ESAM's ZP Monthlies 8/6/11 Will You Leave Your Chao...Forever?

[Master Raven]

Jigglypuff should randomly explode every time you rest w/ splash damage

 

[2-DJeff]

I think your right mink but I'm un sure

 

[8Bitman]

No if you do MK's nado the screen should just go black and when it's over everyone just dies.

 

[MVD]

But snake has more bad MUs than the below ones he is bad against wario marth Olimar ddd

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Snake loses to Wario?

 

[Exdeath]

Yes but isn't the reason why luigi loses because of olimars anti airs? Luigi can only really aprouch with air attacks

Luigi's Nair beats almost everything that Olimar has, covers landing options, kills, etc. How do you anti-air that? Luigi loses pretty much everything because he's Luigi and can't get in on a sleeping goat.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I ****ING HATE LUIGI's nair.

Omg.
Radix/Dice know.

Why the **** does it have so much Knockback.

PUFF,
Y U NO HAVE GOOD NAIR?!

 

[2-DJeff]

Yea mink u didn't know that? Wario should be 2nd or 3rd on the tier list but no one in the us is good enough. Gluttony is the best wario amd he exploits that wario is worthy to be 2nd or 3rd on the list
@xdeath
so you agree with me by saying luigi can't get in?

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I can't say i've seen a good wario do work on a good snake.
Next fest at your place i'll have to see some action.

I need to fest with you guys again.

But not this weekend..... VEGAS.

I'm gonna have so many pictures for you guys. with my new camera my family bought me :3

 

[2-DJeff]

Type gluttony vs ally and watch the *** whooping

 

[Master Raven]

I think Wario vs Snake is either even or +1 Wario.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Jiggz is +1 on Falcon.
and even with bowser.

 

[DFEAR]

snake is 6/7th

and diddy is rightfully 2nd...yes...

must be patient...patient diddy...yesssssss

 

[2-DJeff]

If wario wanted he can evade snake the whole game that's what gluttony started doing to ally in gf

 

[NickRiddle]

If wario wanted he can evade snake the whole game that's what gluttony started doing to ally in gf

You mean, when Ally didn't pivot-grab?
Wario plays like that vs. everybody.

Also, ZSS wrecks ICs. I don't have to try and I don't lose to IC players.

 

[Toneh]

I ****ING HATE LUIGI's nair.

Omg.
Radix/Dice know.

Why the **** does it have so much Knockback.

PUFF,
Y U NO HAVE GOOD NAIR?!

Its not too bad man you're usin the lightest character in the game :jiggs:

How about a tier list with only brinstar and rainbow cruise allowed

 

[DFEAR]

diddy WOULD wreck ic if ic couldnt catch while blizzarding and or grab armor the trip from a banana : [

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Puff would be better.

 

[Exdeath]

ESAM for ultimate troll status. He made a couple posts and there are now several different arguments among several different people.

Nice.

 

[2-DJeff]

Nick please do not talk about mu with me lol your the last person. I remember the weekend before pound you where talking all this **** about how ddd gets wrecked by zss and we all know what happened same when I mm with gnw way back at my 2nd or 3rd tournament you told me gnw gets wrecked by zss. What happened with izzy? And stop trying to make excuses for allys defeat in europe. and you say you wernt ttying in our mm which each game came down to last stock high percent 1st time then mid percent and me barely having any zss practice with you mashing like crazy is a damn lie. if I actually sat down with d-torr for 2hrs a day for a week that mm would had flipped easily

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

Nick please do not talk about mu with me lol your the last person. I remember the weekend before pound you where talking all this **** about how ddd gets wrecked by zss and we all know what happened same when I mm with gnw way back at my 2nd or 3rd tournament you told me gnw gets wrecked by zss. What happened with izzy? And stop trying to make excuses for allys defeat in europe. and you say you wernt ttying in our mm which each game came down to last stock high percent 1st time then mid percent and me barely having any zss practice with you mashing like crazy is a damn lie. if I actually sat down with d-torr for 2hrs a day for a week that mm would had flipped easily

You can't use me as comparison to any other ZSS, except maybe Shlike.

Training with me won't help you with the ZSS MU because I play completely different from most ZSS. Only practice you would get is getting the CG down.

I tell everyone, I play a bad style of ZSS, but I make it work.

 

[MVD]

Wario has gotten better since ally and glut brah snake stays the same I say wario has an advantage against snake

 

[DFEAR]

isnt that funny? everyones metagame still grows except snakes and possibly mks : [

 

[NickRiddle]

Nick please do not talk about mu with me lol your the last person. I remember the weekend before pound you where talking all this **** about how ddd gets wrecked by zss and we all know what happened same when I mm with gnw way back at my 2nd or 3rd tournament you told me gnw gets wrecked by zss. What happened with izzy? And stop trying to make excuses for allys defeat in europe. and you say you wernt ttying in our mm which each game came down to last stock high percent 1st time then mid percent and me barely having any zss practice with you mashing like crazy is a damn lie. if I actually sat down with d-torr for 2hrs a day for a week that mm would had flipped easily

Yeah, I lost to Coney the first match, then I ***** him game 2, then I SDed game 3.
I was playing like **** when I lost to Izzy... or he's better than Vinnie, which I really doubt.

