Ryuker
Smash Lord
This discussion is turning more childish per post. Don't turn to name calling to prove your point it doesn't work.
@ Amsah: My guess is multiple people did by just flushing the toilet and using too much toilet paper or something. After that no one took the liberty to clean that up so it just got worser and worse. Now this is just a guess but that thing was filled till it's peak when I got to JD's place so something blocked the toilet.
What I'm most upset about with JD is how he handled this though and his lack of communication. I was happy he wanted to house us and it's generous that he allows so many people in his house but he really didn't handle the housing well. If you get this amount of people in your house the normal route to take is:
make a list of who's coming, when are they coming and plan ahead were they will sleep ( Just an estimate. ) The more people you get in your house the more you need to structurise it. There wasn't any list about the rules of his house. There was no note on the door saying don't use the toilet it's ****ed up!
And half of the living room wasn't used properly which meant everyone had to sit in a really cramped room. The other half had 2 small tv's and 1 big screen that should have been moved to the side. This half was also really messy with a lot of magazines on the floor and such.
Now I saw he did buy plastic plates to prevent doing the dishes but he never stated this anywere cause there was no list to refer to for rules so we didn't really use them much. He also didn't seem to have a backup plan when the toilet was ****ed ( but people still gotta pee) so we had to improvise and use his washingroom.
Now when I arrived at the station normally I get picked up by the one housing me or I get directions to his place. When jeffzor and I arrived at the station we didn't get any from JD's side. We waited for an hour at the station. When we called jd's place we talked to baxon and then zgetto but they couldn't help us ( can't blame zgetto since it was the first time he got there). We got called by Slhoka who gave us directions in the end ( really gratefull for that.)
When we got to JD's place he was there and I asked him why he didn't pick us up ( eventhough he said jeffzor he would) and he said no time had to bring japanese to poilon. Now this would have been fine with me if he had contacted us about this sooner. I would even accept this crap if the moment he got home he would approach me and appologize for not picking me and jeffzor up. Instead I have to ask him...
I understood he had a hard time during the night with multiple calls and threats of police coming in cause of the disturbence. I already said in the other epita thread that I found this very immature of certain dutchies and I hope they think twice before they do this again ( I know they ain't doing it at my place). But he cut the power though and everyone went to sleep ( not the best way to handle this but atleast it worked). I don't have much to complain about how he handled this night though although he should have reorganized the living room so more people could sleep there.
Then next day he kicked the Swedes out so on. I didn't really get that although he must have felt it was necessary since it was too noisy and the more people there the harder to coordinate everything. After this he went on demanding the dutchies cleaned his place and use his famous seriously line to state it seriousness. Debates after debates most people started cleaning ( I started voluntarily moving the chair to one side of the living room for the vacuum cleaner but wasn't allowed to vaccuum anything cause he said Adam had to do that. I did the dishes with jeffzor ( broke one dish accidentaly so sorry for that JD
). Hard to do the dishes though since I couldn't use hot water ( WTF!)
After that I had to get going to the Louvre. Since I heard all this debate about the toilet and so on I asked JD what was gonna happen. He said that we were gonna get cleaning stuff. Hour later he didn't get any yet and I was getting pissed off... In the end I cleaned it with multiple handkerchiefs (people make a huge deal about me doing this but I don't really get it we could have done this in an hour and have the hall way cleaned as well). I told JD I couldn't do the reall serious stuff though ( unplugging or whatever you call it) cause he needed special stuff for that. He said he would get it.
I laughed my *** of when I finally got out of there though. I saw that like 3 meters away from his house there was a sanitair store ( or what you call this?) with all the stuff he needed. He could have gotten it in the morning and have his house cleaned by 13.00... . At that point I just though meh whatever I'm going.
( You think I reach the end by now don't you?)
After a great day at the louvre I went back to his place. Pretty late but still. When I got of at Plaisaince I got a call from jeffzor saying we all had to go to the venue and our stuff was being moved over there. ( I guess this was a smart way to handle the problems we were having) I was literally in front of JD's house and he never phoned me or jeffzor about this again ( I forgot were jeffzor got this from I just remember him being pissed off about it ). We could have been standing at his place until the next morning waiting...
Then when I finally got to the venue ( already pretty annoyed since I never did anything remotely close to this when housing him in Holland) he was playing smash and looked pretty shocked ( I guess it was hard to handle). I approached him with a question why he didn't call me and he simply said:" no time..." ( I could have screamed...) So no direction or anything about were my stuff was. No appology for the sudden shift to the venue. Hell he didn't approach me at all when I got there... No I had to approach him about this.
