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You know what I mean. Why would you; Someone who was barely being throw around for inactivity : a) need to claim b) be afraid of being killed first at all, when you've been no visible threat to scum ?
Really, Rake?
I don't think he really harped on this until after Rockin brought up the "he lied, so he shall go" thing.
It's answered a page back. Indifferent again. He's going to react to all this eventually and I want to see how he'll handle it.
We don't need to rush this lynch by any means, but it's highly doubtful short of unexpected events I will be as interested and in favor of a lynch; As i am with PJB's.
The hell is this? Stop it. On one hand you say you don't wanna rush, on the other you want PJB to claim? He doesn't claim now. Cut it out.
I am also interested in what they have to say. Thread's going a little slow now.
I don't remember you posting anything that caught my interest. I'm not 100% sure what point you're making against PJB beyond generally being a bit scummy, i'm not sure I really understood your notes. I mean I'm waiting for PJB to respond anyways because i'm not in a rush.
yes definitely address this for me dearest given your position as a huge ****ing question mark
So I'm the first guy in history to vote someone that I'm questioning for purposes of pressure?
This is just you making assumptions. I wasn't making it up as I was going along, it's something I was curious about. Having someone say "i think not everything was completely busted" and thinking that means "that doesn't completely refute all my points against you" is not unreasonable in the slightest, and questioning him about it certainly isn't scummy.
How is me saying "I'm writing off the earlier read as a misunderstanding" not me explaining myself?
This also doesn't make any sense. I was ready to vote nabe, but I didn't throw a vote out at that moment, because I wanted him to respond. He was posting in the thread at that moment, so I was waiting for a response to all the other people pushing him. Then you asked me if I was convinced, and I wasn't, so I voted him. Why is that scummy? What was I accomplishing to aid my scumteam by procrastinating on a vote?
I'm sorry, but I wasn't aware that I was required to post my exact thoughts about every single person in the game every time I change my mind about something. I kinda figured all the posts I made saying stuff like "I changed my mind about X" would kinda tip you guys off, but I guess I gotta put it in a nice little list. Lemme get that for ya in a bit.
I dunno what's so confusing about that. I had Nabe as a scumread I was willing to lynch IN THE FIRST QUOTE YOU POSTED. Why is it weird that I was willing to vote him when the rest of town was getting ready to lynch him? It's not, it's a pretty clear cut line of logic.
I dunno what this means.
Wtf else am I supposed to say here? I read his #306, and it seemed genuine.
Yup
Votes for PJB cuz Ran did such a good job of pointing out why he's scumI'm certainly leaning more towards PJB. As Ran pointed out, he was the next vote after Bard on my wagon last Day, who was driving the wagon, and Ran showed his voting process to be craycray. I had previously been a force of the Bard wagon, so this push also allowed Bard an opportunity to reverse our standing in thread power.
Vote: PJB
(should be L-2)
My other candidate is Ran, and Soup's reread is already shaping up to be a matter of interest there. But I don't see Ran as a lynch, given the analysis I made of my wagon. Not sure what to make yet of his take on PJB and the motivations there, aside from a sudden interest in my cold hard logic
Ran: What is your opinion on what I've said in my defense? I'm not sure I've seen a take on that around or prior to your interest in PJB.
That's not what I'm asking for. You had an intention to push Kat and get him lynched, and the only thing you can say is "Kat dead yet?" I recall you attempting to solidify your read on him and interacting with him, but even Kat noticed how you couldn't commit to it and saw you run away. You're not going to get anything done and nobody is going to want to listen to you if you're not convincing. It doesn't work like that in mafia, just because you vote someone doesn't guarantee anything. This bothers me greatly because I would think you would know this by now, and if you don't, then let me ask what the hell you're doing? You come in here all frustrated and upset with everyone for your lack of play. Where do you stand now? Why is Nabe scum?PJB said:
"Nabe tell me why I should justify myself to vote you because I don't want to put the effort into explaining it." What did you want from Nabe exactly? Your conclusion to the vote doesn't make sense because it's just like something went off in your head and you suddenly scum-read Nabe magically and had a reason to vote him despite anything being said. What were you expecting of Nabe? What about him tipped you off to vote him?
