Fact 54 - Mewtwo Is On The Way [Social/General Discussion]

[LoveGame]

So, I haven't gotten it in the game myself but I have seen somewhere that Mewtwo had a trophy in the 3DS version. Is this true?

Yeah, it's one of the trophies you can get randomly.

 

[Masonomace]

Mmm, whatcha saa-aay
Mmm, that you only meant well, well of course you did


BUT WHEN THE ROOF CAVED IN AND THE TRUTH CAME OUT YOU JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO

Oddly I like the original better then Jason Derulo.

Mewtwo & I were jamming to it a week ago.

 

[Modular Zeal]

Yeah, it's one of the trophies you can get randomly.

AWESOME!!!! I wasn't completely sure!!! so, this does mean return of Lucas, Ice Climber, etc.!!!

 

[U-Throw]

AWESOME!!!! I wasn't completely sure!!! so, this does mean return of Lucas, Ice Climber, etc.!!!

I doubt it. I don't think trophies don't mean anything unless they have exceptionally strong evidence in their description. Mewtwo's trophy didn't confirm nor deconfirm him, so I wouldn't say trophies automatically confirm or deconfirm a character unless strong evidence is there.

 

[LoveGame]

Oddly I like the original better then Jason Derulo.

Mewtwo & I were jamming to it a week ago.

Hah, most people do. They're both sweet jams in their own rights! I just thought adding in that line from Derulo's version kept the joke going even further. *sings in autotune*

 

[LoveGame]

I doubt it. I don't think trophies don't mean anything unless they have exceptionally strong evidence in their description. Mewtwo's trophy didn't confirm nor deconfirm him, so I wouldn't say trophies automatically confirm or deconfirm a character unless strong evidence is there.

Yeah, that's true. It does give them at least some hope, however. I'd love to see Wolf!

 

[U-Throw]

Yeah, that's true. It does give them at least some hope, however. I'd love to see Wolf!

Of course! I didn't mean to insinuate that they wouldn't return, just that the trophies probably hardly meant anything. Seeing the Ice Climbers, even if they're Wii U exclusive, would be awesome, as would Wolf and Lucas.

 

[LoveGame]

By the way i feel like doing this someday

Unlock as may stuff as possible with mewtwo in melee for a celebration of his return (also to practice with him just in case his moveset is identical to melee extremely buffed ofcoarse in ssb4)

Good idea! I did a no-death run of Classic on Very Hard with Mewtwo. The constant rain of items didn't make things easier...

 

[Modular Zeal]

I doubt it. I don't think trophies don't mean anything unless they have exceptionally strong evidence in their description. Mewtwo's trophy didn't confirm nor deconfirm him, so I wouldn't say trophies automatically confirm or deconfirm a character unless strong evidence is there.

Well, i guess i worded that wrong. Meant to say there was still a chance for them, because when I first saw Ice Climbers, Lucas, and Wolf's trophies I thought it officially deconfirmed their return.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Mmm, whatcha saa-aay
Mmm, that you only meant well, well of course you did


BUT WHEN THE ROOF CAVED IN AND THE TRUTH CAME OUT YOU JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO

 

[U-Throw]

Well, i guess i worded that wrong. Meant to say there was still a chance for them, because when I first saw Ice Climbers, Lucas, and Wolf's trophies I thought it officially deconfirmed their return.

Ah! I see. Well, then in that case, its good news for you! Having a trophy hardly deconfirms a character! Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[LoveGame]

By the way, I'm loving everyone's new Mewtwo profile pics so far!

 

[Masonomace]

So Swimming is a returning mechanic in the WiiU on a few stages.

What are we imagining Mewtwo's swimming & drowning animations be?

 

[ミスティック Speed]

By the way, I'm loving everyone's new Mewtwo profile pics so far!

Now its Shul- Mewtwo time! xD

 

[LoveGame]

So Swimming is a returning mechanic in the WiiU on a few stages.

What are we imagining Mewtwo's swimming & drowning animations be?

