ENTER THE HARDBODY

[#HBC | Nabe]

Ok, so is anyone else even looking at Nabe's terrible push against Kary? Can we just lynch this guy already? He can claim if he wants to, but if he keeps refusing then we really should just get rid of him.

I hope this isn't all you have to say since your last visit. Especially since it has no consistency with your previous visit, and no body of content, and ignores the fact that this is an open setup and that a claim would settle all discrepancies one way or the other. Surely you have an actual opinion on that issue, rather than it being a matter of whether I "want to"?

Nothing else to say tonight.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Except that you conveniently haven't claimed. You know there's 2 town power roles, and you've claimed "that you're one of the two" to make it so both of the actual PRs just assume you're the other one, so they haven't counterclaimed you. This is why you need to actually claim, so we can get this cleared up. But instead, you're wasting time and not doing it, so instead we're just sitting around on our asses while you throw accusations at the people advocating your lynch. Claim, or die. That's the only logical path for us at this point.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

votecount 2.10
nabe (1) - pjb
orbo (2) - kataefi ran
kary (1) - nabe
not voting (5) - rockin xonar death bear orbo kary

voting log
orbo -> pjb -> none
pjb -> nabe
rockin ->
death bear -> nabe -> none
ranmaru -> nabe -> none -> pjb -> orbo
xonar ->
nabe -> pjb -> kary
kataefi -> nabe -> orbo
kary -> nabe -> none

with 9 ballin it takes 5 to hardbody. deadline is 3/29 11:59:59 pm est

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Ho boy I was at page 6 before I fell asleep and woke up 15 hours later. Time to continue.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

How is NAR this game, Marshy?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Read up to 12 this is where i stand atm

Meh:
Soup - gut, distracts by talking about sword while not relevant whatsoever
Kataefi - eww
J - pretentious and ****
Rockin - wayy to cautious and generally bad scumhunts


Sort of like PJB and Nabe

Ranmaru is town
Hilt is town
Kary is townish


Can we just lynch someone from my meh pool? Ill read frm 20 til now and then I consider myself caught up.

Vote: Rockin

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Then I saw Hilt was lynched.

good **** town

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Maybe I can be Kary's doublevote this game.

...or he can be mine!
And then we let Nabe be mine too!

Death Bear is not a priority. Neither is Rockin. Get Kat or Rockin. Maybe not Rockin. Ok let's get Kataefi.

but we still need to keep pressing Nabe. That sucks because he can't vote himself if he's my doublevote.

Sigh.

Vote: Kataefi
Kary's Vote: Kataefi
Nabe's Vote: Kataefi

Ranmaru join my wagon okay? You can apply to be my doublevote on office hours only. Keep in mind, I'm in da Dutch timezone. Peace.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Or maybe Soup. who's the new Soup? Oh it's Orbo. Yeah that'll unravel itself. Sweet.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

How is NAR this game, Marshy?

what?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Night Action Resolution. What's the order of Night Actions?

 

[Orboknown]

kat should show up. Joker's thnking the same way i am wrt nabe, but I dunno if that makes him town. Death bear, talk to me about Joker.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Night Action Resolution. What's the order of Night Actions?

hider
vig/scum kill
detective/psychologist
tracker

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Okay so vig/scum goes at the same time. Cool. Thanks.

 

[Kataefi]

Yes I'm here And yes I'm surprised soup replaced out. I'm in no position to say he engineered a breakdown and replaced out just to play a scum game (if you can even call that playing a scum game...)

unvote

Nabe plz claim in your next post. You've outed yourself as something important to scum - the temptation's there to Night kill you now, making toDay's discussion all about whatever you could be distracting! Please claim so we can wrap this up and move forward with the 6 days we have left.

Also out of curiosity why did you vote Kary over someone like Ranny, who seems to have you unsettled?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Xonie, can you substantiate the reasons for that Kata scumread for me? What has he done that reads scum to you?

Also, can you tell me why Rockin isn't a priority given that the only genuine push he's made this game was to lynch obvtown Hilt?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Kata do you still care what I think of your post against soup?

 

[ranmaru]

Xonie I like Kat because he was pushing scum all day yesterday, unless you think it's a bus. So nah, no go on Kat.

I'm cool with going towards Soup/Orbo tho.

 

[Kataefi]

Yes Mariah, of course! I also care about what you think of Soup right now... And also which player, out of those who were on PJB's wagon, did you consider to be potential scummies? Have you read into them at all?

Nabe is on my to lynch list because of a lot of stuff that has already been said; Lynch all liars and so forth.

Do you think Nabe is telling porky-pies? Also can you into detail about all the stuff that has been said about Nabe and what you agree with specifically?

PJb for all the things I've already spelled out throughout till the start of the day. Secondarily is the fact i feel like he hasn't until recently fit into the same town meta i've been able to so easily read him with before. I still don't feel like i should let go of this however, i'm not sure if it's me being blind or what;

What is his Town meta to you? Also can you spell out your read on him in a concise post so I can read it for reference? Just wanna see more elaboration from you that isn't scattered throughout the thread as it's hard to find sometimes. Thnx bearface

 

[Kataefi]

I asked PJB a question and now... I can't find it! But I do remember it A kurious kat in the Night never forgets...

