PaperstSoapCo
Smash Lord
What I was thinking is what steps do players take to play different? What things are you conscious of that you consider common and what do you feel is the most common part of your game that needs to change?
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Oh boy, me too. I just recently started getting out of patterns in my jumping/spacing techniques. Nowadays I like throwing in some empty shorthop's when I'm at a safe distance to keep my opponent guessing (and less landing lag). Also I think there was a time when I was spamming fair a little too much and my opponents were almost always ready for it.I get into jumping patterns very easily, I always find myself aerial-rejump-aerialing way too much.
So do I, that's why I put my last girlfriend on a hot air balloon and sent her to the moon.This thread is listing just about everything I do wrong. I suppose you have to start somewhere though. Right now I'm working on trying to stay more grounded, because going into the air is a big commitment for Ganon, and I hate commitment.
Oh, you evil son-of-a-***** you..So do I, that's why I put my last girlfriend on a hot air balloon and sent her to the moon.
Pretty much. If you pay attention to how they punish you, you'll remember not to do that again. Also the person you are playing will point out what you are doing wrong (probably). I get better that way...so i guess, from what i'm seeing from more experienced players (ie the rest of you) is that the only way to change is to play somebody that knows the bad habits well enough to counter them?
I'm trying to bribe dr peepee into coming to greensboro more often, but idk if he's taking advantage of my bad habits, or is just plain faster, quicker, and better than me. bet its a combination of both...
Now what did the poor ol' moon people ever do to you?So do I, that's why I put my last girlfriend on a hot air balloon and sent her to the moon.
:v............don't Do Everything, Because Everything Can Be Punished.
Well there are some bad habits that certain characters can't capitalize on. Like teching away from Puff pretty much guarantees an escape, but could mean otherwise with Fox. So even if the person knows your habits are terrible, they might not be able to punish you for it.so i guess, from what i'm seeing from more experienced players (ie the rest of you) is that the only way to change is to play somebody that knows the bad habits well enough to counter them?
I'm trying to bribe dr peepee into coming to greensboro more often, but idk if he's taking advantage of my bad habits, or is just plain faster, quicker, and better than me. bet its a combination of both...
This = useful.Well there are some bad habits that certain characters can't capitalize on. Like teching away from Puff pretty much guarantees an escape, but could mean otherwise with Fox. So even if the person knows your habits are terrible, they might not be able to punish you for it.
So, aside from just playing, just look at your characters moves and understand its strengths and limitations, it's all intuitive, and is what makes a player good in my eyes.
He's probably not so much a faster player, but a faster thinker. It's because he's so much more aware of his character and his surroundings, which, I believe, should slow down the game in a player's mind.
Uhh... i dunno, i just decided to rant.
Just be aware of what you do, start focusing on one thing and find out why and what makes you do it. It might cost you the match since you might be focusing on one thing too much, but playing to learn is a good mindset during friendlies and whatnot.
You can play to win at tourneys once you're all pro and stuff.
That has to be 100% wrong. Only thing learned in competition that can best be learned 1v1 or 2v2 is the meta game. Not of the world but of your region. That's it. You can only learn how to play the person you play. If you understand what they're doing through knowledge in vids or from playing the game, only thing that matters after that are your reaction times and how accurate and quick you can react. Everything else is just simple mechanical. Learn different players and work around it. Then get your techs up.so i guess, from what i'm seeing from more experienced players (ie the rest of you) is that the only way to change is to play somebody that knows the bad habits well enough to counter them?
So effectively, you're saying that the battle is more internal? it's not necessarily what you're opponent is doing but moreso what you do against it? so the battle isn't even knowing what you're doing wrong, but about doing everything right? And doing everything right consists of having a general knowledge of the game, the characters, and any given situation?That has to be 100% wrong. Only thing learned in competition that can best be learned 1v1 or 2v2 is the meta game. Not of the world but of your region. That's it. You can only learn how to play the person you play. If you understand what they're doing through knowledge in vids or from playing the game, only thing that matters after that are your reaction times and how accurate and quick you can react. Everything else is just simple mechanical. Learn different players and work around it. Then get your techs up.
There's not really right or wrong, it's just how adaptable are you. You can play against a decent player and eventually **** him, but lose to different play styles since you're unexposed.So effectively, you're saying that the battle is more internal? it's not necessarily what you're opponent is doing but moreso what you do against it? so the battle isn't even knowing what you're doing wrong, but about doing everything right? And doing everything right consists of having a general knowledge of the game, the characters, and any given situation?
no wonder it's taking more than a month and change...(not that i expected it to be any different)
Hmm... I think that's what makes a top tier a top tier. Cool observation.hmm, so one could argue that the "best" playstyle is the one hardest to adapt to.
What I was thinking is what steps do players take to play different? What things are you conscious of that you consider common and what do you feel is the most common part of your game that needs to change?
lol You might wanna get into the habit of using Z to grab, because I'm pretty sure it's kinda hard grab someone when your shield comes up unexpectedly, if you wanna expand it press Y and Z at the same time to JC grab. I pretty much do it 95% of the time.I dont z grab at all..I rely on clicking shield and A at perfect times to grab lol. And my prefered approach is dair..and thats how i tech chase..dair, and that is imo One of the most predicatable and easily punishable approachs even with perfect L canceling (coming from someone who doesnt wavedash with ganon..and cant find a way to put dash dancing in his game play)
We're just now going over JC grabs!? where are we 2005!?lol You might wanna get into the habit of using Z to grab, because I'm pretty sure it's kinda hard grab someone when your shield comes up unexpectedly, if you wanna expand it press Y and Z at the same time to JC grab. I pretty much do it 95% of the time.