I was mashing because it's ICs, and even while not trying I want to not get 0-deathed by a CG.
Yo, you have MU practice yet? You always talk big, and you "come close" to beating good people, but you never beat them.
For real kid, it's getting old. At least when ESAM or I talk ****... we can back it up with results.
Let's MM again, I'll get you to an even higher % than HRNut did before I decide to stop playing around with you.

 

[Xaltis]

Yeah, I lost to Coney the first match, then I ***** him game 2, then I SDed game 3.
I was playing like **** when I lost to Izzy... or he's better than Vinnie, which I really doubt.

I was mashing because it's ICs, and even while not trying I want to not get 0-deathed by a CG.
Yo, you have MU practice yet? You always talk big, and you "come close" to beating good people, but you never beat them.
For real kid, it's getting old. At least when ESAM or I talk ****... we can back it up with results.
Let's MM again, I'll get you to an even higher % than HRNut did before I decide to stop playing around with you.

Justin given 2DJeff the deeeeek.

 

[OverLade]

i have the best wario ever

Funniest post in thread so far

I believe tier list is

MK
Diddy
Pika
Falco
Snake
Marth
Wario
ICs
Olimar
ZSS
G&W
Lucario
Toon Link
King Dedede
R.O.B.
Peach
Donkey Kong
Fox
Kirby
Pit
Luigi
Ness
Sonic
Zheik
Wolf
Yoshi
Sheik
Ike
Lucas
Pokemon Trainer
Mario
Samus
Falcon
Bowser
Jiggs
Link
Zelda
Ganon

You guys are all trippin...

MK
Diddy
Falco
Snake
ICs
Pikachu
Marth
Olimar
Wario

*stops mattering*

Wario is seriously one of the most overrated characters in this game. Tons of random unviable characters have amazing matchups/arguably beat him. Peach/DK/Yoshi/Sheik/Falcon/Luigi all beat him or have a reasonably winnable matchup and that doesn't even include top tiers. Snake definitely destroys Wario, some people can tech chase him purely on reaction. All you do is camp reverse grabs and it's done. Wario's only option to win is run away and try to make snake do something stupid for the entire match. The only edge he has against any of these characters is fast and the ability to run away. If you're not willing to run away the character isn't any good against people who play defensively and know the matchup.

And Snake is still really good you just have to know every matchup and play accordingly, and no snake in FL history has even been about matchups and specifics... Having a lot of Snakes doesn't mean anyone is doing it right...

 

[2-DJeff]

It dosnt matter how you play with zss or any character. All I need you for in learning the mu is you abusing a move like dsmash for example. When I played you I learned that I can grab you out of a shielded dsmashed if I fox trot ic. Little things like that helps me out, it helps me win mus. like against snakes you can grab in between his ftilt if timed right. Also zelda ppl used to think smash is safe on ic shield. But until I found out I can use nana like a pikman and buffer grab with her oos on zelda. Little things help me out a lot dtorr
@nickriddle
No one talkibg **** about the ic zss mu your just mad because I beg to differ. Ok yea i come close and you come close to winning mu that are ib your favor don't give me thoes bs johns"o I was playing like ****" " I sd 3rd game" if the mu was so bad for d3 the sd wouldn't have even mattered come on now let's be real.
No ones talking big bro I'm just giving you the facts learn to eat it. And stop trying to act hard on swf because we all know your not.
@xaltis I dont take **** I'm black i give it out

 

[_Dice]

At least when ESAM talks ****... he can back it up with results.

Fixed that for you sir

 

[Master Raven]

o my great gogjesus

 

[shlike]

You can't use me as comparison to any other ZSS, except maybe Shlike.

Training with me won't help you with the ZSS MU because I play completely different from most ZSS. Only practice you would get is getting the CG down.

I tell everyone, I play a bad style of ZSS, but I make it work.

So does that mean that I play a bad style of zss? Lol :3 Also starting **** with FL is never a good thing lol

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Dude
So many callouts on one page.

 

[NickRiddle]

Fixed that for you sir

I hate you.

So does that mean that I play a bad style of zss? Lol :3

Yes, yes it does. <3

 

[Master Raven]

Mink YOU'RE GAY

 

[MVD]

Idc what a MK main says about Snakes MUs Lolololol I'm right your wrong thank you DON'T come again

 

[2-DJeff]

Dice with the legit call out

 

[Master Raven]

-throws a chair-

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

So does that mean that I play a bad style of zss? Lol :3

Ummm.... I guess. But I love your playstyle. We make it work.... somehow.

<3

 

[shlike]

I hate you.



Yes, yes it does. <3

I hate you. </3 You're just lucky florida is ****ing cool nick. Get carried by the rest of florida's coolness

Ummm.... I guess. But I love your playstyle. We make it work.... somehow.

<3

I love you. read above statement about fl

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

Mink YOU'RE GAY

Damn.
That hurt me.

 

[2-DJeff]

Master raven with the legit callout lol sorry mink lol