Evo 2kXV Competitive Impressions

[Gunla]

New thread? New thread. Touche, Shaya.

aMSa's Greninja is always a beautiful sight. It brings a tear to my eye.

 

[Macchiato]

ven getting through pools makes me so happy! I'm happy that at least one Zelda made it.

Seagull got bopped on. This day keeps growing better and better

Is he going to blame his lose on Customs, too?

Now can't wait for him to lose to a Zelda
"Zelda is not viable" -Seagull Joe

 

[TriTails]

Pikmin can bodyblock Aura Sphere.

How's Olimar vs Lucario?

 

[Balgorxz]

so what are your impressions about customs in a huge tournament so far?
IMO, they are okay as long as the custom project gets updated with the optimal sets and discussing possible jank or bannable moves.

 

[FullMoon]

Was the Game & Watch notable or...?

Either way he may have gone Greninja just because of the MU. I don't think Pikachu loses but it can't be a fun matchup for the rodent.

I think aMSa might have given up on going Pikachu entirely, considering he went Greninja vs Diddy as well even though he lost game 1

I guess aMSa just couldn't stay away from the frog for too long.

Not that I'm complaining =V

 

[Superbat]

N-word what? https://mobile.twitter.com/PG_ESAM/status/622224448175779840?p=v
Japan getting bodied in evo (cant blame them) they have zero custom practice. (bruh)

 

[Pazx]

Apologyman made a huge mistake by switching to piercing aura sphere BEFORE Denti picked his character. Might cost him the set.

 

[outfoxd]

N-word what? https://mobile.twitter.com/PG_ESAM/status/622224448175779840?p=v

Let the customs hate commence
Edit: whatd they expect, isnt Japan defaults only?

 

[Scarlet Jile]

DQs need to start coming out for that ****, man. That was way too long for such a terrible choice from Apologyman.

 

[FullMoon]

Rain is already out? Wow.

 

[Djent]

CAPTAIN AWESUM BEATS RAIN

ALL HAIL CUSTOMS

— ESAM (Stride Esports) (@imESAM) July 18, 2015

Really hope this isn't true.

 

[Jaguar360]

Despite just seeing Denti's Yoshi get 2 stocked by Apologyman's Lucario, I've gotta say that I like the Yoshi representation in this tournament. Sky did well, didn't see Omni but I heard that his was good, Denti and some other Yoshi on stream was solid.

 

[MrTeddyBear]

Damn... I was worried that Japan might lose to custom inexperience, like how we almost seen Amsa lose to Rocketbarrel Attack.

Hopefully he doesn't end up like Nietono and is able to get through losers.

 

[RonNewcomb]

so what are your impressions about customs in a huge tournament so far?
IMO, they are okay as long as the custom project gets updated with the optimal sets and discussing possible jank or bannable moves.

I saw DK looking like he's a counterpick to Sheik. So yeah, I'm pretty warm to customs.
But yeah, the project needs updating. A *lot* of good loadouts are missing, for multiple characters. (But I think AA did a pretty good job considering the time constraints.)

 

[thehard]

False 2-0s Con Con, Angel Cortes beats Shaky

 

[ItsRainingGravy]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ehNNiwyVNyyYmCGQMJ358/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0

Yoshi's usage-to-success rate has really been in his favor this EVO. It's really nice to see.

...for this particular stream anyways~

 

[ぱみゅ]

I just futilely hope these individual matches of unprepared people losing won't make people turn against customs.....

 

[Rashyboy05]

Considering Japan has almost zero experience with customs. It's not surprising to see Japanese lose to customs.

 

[outfoxd]

I just futilely hope these individual matches of unprepared people losing won't make people turn against customs.....

Knee jerks are a powerful thing, especially when those knees jerk in social media spurred unison.

 

[Drarky]

Customs haven't done anything stupid or jank (at least on stream), but some people will still complain how x player lost to y player because of them.

The hate will always be there.

 

[Appledees]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ehNNiwyVNyyYmCGQMJ358/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0

Yoshi's usage-to-success rate has really been in his favor this EVO. It's really nice to see.

...for this particular stream anyways~

4 megamans and none of them have won

that's so depressing oh my god even a lucina got more success

and people put this character in A tier wow

 

[Nu~]

Abadango still hasn't played huh.

 

[Drarky]

4 megamans and none of them have won

that's so depressing oh my god even a lucina got more success

On the bright side, we are not LM.

...

...I'm not feeling any better.

 

[Djent]

Abadango still hasn't played huh.