Just for comparison this is how you would do it:
Make a list of everyone there ( if you hadn't already) and all the stuff they are taking or that you found since you are packing other people's stuff withouth them knowing. Try to contact them or instruct someone else to contact who is staying at your place so they know what's up. At the venue aproach everyone you housed with your list and check off if you took everything ( apologize in advance) and if you did forget plan when you will get it or kindly come up with a different plan to get there stuff by the next morning.
I went to eat after this and then too poilon's were I met JD again who I later heard was gonna sleep there. I asked him were my laptop was and he gave me a name ( not on paper and if it wasn't for Slhoka I wouldn't have found him). When I got back at the venue I couldn't find my stuff anywhere. I got my laptop back but I couldn't find my bag. I asked slhoka but since JD didn't have a cellphone we couldn't get in touch with him. After Slhoka was so nice to try figuring this out I later heard JD was at poilon's sleeping. When it was about 3.00 I went to poilon's since I just had to know what was up and Poilon asked JD( It's frigging hard to wake up JD when he sleeps he basically seems dead..) I got told he forgot it and poilon offered me to sleep at his place on the floor. I went ahead and did that and the next morning remen woke me up and I caught JD ( Once again he didn't approach me about the trouble with my stuff but I had to approach him.) I asked him how he was gonna fix this and he said I can not get it until sunday evening or monday morning. The he told me he went to the venue and I accepted that for some strange reason. After thinking again I ran after him since I was basically fed up with this. I got frigging angry at him and managed to convince him to give me his key's to his place and get it my self.. So I did. When I got there at the same spot I left it was the nasty stuff I took out of the toilet room. None of it cleaned up or anything just like I left it 1 day ago....
So besides Slhoka's and poilon's help I had to fix every **** problem I had my self...
You would think that he had a lot on his mind so on and you could say I'm excpecting to much service but if you realise I managed to persuade my parent to allow him to come to my place for 2 months to find a job ( Smoke weed...) and basically sit in his own room( own bed so on) the majority of the time keeping him to the rules and sort of being a policemen by watching if he didn't violate the rules we had, convincing my parents that he was a good guy and would stick to the rules...
you might understand I feel screwed and dissapointed.
I didn't talk to him much during the rest of the tournament although I tried to help with the tournament when I could. I heard he's off to poland now so I wish him luck and hope he get's his life back on track. I posted my opinion and comments on the tournament itself in the other epita thread. I don't wanna connect the crap that happened with JD to this tournament specifically.
@ Amsah: My guess is multiple people did by just flushing the toilet and using too much toilet paper or something. After that no one took the liberty to clean that up so it just got worser and worse. Now this is just a guess but that thing was filled till it's peak when I got to JD's place so something blocked the toilet.
What I'm most upset about with JD is how he handled this though and his lack of communication. I was happy he wanted to house us and it's generous that he allows so many people in his house but he really didn't handle the housing well. If you get this amount of people in your house the normal route to take is:
make a list of who's coming, when are they coming and plan ahead were they will sleep ( Just an estimate. ) The more people you get in your house the more you need to structurise it. There wasn't any list about the rules of his house. There was no note on the door saying don't use the toilet it's ****ed up!
And half of the living room wasn't used properly which meant everyone had to sit in a really cramped room. The other half had 2 small tv's and 1 big screen that should have been moved to the side. This half was also really messy with a lot of magazines on the floor and such.
Now I saw he did buy plastic plates to prevent doing the dishes but he never stated this anywere cause there was no list to refer to for rules so we didn't really use them much. He also didn't seem to have a backup plan when the toilet was ****ed ( but people still gotta pee) so we had to improvise and use his washingroom.
Now when I arrived at the station normally I get picked up by the one housing me or I get directions to his place. When jeffzor and I arrived at the station we didn't get any from JD's side. We waited for an hour at the station. When we called jd's place we talked to baxon and then zgetto but they couldn't help us ( can't blame zgetto since it was the first time he got there). We got called by Slhoka who gave us directions in the end ( really gratefull for that.)
When we got to JD's place he was there and I asked him why he didn't pick us up ( eventhough he said jeffzor he would) and he said no time had to bring japanese to poilon. Now this would have been fine with me if he had contacted us about this sooner. I would even accept this crap if the moment he got home he would approach me and appologize for not picking me and jeffzor up. Instead I have to ask him...
I understood he had a hard time during the night with multiple calls and threats of police coming in cause of the disturbence. I already said in the other epita thread that I found this very immature of certain dutchies and I hope they think twice before they do this again ( I know they ain't doing it at my place). But he cut the power though and everyone went to sleep ( not the best way to handle this but atleast it worked). I don't have much to complain about how he handled this night though although he should have reorganized the living room so more people could sleep there.