@PJB: Why did you arrive in the thread at the exact same time as Bardull did when I called you both out? Were you aware of his reads at the time you posted? Oh, also... can you give me the lowdown of what you think of everyone in this game?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Yo Death Bear, I too want to talk about your reads. ANSWER ME.

ISO'd Bardull:

Will lynch: Nabe;PJB;
Not likely: Kata(iffy interactions with Bardull; Soupa; Ran(Bardull spent entirely too much time here for me to read it as scum at this point)
Nope: Rockin;

I take it this is you saying the one person you don't want to lynch given Bardull's flip is Rockin.

Rockin i've more or less had to ignore and of what i've read i can't put him together with Bardull. Call it laziness or rockin just remaining too null for me to pay attention to at this point. If you care to to show me i'm wrong on this; Feel free to lay out what you feel about him.

I take it here you're saying you've more or less ignored Rockin, but you also have reason to believe he can't be scum with BarDulL.

PRAY TELL ME
What is it that sets Rockin apart so? I don't want to show you that you're wrong, as you suggest. I want you to tell me why you can't put Rockin and Bardull together, and why this is true of him more than any other player.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@Kata; yadda blah catchup blah mumble soup read the same blah blah avoiding question yadda mumble

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Xonie, can you substantiate the reasons for that Kata scumread for me? What has he done that reads scum to you?

Also, can you tell me why Rockin isn't a priority given that the only genuine push he's made this game was to lynch obvtown Hilt?

Sorry bro. My Kat scumread is gut, that's why I think triplevoting him is a pretty cool idea.

Rockin is not a priority because pressuring him with a wagon right now will probably make him flip, like always. It's better to just let Rockin do whatever and judge afterwards in my experience. And more stuff but that's for later.

Xonie I like Kat because he was pushing scum all day yesterday, unless you think it's a bus. So nah, no go on Kat.

I'm cool with going towards Soup/Orbo tho.

Sorry Ranmaru it's too late now.

Ranmaru Vote: Kataefi

I see that Ruy is being ******** as always. Liability lynch I'm down. I don't trust him one bit and when I die he might get other people to go full ****** with him.

Kataefi tell me bbycaeks, where is your soup analysis?

 

[Kataefi]

He-man it might be wise to consider clubbing yourself to death

http://smashboards.com/threads/enter-the-hardbody-onwards.334679/page-25#post-15398929

Death Bear is not a priority because...?

 

[Kataefi]

@Kata; yadda blah catchup blah mumble soup read the same blah blah avoiding question yadda mumble

Who is scum to you? I want to get more insight into what you think of the PJB wagon and players who pushed in this direction earlier toDay. I've noticed you've dropped Nabe for now so I'm curious as to where your mind is.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

He-man it might be wise to consider clubbing yourself to death

http://smashboards.com/threads/enter-the-hardbody-onwards.334679/page-25#post-15398929

Death Bear is not a priority because...?

imma read that then answer you

 

[Kataefi]

Why don't you answer the question about Death Bear now?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

He-man it might be wise to consider clubbing yourself to death

http://smashboards.com/threads/enter-the-hardbody-onwards.334679/page-25#post-15398929

Death Bear is not a priority because...?

I actually like that post more than the posts you made before. It looks more scumhunty. Mhmmm that's delicious actually.

Do you think Death Bear should be a priority? I don't think they're extremely scummy neither do I think pressuring them right now is the place to be.

Agreed on the Nabe should claim issue.

Can we just lynch Death Bear / Rockin / Orbo / Kat and call it a game? Wait how are the numbers right now? I think we get two lynches right?

Hnnng okay. Uh. PJB pressure is cool. Might want to reread what he's done so far because honestly I don't even remember him being in the game. Cool.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Why don't you answer the question about Death Bear now?

Because you could've had more priority than Death Bear sweetycakes.
On one hand I want to lynch him. On the other hand I want a better grasp of the players around here before lynching.


What did you expect to gain with a question like this?

 

[Death Bear]

Alright.
i'm here to handle stuff.

/let'sdothis

 

[Death Bear]

Yes Mariah, of course! I also care about what you think of Soup right now... And also which player, out of those who were on PJB's wagon, did you consider to be potential scummies? Have you read into them at all?



Do you think Nabe is telling porky-pies? Also can you into detail about all the stuff that has been said about Nabe and what you agree with specifically?

I'll paraphrase what i told Ryu in our qt. Which is that i feel like Nabe may be using a scare tactic on the other two power roles: i.e : he claims to be one; but not which one and that makes both (if he's lying ) hesitate.

I agree that he's a distraction at this point and needs to claim, eh so needlessly threw himself to the mercy of the wolves just yesterDay but today he remains obstinate, despite the fact that as town he'd realize his reluctance is liable to kill him Not to mention, should he be the Pr that doesn't go first in the NAR, he'd be too dead to us it.

