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[No Lynch]

jd when did i tell you to vote j?

Is j scum or indy? R u voting him for bein indy or scum?

^ ^^

 

[No Lynch]

Dude, you're the one who's implying all these things. I'm just trying to find scum. I think both J and DH's slots are scum, with or without each other. I have no idea what your brain has paired them as or not paired them as.

Because if you read what I post you'd already know my motive? I already answered your questions, now you're just babbling incoherently. (don't know what wgat stands for)

Seriously, get Zen back on the line. He actually understands how speaking works.

Okay, so they're both scum. Great.

Then....Him voting DH means nothing to you at all and you're only willing to consider him possibly bussing despite the fact you've called DH scum the whole time you've been in this game?

 

[No Lynch]

EBWOP: Not exactly voting, more of a complacent suspicion , but the point still stands.

 

[JTB]

I've been skimming through on my phone while at work so I can look into more detail when on a computer, but I noticed that DSH still has not explained what he got from his gambit and that troubles me.

request prod on dsh

 

[ranmaru]

JTB, just vote J with us

 

[JTB]

Did j replace in?

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah J replaced in for Kary.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Busy with stuff in other games and uploading videos, will post on hydra here later.

 

[Jdietz43]

@Ran: It was heavily implied from you both voting him, then high fiving NL for asking me to join in.

JD, what is your opinion on J?

Vote: J

Jdietz you agree on Jscum right? Get on this.

*Hi5 No Lynch*

My bad for thinking you directly asked, but it was clear you approved.


@Both: I could see J being either comfortably (which is why I said he could be mafia or indy and got confused when you started balking about it). Scum is scum though of either flavor and should be disposed of. Him voicing suspicion of DH's slot is null on him, he hasn't actively acted toward it yet toDay instead opting to follow NL onto Kat and bounce from there to me. Kary wasn't devoid of wagon hopping either, if you read D1 he was arguing with everything that moved.

What connections do you see between J and DH that's getting you so hung up on this?

 

[Jdietz43]

(wait, is this whole argument because I've been using the term scum instead of mafia? If so semantics r gay)

 

[ranmaru]

I was hi5'ing him for the first line, not the second. Since we agreed on the massclaiming later thing, not you joining.

Nice try you trying to make it imply that, seeing as how you snipped that line out of his quote.

 

[ranmaru]

Alright tomorrow it is then. I trust Ranmaru's opinion.

Jdietz you agree on Jscum right? Get on this.

Here is the entire quote.

Why would I approve of your joining the wagon without even having your opinion on J? (Since I asked you)

 

[Jdietz43]

Because you agree with the wagon. That's what I took it as at least.

 

[ranmaru]

Ok. JD, if DH flipped scum, would you lynch J after? Yes or no and why

 

[Jdietz43]

Yes, because I'd be for lynching both of them either way. I don't have a connection between them beyond the fact I see them both as scummy. If other people do you'll have to enlighten me.

 

[ranmaru]

Because you agree with the wagon. That's what I took it as at least.

What does my agreeing with the wagon have to do with you joining it? Who exactly did you lend your vote to and why?

 

[Jdietz43]

At the time I assumed I was lending my vote to both NL and you. You are for the J lynch correct?

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah but you have a scum read on Zen right? Why would you lend your vote to him partially? What's your read on me?

 

[Jdietz43]

Sure I have a scum read on Zen, but that doesn't prevent me from seeing some truth in his wagon or considering J more scummy than NL (which I do).

 

[ranmaru]

You didn't answer my question. What's your read on me?

 

[Jdietz43]

Sorry lol. Playing LoL while answering questions is getting the better of me. I have a Town read of you Ran.

 

[Circus]

Can hardly remember the specifics of my reads from my catch up read a few days ago. Only people I remember liking were Zen, Marshy and Ran. Pleased with J's slot (Kary). I wouldn't miss anyone else. Garg should diediedie, though he's the kind of player that will probably be given a free ticket to endgame because no one wants to lynch a noob and scum's got bigger fish to fry.

I literally haven't read a single post since the start of D2 yet, so gimme a minute to get my bearings again.

 

[ranmaru]

JD I don't see how you can be playing LoL and paying attention to the thread at the same time. Right now I'm afk'ing in minecraft but LoL ain't minecraft. (I'm at my house)

 

[Jdietz43]

(press 'B', check thread. Buy items, click to lane. Spew out sentence reply. Cash in 150 for the day )

I'm not playing anymore though, game finished.

 

[Jdietz43]

Basically here's how the interactions are shaping up from my end on my top 3 picks (J,NL,DH. Inferno is ok if he truly meant it when he said he wasn't trying to Seuss rolefish)

I see a connection between NL and DH since NL was clear on his DH town stance on a few different occasions. So if DH flips scum I want NL more, and vice versa.

Don't see a direct connection between DH and J. Either one flipping is an independant event in my mind until proven otherwise, but would bet either one of them is scum on their own actions alone.