Then next day he kicked the Swedes out so on. I didn't really get that although he must have felt it was necessary since it was too noisy and the more people there the harder to coordinate everything. After this he went on demanding the dutchies cleaned his place and use his famous seriously line to state it seriousness. Debates after debates most people started cleaning ( I started voluntarily moving the chair to one side of the living room for the vacuum cleaner but wasn't allowed to vaccuum anything cause he said Adam had to do that. I did the dishes with jeffzor ( broke one dish accidentaly so sorry for that JD
). Hard to do the dishes though since I couldn't use hot water ( WTF!)After that I had to get going to the Louvre. Since I heard all this debate about the toilet and so on I asked JD what was gonna happen. He said that we were gonna get cleaning stuff. Hour later he didn't get any yet and I was getting pissed off... In the end I cleaned it with multiple handkerchiefs (people make a huge deal about me doing this but I don't really get it we could have done this in an hour and have the hall way cleaned as well). I told JD I couldn't do the reall serious stuff though ( unplugging or whatever you call it) cause he needed special stuff for that. He said he would get it.
I laughed my *** of when I finally got out of there though. I saw that like 3 meters away from his house there was a sanitair store ( or what you call this?) with all the stuff he needed. He could have gotten it in the morning and have his house cleaned by 13.00... . At that point I just though meh whatever I'm going.
( You think I reach the end by now don't you?)
After a great day at the louvre I went back to his place. Pretty late but still. When I got of at Plaisaince I got a call from jeffzor saying we all had to go to the venue and our stuff was being moved over there. ( I guess this was a smart way to handle the problems we were having) I was literally in front of JD's house and he never phoned me or jeffzor about this again ( I forgot were jeffzor got this from I just remember him being pissed off about it ). We could have been standing at his place until the next morning waiting...
Then when I finally got to the venue ( already pretty annoyed since I never did anything remotely close to this when housing him in Holland) he was playing smash and looked pretty shocked ( I guess it was hard to handle). I approached him with a question why he didn't call me and he simply said:" no time..." ( I could have screamed...) So no direction or anything about were my stuff was. No appology for the sudden shift to the venue. Hell he didn't approach me at all when I got there... No I had to approach him about this.
Just for comparison this is how you would do it:
Make a list of everyone there ( if you hadn't already) and all the stuff they are taking or that you found since you are packing other people's stuff withouth them knowing. Try to contact them or instruct someone else to contact who is staying at your place so they know what's up. At the venue aproach everyone you housed with your list and check off if you took everything ( apologize in advance) and if you did forget plan when you will get it or kindly come up with a different plan to get there stuff by the next morning.
I went to eat after this and then too poilon's were I met JD again who I later heard was gonna sleep there. I asked him were my laptop was and he gave me a name ( not on paper and if it wasn't for Slhoka I wouldn't have found him). When I got back at the venue I couldn't find my stuff anywhere. I got my laptop back but I couldn't find my bag. I asked slhoka but since JD didn't have a cellphone we couldn't get in touch with him. After Slhoka was so nice to try figuring this out I later heard JD was at poilon's sleeping. When it was about 3.00 I went to poilon's since I just had to know what was up and Poilon asked JD( It's frigging hard to wake up JD when he sleeps he basically seems dead..) I got told he forgot it and poilon offered me to sleep at his place on the floor. I went ahead and did that and the next morning remen woke me up and I caught JD ( Once again he didn't approach me about the trouble with my stuff but I had to approach him.) I asked him how he was gonna fix this and he said I can not get it until sunday evening or monday morning. The he told me he went to the venue and I accepted that for some strange reason. After thinking again I ran after him since I was basically fed up with this. I got frigging angry at him and managed to convince him to give me his key's to his place and get it my self.. So I did. When I got there at the same spot I left it was the nasty stuff I took out of the toilet room. None of it cleaned up or anything just like I left it 1 day ago....
So besides Slhoka's and poilon's help I had to fix every **** problem I had my self...
You would think that he had a lot on his mind so on and you could say I'm excpecting to much service but if you realise I managed to persuade my parent to allow him to come to my place for 2 months to find a job ( Smoke weed...) and basically sit in his own room( own bed so on) the majority of the time keeping him to the rules and sort of being a policemen by watching if he didn't violate the rules we had, convincing my parents that he was a good guy and would stick to the rules...
you might understand I feel screwed and dissapointed.
I didn't talk to him much during the rest of the tournament although I tried to help with the tournament when I could. I heard he's off to poland now so I wish him luck and hope he get's his life back on track. I posted my opinion and comments on the tournament itself in the other epita thread. I don't wanna connect the crap that happened with JD to this tournament specifically.
Less waiting time for me XD