Maybe he'll use that bubble to help him breathe but it'd eventually fade since he can't sustain it.

 

[Spirst]

Mewtwo floats above the water while glaring at the other characters menacingly. The water he floats above is actually because the water is afraid and doesn't want to touch him.

 

[YoshiplayerX]

Can anybody give me a link to the page where you discuss the custom moves?

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Mewtwo floats above the water while glaring at the other characters menacingly. The water he floats above is actually because the water is afraid and doesn't want to touch him.

xD I love this.
I'm also eager to see how Greninja swims. ^.^

 

[Spirst]

xD I love this.
I'm also eager to see how Greninja swims. ^.^

If it's anything other than

I will be very disappointed

 

[ミスティック Speed]

If it's anything other than

I will be very disappointed

...yeahhh....I'm gonna have to agree with you there. xD

 

[Jade_Rock55]

Mewtwo doesn't swim he floats in a bubble and drowns due to poor game mechanics.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

When it comes to Mewtwo swimming, this is the best thing I can think of...

 

[MewtwoX825]

If it's anything other than

I will be very disappointed

He's a water type frog, he shouldn't be able to drown (or at least not drown as fast as others)

 

[Spirst]

He's a water type frog, he shouldn't be able to drown (or at least not drown as fast as others)

Squirtle was a water type as well but still drowned like the other characters. It'd be OP if water types could camp in water indefinitely but I suppose an extra 2-3 seconds would be alright.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Squirrel was a water type

WHAT THE FRICK IS A SQUIRREL

 

[MewtwoX825]

Squirrel was a water type as well but still drowned like the other characters. It'd be OP if water types could camp in water indefinitely but I suppose an extra 2-3 seconds would be alright.

Dont recall there being a squirrle in Brawl but I assume they aren't good swimmers.

 

[Spirst]

Dont recall there being a squirrle in Brawl but I assume they aren't good swimmers.

No, Squirrle was a different character. Squirrel is the one we're discussing here.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

/relevant...?

 

[Modular Zeal]

So, do y'all think Mewtwo will be a clone of Lucario or will he be completely changed. Maybe even change how he played from in Melee. Just wanted to know what others thought. I'm expecting him to be kind of

By the way, I'm loving everyone's new Mewtwo profile pics so far!

Mine is the best

 

[ミスティック Speed]

So, do y'all think Mewtwo will be a clone of Lucario or will he be completely changed. Maybe even change how he played from in Melee. Just wanted to know what others thought. I'm expecting him to be kind of

Mine is the best

...Lucario and Mewtwo aren't clones of each other.
And even if they were...Lucario would be the clone of Mewtwo. >.>

 

[Deleted member]

WHAT THE FRICK IS A SQUIRREL

He's talking about this guy.

Spoiler

/relevant...?

Close enough.

 

[LoveGame]

Yeah, I never understood why Lucario's haters said he was Mewtwo's "replacement" or a clone.

Similar neutral B =/= clone. Know who else has a Mewtwo-esque neutral B? Samus. Mewtwo was supposed to be in Brawl alongside Lucario, but was cut part of the way into development (Many believe he was cut due to most of the dev time going into the SSE).

I don't care for Lucario myself, but hating his inclusion for that reason doesn't make sense.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Yeah, I never understood why Lucario's haters said he was Mewtwo's "replacement" or a clone.

Because they are both coincidentally bipedal humanoid Pokemon that had a starring role in a movie, talked through telepathy, are quite popular and have similar proportions.
People will look for the stupidest reasons to hate on something.

 

[ORVO5]

So, I haven't gotten it in the game myself but I have seen somewhere that Mewtwo had a trophy in the 3DS version. Is this true?

Yeah I have over 500 trophies and still no Mewtwo wtf?

Needs more brooding and destruction.

I'll get on that soon...

Yeah, I never understood why Lucario's haters said he was Mewtwo's "replacement" or a clone.