Could see mafia vs. indy perspective on J vs NL. If one flipped mafia I could see the other as indy and vice versa but most likely not mafia together. I would bet we could find our SK in those two, but at least scum if not.

 

[Jdietz43]

Circus, I see you've arrived.

Why do you think DH had a heart attack at Detective's obvious gambit? And why when he came back did he barely say a word?

 

[ranmaru]

Null-scum so far on J himself, didn't like that he pressured me but not for any of Garg's actions and instead seemed to try and make a case on me myself before anything actually happened. Waiting to see how he responds to his weird comment about DH being a PR and all his "possibilities". If he can't explain that with some semblance of logic it's going to turn into a scum read. The fact I could barely read Kary D1 due to copious fighting with KWK however doesn't help and makes my take on his slot fairly dubious.


Vote: J

I'll lend you my vote for now, just promise me you'll consider DH as a lynch as well. I'll be waiting to hear J's response and your write-up.

Alright so Zen is a scum read but you agree with his push on J. You say you saw truth to it right? But this shows that you didn't see the truth, you were still in questioning with J. Right?

Now I remember why I had Marshy as ok: he was up for lynching DH, whereas Zen thought he was town for no real explained reason.

@J: Wut? Wanna explain that out for us so we can actually follow you. I agree DH's slot is scummy, but I don't see where you're getting PR from.

Now, the only 'TRUTH' you could have seen was his attack on you. Zen didn't show this to you. Nor did I. You came up with the reasoning yourself, Zen presented the case AFTER voting. Now I would understand if you were voting J because you were iffy on Kary, but you were still re-reading him. So this all comes out of left field. You saying 'you saw the truth' from us with your OWN reasoning (which is omgus) shows you are only voting J because we are, amirite?

Explain yourself.

 

[Jdietz43]

What? None of what you just said makes sense Ran. You just quoted my post with my reasoning on J, a second quote of me being critical of J and another one of his actions I didn't understand, and then quote that the truth I saw was what I said... what?

You're going to have to clear that up. And what was wrong with not liking Kary?

 

[ranmaru]

Ok, let's make it simple. You said that regardless of Zen being scum, you saw the truth of J being scummy as well. What exactly did you see when me and Zen voted J, that made you see the truth?

 

[ranmaru]

What? None of what you just said makes sense Ran. You just quoted my post with my reasoning on J, a second quote of me being critical of J and another one of his actions I didn't understand, and then quote that the truth I saw was what I said... what?

You're going to have to clear that up. And what was wrong with not liking Kary?

Where did you get that from?

 

[Jdietz43]

Where did you get that from?

(Ignore it, I misread and thought you were being critical of me disliking Kary which I couldn't understand since Kary's D1 was part of the deal already)


At the time I voted J I saw the following:

A slot who had pushed everyone and had become unreadable from D1
A slot who argued heavily against a cleared townie and had them lynched
A slot who had pushed for my lynch for a terrible reason and seemed reaching
A slot that had made a very strange stance on DH and made two cryptic remarks that needed clearing up
A slot agreeing on J leaning scum, voting them, promising reads and asking for support
And a heavy town read slot agreeing with him (and appearing to also ask me to join the push)

 

[Jdietz43]

EBWOP: cleared should really read flipped. KWK was by no way clear at the time he was lynched, but you know what I mean now that we're in D2

 

[Jdietz43]

(I hope that clears things up for you and everyone, because this has become way more difficult than I think it should have been to explain out. I don't think people were really getting what was going on (or maybe it was me who wasn't idk))

 

[Circus]

Circus, I see you've arrived.

Why do you think DH had a heart attack at Detective's obvious gambit? And why when he came back did he barely say a word?

You've gotta be kidding me. I'm not DH; I have no idea why he did what he did.

Reading up on the posts since the Day started, you seem to have a real hard-on for lynching my slot on nothing. I don't know if you think I'm just going to be an easy lynch because Dark Horse left a bad taste in everyone's mouths or what, but it's shady as hell. You've been clamoring for my head on a pike since the Day started, before I've even gotten a chance to get in the game, and without actually backing up why. I see no town intent there. I have to assume you thought I would be an easy lynch and you wouldn't have to work at this very much. Bad news, bub.

Vote: Jdietz

Also, I understand you're actually in Garg's slot now. That's just too good. Please get lynched.

 

[Inferno3044]

Inferno why did you ask who Jdietz replaced instead of just looking for yourself? It's time to go ham on this *****

Marshy what do you think about getting rid of the sherlock hound guy?

I asked because I was winding down my day and I was too lazy to search the thread. Also even though you asked Marshy, I want DSH dead.