You dropped everything you had going on Kat and your attempt to push him giving up on the ideal that he wasn't going to get lynched, which is only but your fault. In fact, you had one small instance of interaction and you were somehow content with this. Fine with the fact you didn't really do anything and that you were just gonna hope people saw it like you did. You couldn't even explain why you exactly scum-read him, talking about something about him 'pushing easy lynches.' When I asked you to clarify about this, you couldn't tell me specifically what it meant and if you recall I tried to get you to look at it another way. Your refusal to do so just makes it look like you're clinging something without having a reason, but I don't need to point that out when you've even admitted that you don't really have one. What do you want me to do? What do you want Kat to do? Read your mind? No. I can't read your mind. If you're town, start putting in the effort that's expected or get lynched.
Nabe is scum because he, also, is not doing anything. You think my play is lazy and half-assed, ok that's fair. Nabe is literally just as bad, if not much much worse (I'm of the opinion that it's much much worse, btw. Where are Nabe's pushes? Where has he led us?), and here's the kicker. He also made a terrible terrible, incriminating claim. But somehow, I'm the bad guy here. This is just a big fat ****ing pile of whatever. If you can't see why Nabe is scummy, then there's literally nothing I could say to you. He isn't scumhunting, and his town claim was a lie. What in the world more could you possibly want?
What did I want from him? I dunno, for him to explain himself, claim, wutever. Do something to show that he wasn't scum, or that he had secretly been scumhunting all along, and just never filled any of us in on his reads. He didn't do that, but surprise surprise, I voted him and he did something to show he was town. Something we now know isn't true, which you seem to be pretty content with for some reason. You'll have to explain that to me one day.
I stopped pushing Kat because I ran out of things to push. I explained why I was pushing him, in full, in a way that I honestly don't get how people could not understand it. I can only assume they understood it, and disagreed with it. I can't make people agree with me just by saying it over and over again, and I don't see any other way I could say it. As it stands now, the fact that BarDulL pushed Kat for the same reasons I did probably means Kat is clean. Time will tell, but at least I know somebody else saw the same **** I did. Even if was just somebody trying to use that evidence to gain a mislynch. We even posted at around the same time.
I've seen him take initiative for his votes and push things he believes should be pushed. I don't understand how this suddenly boils down to a comparison however, and I don't understand why you're going 'no you should look at nabe not me I am innocent.' You don't believe him? You think he's scum just fakeclaiming? Who's the real PR? Is he just fishing? Why? Why do you think this? You want Nabe lynched? Get him lynched.
No. It's the fact you dropped it. I don't care if you left the thread. What did you get out of Kat? Was it not enough to unvote him? Was it enough to keep your vote on him? Why can't you just say something? Even Kat was wondering where the hell you went with all this for christ sakes. Stop saying you've done nothing wrong because you're doing everything wrong. It shouldn't take this much to just get simple information out of you.
I can understand Nabe's intention to fakeclaim and his reasoning for me. Why does that matter? Didn't he follow through eventually? I thought you were saying he's not doing anything...what was that then?
I need more than a vote. Why did it take you so long to vote him? You only seemed to care after[/] Nabe got pressure.
Why couldn't you just say this? Giving up on Kat simply because 'nobody agreed' is a load of **** too. Nobody could understand you and nobody agreed with your reasoning, obviously that is your cue to clarify or to perhaps look at it another way. Like I said, we can't read your mind.
You're being stubborn right now. You're at L-2 and everyone is wondering what the **** you're doing this game. We're not on you just because. Aren't you just excusing yourself saying that you've been lazy? That doesn't cut it. I don't need you posting all the time but jesus christ it shouldn't be this hard. Where are my pushes? Right here. Why haven't you singlehandely lynched all my scumpicks? You're about to get lynched if you don't do anything about it. It's not unreasonable, and I'm not sure why you're in a fit about this. I expect town to want to scumhunt, and want to lynch scum. You can't lynch scum by doing nothing. You're doing nothing. This post doesn't tell me anything besides that you're asshurt that you're being pushed. Critiquing your play? No, I'm calling you out. I'm calling you on your bull****. What's this about my push on Swords? You mean the read I clarified and told everyone how I was wrong? How I told everyone my Stance? How I lead up on something else? Get it ****ing together. Stop feeilng sorry for yourself. I don't want another wall argument about you ******** about the fact you might get lynched. Either prove us wrong or shut up. This was a waste of my time.