Playing @Abadangowario soon on http://t.co/Lm8bzTFbxN

— Stride | MVD (@MVD731) July 18, 2015

 

[ぱみゅ]

Customs haven't done anything stupid or jank (at least on stream), but some people will still complain how x player lost to y player because of them.

The hate will always be there.

Helicopter Kick alone beat a Toon Link that was outplaying a Mii Brawler, but it's the only thing I can point to.

And despite how heart-breaking it was, it's just an anecdote.

 

[Rashyboy05]

What character does Captain Awesum use? I'm feeling that he uses Falcon.

Edit: He uses Villager. I can see why.

 

[Nobie]

Theory: Sheik, whose sole weakness is taking longer to kill, suffers from the customs environment, aka Jank City, USA.

 

[Ikes]

in case we see Wario v Sheik at EVO, what are thoughts on that matchup? Is it even, in wario's favor, in sheik's favor? Who wins this? Wario's weight makes him harder to kill but his fall speed and mobility make him harder to juggle, which exploits two of sheik's big problems - kill power and the fact that she can't reliably juggle Wario

Chomp being arguably the best command grab in the game makes it harder to start/connect a fair wall on Wario since it'll generally clank out/grab through most weaker moves, so all the Wario player needs to do is read when the fair wall comes out and react accordingly.

Not to mention EVO allows customs so we can expect some absurd rose scented waft edgeguarding, potentially even against sheik.

just my two cents, anyone else have any input here?

 

[thehard]

Nietono got double eliminated by Tearbear, default Falcon looking very suspect!

 

[Asdioh]

Japan has just as much access to customs as we do. Technically more since they got Smash 3ds before we did :^)
If they really wanted to practice customs for Evo, they had months to do so.
Anywho, Captain Awesum is probably the main reason my locals want to switch to customs off \(o_o)/ I'd like to see those matches if they're available sometime.
I also wish the pools were updated :/ http://evo2015.s3.amazonaws.com/brackets/ssb4_d48.html I'm kind of confused how pools work, a 16 man pool, followed by another, followed by another, followed by top 4? How far are we into this right now, since I'm seeing people "made it out of pools?"

 

[Pazx]

Sup guys I just wanna talk about Mii Brawler, specifically Vinnie vs Nick Riddle.

DON'T DI HELICOPTER KICK UPWARDS. Vinnie is stuck on Brawl DI I guess, he's died off the top to helicopter kick. Always DI ("vector") the last hit inwards, towards the stage.

also obligatory: mii brawler is like mid tier, limited character

 

[TriTails]

HERE GOES ABADANGO!

With Pac-Man!

 

[zeldasmash]

Here we go Abadango!

 

[Neoleo21]

Awesum's the rather ledge happy villager right?

Edit: MVD VS Abadango is looking like a mine field.

 

[ParanoidDrone]

so what are your impressions about customs in a huge tournament so far?
IMO, they are okay as long as the custom project gets updated with the optimal sets and discussing possible jank or bannable moves.

I've been at work all day, and now that I'm home I'm playing Splatoon (Splatfest hype!) so I've been missing out on all the stream stuff. With anything resembling luck we'll have videos on Youtube soon? Maybe? Or Twitch VODs, even though my current internet dislikes those with a passion and stops them every 15 seconds or so.

What I'm getting at is that I really haven't been able to see for myself how customs are faring, although there's been a distinct lack of salt in this thread so I'm cautiously optimistic. Haven't looked at Reddit yet.

 

[Nu~]

Tried to lame pacman out.
Gets rekt

 

[Deleted member]

I recall Abadango not liking the melon despite considered being a great tool by other Pac Man players. I think that first stock might be why...

 

[Drarky]

That jelly stun paralyzer thing on the ledge was scary tho.

 

[Rashyboy05]

MVD going to Game 2 with that Diddy.

 

[Neoleo21]

I've been at work all day, and now that I'm home I'm playing Splatoon (Splatfest hype!) so I've been missing out on all the stream stuff. With anything resembling luck we'll have videos on Youtube soon? Maybe? Or Twitch VODs, even though my current internet dislikes those with a passion and stops them every 15 seconds or so.

What I'm getting at is that I really haven't been able to see for myself how customs are faring, although there's been a distinct lack of salt in this thread so I'm cautiously optimistic. Haven't looked at Reddit yet.

Reddit's not very salty either. SmashCapps did a small article on 50 player sample on the subject with 49% opposing customs but otherwise its been pretty positive all around.