Mass claim it is. We'll use this order:

5. Kantrip/Sokr- Dead
10. Gheb_01- Dead
12. Soup Zen No Lynch- Alread claimed
1. Dark Horse/Circus
2. Gargalione /JDietz43
11. Kataefi
8. Kary/J
4. JTB
7. Sherlock Hound (Red Ruy/Dooms hydra)
6. Inferno
13. Roxy
9. marshy
3. Ranmaru

Doesn't matter so much the order. Mew go ahead and claim.

Right now I am against a mass claim. I don't see it as beneficial. Also you better not claim anything else or I will be mad at you Zen.

i challenge someone to a rap battle

After JDietz, I'll take you on bro

(If you were asking me which one I thought would be more likely to be indy, I'd say J. Kary's behavior seems pretty loose cannon/lone gun moreso than DH)

I actually can agree with this.

Busy with stuff in other games and uploading videos, will post on hydra here later.

I await what you have to say. Especially since you haven't done **** and you can basically consider my vote on you.

(Ignore it, I misread and thought you were being critical of me disliking Kary which I couldn't understand since Kary's D1 was part of the deal already)


At the time I voted J I saw the following:

A slot who had pushed everyone and had become unreadable from D1
A slot who argued heavily against a cleared townie and had them lynched
A slot who had pushed for my lynch for a terrible reason and seemed reaching
A slot that had made a very strange stance on DH and made two cryptic remarks that needed clearing up
A slot agreeing on J leaning scum, voting them, promising reads and asking for support
And a heavy town read slot agreeing with him (and appearing to also ask me to join the push)

Your slot confuses me. Some things about you like this I like but some other things like other interactions with NL make me 2nd guess. J/Karyindy sounds like a good possibility.

Vote: J

 

[Jdietz43]

If it makes it any clearer, here's a timeline of my thoughts D2. Because I really think there was a disconnect somewhere along the line here where people stopped getting what I was doing:

*Jump on thread while eating dinner. See FBI Agent flip. Ask what it is without reading*
*get annoyed at snarky remark since NL hadn't known either*
*fight with J about bogus suspicion originating from said remark rather than what Garg did*
*don't get why no one is even talking about DH's slot, vote him*
*attempt to ignore tunnel-J and assume personal omgus*
*J makes weird statement about "possibilities" and DH that seems suspicious*
*NL starts to go "oh god" at J*
*I realize J replaced Kary*
*Agree with Ran I didn't like Kary D1 unlike NL*
*I start to put two and two together*
*Asked about mass claim, disagree with it*
*Townie joins in, I think he's asking me to join as well, agree and join*
*Re-read to make sure there wasn't anything big I missed from Kary or Marshy*
*Ran misreads my reasoning regarding J not talking about Garg at all*
*Soup*
*?????*
*Un-profit*

 

[#HBC | J]

Tons of votes on me. Reading now. Probably going to be a wall.

 

[Jdietz43]

You've gotta be kidding me. I'm not DH; I have no idea why he did what he did.

Reading up on the posts since the Day started, you seem to have a real hard-on for lynching my slot on nothing. I don't know if you think I'm just going to be an easy lynch because Dark Horse left a bad taste in everyone's mouths or what, but it's shady as hell. You've been clamoring for my head on a pike since the Day started, before I've even gotten a chance to get in the game, and without actually backing up why. I see no town intent there. I have to assume you thought I would be an easy lynch and you wouldn't have to work at this very much. Bad news, bub.

Vote: Jdietz

Also, I understand you're actually in Garg's slot now. That's just too good. Please get lynched.

Ok, fair on the point that you're not DH but the questions his slot left still need answering. There was almost zero town in DH's play whatsoever. He played weak/fearful, asked rhetorical questions as both "scum-hunting" and "responses" to pressure:

So what exactly makes rap skill different than pretty much every other reason that people voted during RVS.

Now, If I wasn't the least bit suspicious, would I be inquisiting him?

So what exactly is "faking suspicion" and actual scumhunting?

Refused to give Kary and Gheb straight answers. Had a heart attack about the oldest gambit in the world, and slipped he was concerned it would catch noobscum in particular (something a town shouldn't concern themselves with. I don't think this was a typo):

-_-

Not even close. I said that Hound's gambit could potentially trip up noobscum. I never attacked him.

Made a sloppy omgus push on Garg. Disappeared for the majority of the day, and when he came back instead of answering some of the questions or pressure on him, he decides to ask another hollow rhetorical question about one of Gheb's lines:

it saddens me that people ignore the words of Kary but listen to the Ramen's ugly shriek!

Interesting. Where are you getting this from?

Then rounds out the day nicely with some one sentence (and word) answers.

Mind digging them up?

Still dislike garg

Ye s

That and my personal understanding of DH meta is pretty much what I've got your slot pinned on.

 

[ranmaru]

Inferno what is your opinion on Circus's vote?

 

[ranmaru]

Wait a minute... wasn't DH/Circus Inferno's strongest scumread?

Inferno, why haven't you commented on him or done anything with your scumread ToDay?