What is his Town meta to you? Also can you spell out your read on him in a concise post so I can read it for reference? Just wanna see more elaboration from you that isn't scattered throughout the thread as it's hard to find sometimes. Thnx bearface

He's more open and forward when he pushes his reads, and when he focuses his attention on someone it reads like he's actually focused there and not along for the ride(which is how i've felt about him). When he reacts defensively he doesn't make himself to be the victim and he is a lot more vocal and just generally a better presence in thread.

After recent stuff I'm stepping back the aggressiveness but not my (Rake's read). I have as null-scum and worth my attention right now. The fact that ryu agrees with me probably puts it into the scum category for all intensive purposes.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Except that you conveniently haven't claimed. You know there's 2 town power roles, and you've claimed "that you're one of the two" to make it so both of the actual PRs just assume you're the other one, so they haven't counterclaimed you. This is why you need to actually claim, so we can get this cleared up. But instead, you're wasting time and not doing it, so instead we're just sitting around on our ***** while you throw accusations at the people advocating your lynch. Claim, or die. That's the only logical path for us at this point.

PJB's previous post was "I don't care if Nabe claims", and this post is "It's imperative that Nabe claims", which is at odds with the former.

PJB says "there's only one logical path" which suggests that he is single-minded about me, and in doing so, I understand the reason to be that I'm somehow 'keeping him' from other matters, or worse, that I am the only player who matters. Given that these options are both backed up by PJB only posting when there's something to be said concerning me, I think I can safely add that we call this "tunneling".

I add the above to the listed reasoning that was previously put forth regarding PJB scum.

And: this is the last post I'll be acknowledging the existence of which asks me to claim and/or accuses me of being scum, while sidestepping the posts I've made pertaining to the issue, as if they in turn don't exist.



Kat, I made it abundantly clear why I voted Kary in my post. The actions I pointed out in that post, when taken together, can only be interpreted as scummy in my eyes.

But you or someone else might now ask why I'm not pressing the issue further, and I'd respond, "I don't care to", which subsequently would be labelled AtE, which is valid (in that all emotional responses in mafia games are branded as such). So let's skip that line of inquiry and just write that notation under my own list of misdemeanors. Yeah? Yeah.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

The following players really need to fix their avatars:
Death Bear
Kataefi

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Sorry bro. My Kat scumread is gut, that's why I think triplevoting him is a pretty cool idea.

Hmm ok. But you don't get out of it that easily. Which of Kata's posts made your gut twist in particular?

Who is scum to you? I want to get more insight into what you think of the PJB wagon and players who pushed in this direction earlier toDay. I've noticed you've dropped Nabe for now so I'm curious as to where your mind is.

Ahh, do your own legwork. I've already said that my problem was moreso I thought it was a bad waggon than there was necessarily scum on it. I'd be very surprised if there were two scum on it, anyhow. At the moment I am re-reading a few people.

 

[Death Bear]

Yo Death Bear, I too want to talk about your reads. ANSWER ME.



I take it this is yousaying the one person you don't want to lynch given Bardull's flip is Rockin.



I take it here you're saying you've more or less ignored Rockin, but you also have reason to believe he can't be scum with BarDulL.

PRAY TELL ME
What is it that sets Rockin apart so? I don't want to show you that you're wrong, as you suggest. I want you to tell me why you can't put Rockin and Bardull together, and why this is true of him more than any other player.

It's the fact that i haven't been able to put him and Bardull together yet. Ryu dislikes Rockin and i've asked him to explain why, As to why, it's because I can't remember an interaction between Rockin and Bardull and going : this is telling or this needs to be looked at. Normally whn i want to push someone based off possible connections, i have something like that worth pushing with. As for why, I could cop out of this and just say because Rockin wasn't around to interact as much due to inactivity, but instead I'm going to say it's because I was more focused with other people than Rockin.

Hope that's clear.

Why, did you think any of their interactions were worth pushing on ?

Talk to me about Xonar, his posts doing anything for yu ?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Karrbear, has your read of Ran been altered given his push on PJB and his absence from the thread and his return into not really pushing anything?

 

[Death Bear]

I find it odd that Kata is trying to push on me without doing it by him/herself.

Need to think more on this.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Karrbear, has your read of Ran been altered given his push on PJB and his absence from the thread and his return into not really pushing anything?

No.

Nabe explain the merits of asking me this question? What does it get you, exactly?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I find it odd that Kata is trying to push on me without doing it by him/herself.

Need to think more on this.

elaborate.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Hope that's clear.

clear as mud.

Death Bear said: ↑

ISO'd Bardull:

Will lynch: Nabe;PJB;
Not likely: Kata(iffy interactions with Bardull; Soupa; Ran(Bardull spent entirely too much time here for me to read it as scum at this point)
Nope: Rockin;​

So I take it from reading Bardull, you wanted to pursue Nabe/PJB
felt better about Kata/Soup/Ran
and saw no particular connections to Rockin.

am I right?

Now, here's my question. Why the **** did you mention that Rockin was null in this respect? Why is it noteable that Rockin was null?