favorite things about the Lords of Shadows games. The simplicity and the style just looks cool to me.
On another note, has anyone noticed that Falco's red alt looks a bit like Captain Falcon's Blood Falcon alt in Smash 4? They both have green scarves, pinkish shinguards, and well, red. The differences are the shades of the color and maybe rendering since Falco's portrait has him with a lime green scarf, but in game on the 3DS, it's more of a light green. Still, considering Falco's name, it could be a pun for him to be Blood Falco.
Idk how I missed that considering blood falcon is my favorite alt. I'll check that out a bit later.
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Well, I'm at a point in my life where I have no idea what I want to do and I'm in college, so yeah. Kind of want something fun to do over the summer and basically something to explore. I like art and I like martial arts, so I guess animation would be cool like being able to animate how a character moves and even if it's not with people, animation like fluids are pretty wicked. The water physics Nintendo has done is amazing and in fun like in Super Mario Galaxy and 3D World. It's all jelly-like.
I've been using Falco's red alt a lot lately and I don't know why, but after using it a while and playing with Captain and switching alts every match, I noticed the similarities between Falco's red alt and Captain Falcon's Blood Falcon alt which apparently isn't exactly like Blood Falcon's since Blood Falcon has a yellow scarf. There's also the tiny details like how the Blood Falcon alt actually has Blood Falcon's symbol on Captain Falcon's back instead of the usual Captain Falcon symbol while Lucina's cape does change symbols for her Tiki alt and I think Marth's might as well, but I don't play as Marth a lot while Lucina has a trophy in her Tiki alt.
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I miss his brown jacket that he had for his black, dark, crow Falco alt in Brawl. It would have been cool if they kept it and made that alt into a bomber Falco alt to go along with classic pilot Falco. Bomber jackets were always cool to me. But yeah, Falco's rocking purple pants, various scarves, various lens for his scouter, gold-, pink-, neon green-, copper-, and onyx-plated shinguards.
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I was going to do animation, but something came up. I still adore and study it though it isn't my major. My favorite part about studying it was watching this looney toons documentary on how it came to be. The animation just blended in and made the comedy what is. Looney toons is just something anyone could watch at any age and it would STILL would be entertaining to them. Plus its so just so hilarious. I'm not saying this because you are a daffy fan, but just because its left a huge impression on me. It was ahead of its time. Nintendo's animation is just amazing.
I always ask myself this and can never decide on my main falco alt or favorite. Where ever falco and fox shop, I need to know.
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ParanoidAndroid
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Yeah I have a hard time choosing a alt color, all his outfits are on point in Sm4sh. I was actually looking over my SNES manual for Starfox yesterday and noticed how creepy Falco looked. I'm glad they got rid of the gloves, but I do miss the robotic legs.
Superbat
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I used to be all black everything with his costume but the blue and purplish one grew on me. I feel like the burd warriors have the best costumes in the game.
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There isn't. The Sheik, Pikachu, and I believe the ZSS board have Skype groups which have decreased activity on their boards and move most of it to the Skype groups. If you want, you can start one, but I'm probably not going to join just 'cause. Anyway, if you do, if you can, try and archive or copy stuff from there. The thing about forums is stuff is archived, so if someone talks about Falco's Blaster, it's there permanently and people can look it up whenever. I don't think you can do that with Skype unless you record stuff which would mean you have to ask people's permission.
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Not related to Falco competitive discussion..
Anyone looking forward to Star Fox U? I hope there is an "On-foot" mode that allows you to switch between Star Fox members.
Anyone looking forward to Star Fox U? I hope there is an "On-foot" mode that allows you to switch between Star Fox members.
ParanoidAndroid
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I'm interested in seeing what the new Star Fox has to offer. There has been no details on it since last E3. We've had a ton of Splatoon details and that game was said to be only 10% into development E3 2014. Makes me wonder if they have something up their sleeve for this game...
The last "on-foot" Star Fox game I played was Adventures and I can't remember it too well. I missed Assault because my GameCube broke right when it was released, and I just kind of forgot about it.
The last "on-foot" Star Fox game I played was Adventures and I can't remember it too well. I missed Assault because my GameCube broke right when it was released, and I just kind of forgot about it.