Similar neutral B =/= clone. Know who else has a Mewtwo-esque neutral B? Samus. Mewtwo was supposed to be in Brawl alongside Lucario, but was cut part of the way into development (Many believe he was cut due to most of the dev time going into the SSE).

I don't care for Lucario myself, but hating his inclusion for that reason doesn't make sense.

I disliked Lucario in Brawl because he took Mewtwo's spot as the "special rep" but I really REALLY got into him in the 3DS version. I started off with the color (since I love blue - my hair is vivid/default Lucario blue) and the fact that I needed a main while I waited for Mewtwo to be confirmed/deconfirmed, he's actually a pretty epic character and plays NOTHING like Mewtwo in Melee. But now that Mewtwo is actually confirmed I'm a bit torn.. my hair might just have to go blue-violet.

 

[MewtwoX825]

Yeah, I never understood why Lucario's haters said he was Mewtwo's "replacement" or a clone.

Similar neutral B =/= clone. Know who else has a Mewtwo-esque neutral B? Samus. Mewtwo was supposed to be in Brawl alongside Lucario, but was cut part of the way into development (Many believe he was cut due to most of the dev time going into the SSE).

I don't care for Lucario myself, but hating his inclusion for that reason doesn't make sense.

While people who say this about those two tend to be oblivious to Charizard and Bowser.

 

[Sound for Souls]

well, of course, Mewtwo is exerting it. (if you know what i mean)

This guy gets it.. haha.

 

[JesseMcCloud]

I've never understood Mewtwo haters, unless they were against his inclusion in Melee, or just didn't like him as a Pokemon. I don't know very many people like that, yet Mewtwo haters still seem to abound. He's an original character (Not a clone) with an interesting moveset, along with several other quirks. It's strange, isn't it? Not to mention, the Mewtwo haters I've seen are fairly vocal and always seem rude to some degree, whether it be high or low. The least they could do is state their opinion nicely. Oh well, just gotta let it roll of your back and keep moving.

I honestly think a lot of it is either the Ridley community, still salty and in denial, and the anti-everything-related-to-Pokemon crowd who are still campaigning for Excitebike or some other such twaddle, simply for the sake of being retro (and yet simultaneously complaining that DHD isn't retro enough.)

 

[Masonomace]

Can anybody give me a link to the page where you discuss the custom moves?

http://smashboards.com/threads/mewtwo-custom-moveset-speculation.375093/

So, do y'all think Mewtwo will be a clone of Lucario or will he be completely changed. Maybe even change how he played from in Melee. Just wanted to know what others thought. I'm expecting him to be kind of

Clone as in game-play-wise? I sure as hell hope not. I think I've told Mewtwo fans time & time & time again of my thoughts if they really did that. You can't really import Melee Mewtwo onto SSB4, so Mewtwo will be made from scratch. There's no way Mewtwo could have a similar Up-B to Lucario, nor do I think Mewtwo will have a Down-B exactly like Lucario's either, but perhaps he'll have a Parry Down-B.

My bottomline thought: He'll be completely changed because this is a new game, & Mewtwo missed out on Brawl Academy. He's got a lot of make-up work to finish.

...Lucario and Mewtwo aren't clones of each other.
And even if they were...Lucario would be the clone of Mewtwo. >.>

True, but If they were, it would be Mewtwo being the latter clone if he were to return with an identical move-set to Lucario.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

(Why hasn't then been posted yet..?)

 

[Deleted member]

I am a bit late but i think that for a swimming animation for Mewtwo he should get in the water like everyone else... however, instead of paddling to move around, Mewtwo will use his mind in the water with two fingers on his head to navigate, and will telekentically turn around for his turning animation.

For it's drowning animation it will be the same as it's normal ones only more chaotic and rigid, Mewtwo will also be shooting out damagless pulse waves to show that it's mad and wan't to return to land.

And when he drowns his animation will be the one from Mewtwo Returns when Ash and his pokemon threw him into the lake... only this time, there won't be any life to save him.