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Star Fox 64 also had on-foot gameplay that was kind of funny looking with their Blasters looking like bazookas. Star Fox Adventures wasn't supposed to be a Star Fox game; it was supposed to be its own IP, Dinosaur Planet, using Ocarina of Time as inspiration, but it took a bit long which lead it being developed for the GCN from the N64. Dinosaur Planet was considered for a Donkey Kong game and then Star Fox by Nintendo and there were lots of beta elements, scrapped elements, and such since it was Rare's last game before moving to Microsoft. One thing relating to Falco was that Falco was supposed to show up and fight with Fox against General Scales who was supposed to have a boss fight. Fox would have fought with a staff and magic, but Falco? What would he have done? Nobody knows.
Assault's on-foot gameplay, although, I never played the 64's on-foot gameplay, seemed to be an evolution of it and it was just an on-foot and more "freer" movement compared to the Landmaster and even the Arwing. Nothing special, but nothing bad about it. Probably my favorite part since you could see the pilots out of their vehicles.
Assault's on-foot gameplay, although, I never played the 64's on-foot gameplay, seemed to be an evolution of it and it was just an on-foot and more "freer" movement compared to the Landmaster and even the Arwing. Nothing special, but nothing bad about it. Probably my favorite part since you could see the pilots out of their vehicles.
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I didn't know 64 had on-foot game play that could be unlocked lol. I only ever got 2 medals. When playing the VS mode I always tried to be player 4 so I could be
Falco. If anyone is interested there is a article on the cancelled Star Fox 2 game for SNES on Nintendo Life. It's a decent size article so I haven't read it yet.
Falco. If anyone is interested there is a article on the cancelled Star Fox 2 game for SNES on Nintendo Life. It's a decent size article so I haven't read it yet.
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I'm pretty hype for Star Fox U
Haven't played many Star Fox games though
I'm pretty hype for Star Fox U
Haven't played many Star Fox games though
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yep looks like i use this garbage* character now, quick someone help me catch up on 8 months of metagaming
*disclaimer: i do not actually think falco is garbage and am genuinely interested in seeing what you guys have been up to. IMO if falco had faster air/walk/run speed (pick 1), a hybrid between his brawl bair and his current one, and lasers that aren't godawful he'd be a top 10 character easily but i can work with him the way he is
*disclaimer: i do not actually think falco is garbage and am genuinely interested in seeing what you guys have been up to. IMO if falco had faster air/walk/run speed (pick 1), a hybrid between his brawl bair and his current one, and lasers that aren't godawful he'd be a top 10 character easily but i can work with him the way he is
Gamegenie222
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LMAO have you repented for you sins first? Also I'm still working on his bad MU's myself I been using Rosalina only lately as Im trying to learn her myself and when I have to fight that MU as Falco.
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Watch this montage and learn the ways of Falco: https://youtu.be/OcMqjmiv_JA.
Or watch the latest stuff from the Falco video thread. Pawclaw just uploaded these two from a tournament in March. Pawclaw vs. Zoronoa's Mega Man & Rosalina: https://youtu.be/_pHzsb1kFk0, and vs. TAG's Meta Knight: https://youtu.be/-YqxndzsrGM.
To sum up Falco's metagame as of now... Space well with all of his moves, particularly his Ftilt and Dtilt, Utilt and Up Smash can combo into themselves early on, Utilt can scoop people up near the ledge, don't use Up Smash below Battlefield's platforms since it'll likely whiff the second hit - it's a bit shorter than Utilt -, D-throw to Dash Attack isn't completely true as it can be teched, so go for RAR Bair if you can, Falco can sort of Gatling combo at early percents, U-throw to Uair at early percents combo while at higher percents, it's a kill if you read the DI, use Fair for gimps and be careful about using it on-stage since the landing lag is really bad, F-throw to Falco Phantasm, Fast Fire Bird, and Dash Attack all work at low percents, jab mixups work with Falco, but not as well as Fox, Sheik, and Triple D's, Uair has low landing lag, auto-cancels, and has a body hitbox with low knockback that basically acts like a hit confirm and even if it's air dodged, Falco can Bair almost immediately after Uair, this also makes Uair somewhat of an approach, and Falco's walking speed is barely slower than his run speed, so he can get away with walking more than running unlike other characters like Captain Falcon. There's probably more that I missed.