Elements and Attributes Mafia - Game Over!

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I know that I don't like him still, but I do also know that I'm probably not going to be able to get a waggon him easily. I just wanted to see how he'd react. Although I have to say that I'm kinda tired of him calling people terrible without ever saying why exactly.

Expand on others.

Swords, Foxy, DH, etc.

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

I know that I don't like him still, but I do also know that I'm probably not going to be able to get a waggon him easily. I just wanted to see how he'd react. Although I have to say that I'm kinda tired of him calling people terrible without ever saying why exactly.

Ok. What did you think of AM's push of PJB?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Badwolf, put your vote back on Sworddancer please. AM isn't a play. He just wants his share of attention after being a non-factor most of toDay. Let him do his thing while we lynch Scumdancer.

 

[Gova]

1. Handorin ()
2. BadWolf28738 ()
3. Aggressive Mediation (BW)
4. Dark Horse ()
5. Gheb_01 ()
6. JTB ()
7. frozenflame751 (SWord)
8. Potassium ()
9. Sworddancer. (K, RR, Gheb)
10. Red Ruy ()
12. Foxy the Silver Fox(JTB, AM)

Not voting: Handorin, AM, DH, FF, Foxy

With 11 playing it takes 6 lynch!

Deadline is Monday, June 10th at 11:59 CST (GMT-6).

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Vote: Sworddancer

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Vote Swords.

V/LA until the 7th.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Unvote

Swords claim asap.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

@mod Hando made this post in the social thread:

Since I'm sure it got lost in the game:
I'm V/LA right now. We were getting ready to move. We had some complications with one apartment, so now we're moving in another. Internet access outside my phone will be spotty. Then I'm going on vacation til the end of the July. So you'll probably want to replace me.

Could we get a replacement for him?

So he doesn't miss it.

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

Honestly, without links to these posts, I am not putting that much effort in. I'll bring this post up if I can be asked to read D1 again. Note: Alex is trying to get me to read d1 again.

For you, I'll do it tomorrow

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

Did you ever do anything with this? Why does the game being swingy affect him buying into a track result?

Yes, i touched on it in my bigger post, I feel like scumSwords would make me feel better about the prospect of JTBTown given PJB's efforst to lump them together to offset and help to undersell Swords vote onto PJb's growing wagon at the time. At the same time though I'm getting feels from JTb that are makin it tough to see town through an through

When I see swingy, I assume the worst under every scenario, and take everything I read with an extreme grain of salt. I know from reading previous games of roles that could make it appear as if someone else was at a body, and even weirder stuff.

The fact that it's a openly stated swingy game, and the knowledge of the potential my role has with that regard, there's no reason I should buy into anything after the nightPhase until i get all reasonable questions and concerns out of the way. I was purely hoping that JTB would have a similar rule as opposed to just leaping into Ryu's gambit.

Even working under the assumption he felt it was a gambit, his post read more to me like he was just fine with Ryu's results and was looking for a lynch and maybe moreso than the right one.

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

Why should he consider that idea? Why do you really need any further persuasion for a D2 guilty wagon?

That's stupid safe. You claim he's null after looking at him. This means that you've been stacking up good and what you're implying here is bad. So what's the other half? What's going into it to conclude that he's null. If you think looks scummy, there's a reason for that but you're calling him null, so you're not committing to a stance.

Why not ?

Because it's a openly stated swingy game, and after N2, with how my role has changed I can see why. Everyone should have a much finer grain of salt when they look into / act upon what is done overnight.

I said it could be looked into and I did, again see my larger post wrt scumSwords and JTb, i touch on this there.

I couldn't commit to a stance at the time because I (Rake) needed to re-read JTB

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

Where was this point and how did he react? This means nothing to me.

from myov it was around the time PJB claimed.

Swords made a longer-ish post where he quickly made sure to throw in a easy peasy , arbitrary and non-commital quip about how Joker's PR seemed jus a lil too powerful. He saw that Joker was almost swung out of his lynch an took the chance to knock him down a couple pegs to keep people's ideas on Swords being a bro an not given Joker an inch, when from mypov it was a tack on point to make it seem like something, in case Joker came up again

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

he will not be claiming until I've heard a stance on him, in-depth and well-explained, from DH, FF, Handorin, JTB, and BadWolf. Capisce?

Think this needs to be covered before him claiming. I especially want this from Badwolf, who seems to have gone V/LA without answering questions first.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Foxy without AM responding, thoughts on him?

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

Expand on others.

Swords, Foxy, DH, etc.

Also, what do you gain from asking Badwolf to do this? Why did you ask him this.

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

Foxy without AM responding, thoughts on him?

Town.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also, what do you gain from asking Badwolf to do this? Why did you ask him this.

His reads, I want Badwolf to be someone I can read.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Town.

Why the questions then?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

gog damn it.

ment I want to read badwolf because I doubt him.

Brewyu apolegizes.

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

Which? I have only responded to what he said at first.

Also what's your thoughts on him?

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

gog damn it.

ment I want to read badwolf because I doubt him.

Brewyu apolegizes.

Elaborate on this.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Not sure of Question.

If AM I think he is town right now, he is my prime candidate in a late game scenario. Laundry and Ryker would bus PJB even if I doubt it atm his latest posts D2 is why I doubt him.

Badwolf same, but I hate to misread players like him. He's playing his own way even if he doesn't make sense.

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

So you have no real reason to doubt him, just 'cause?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Gog damn buze stuff.

Well Badwolf, I want to call him town but part of me thinks he is faking this.

I think he wants to day AM is a meanface, even if that isn't scummy at all. But I'm not sure if Badwolf is pulling my chain or not.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So you have no real reason to doubt him, just 'cause?

Which player?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Elaborate on this.

players who can fake bad play are my plague, in one way or another.

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

What do you think of Badwolf just laying a vote down on swords without elaborating further on AM or even answering my (and other's) questions/demands?

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

Which player?

Meant Badwolf.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

What do you think of Badwolf just laying a vote down on swords without elaborating further on AM or even answering my (and other's) questions/demands?

Not sure actually.

I wanna say scummy but...I think he would do that as town. I do not want to QL Swords wirth a claim or reads at all, but imo Badwolf is jumping to gun so he doesn't get lymch at town imo.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

without* I blame the Jim bean.

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

but imo Badwolf is jumping to gun so he doesn't get lymch at town imo.

Re-phrase this, I don't get it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Re-phrase this, I don't get it.

I think he is jumping the gun with Gheb and AM.

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

I think he is jumping the gun with Gheb and AM.

And why do you think he is doing this?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

And why do you think he is doing this?

Badwolf is not amazing with mafia, I think as town he woulld have jump the gun thinking on a surface level.

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

You know what's weird though? Badwolf voted me in Earthbound mafia for opposing multiple power players. That INCLUDED Gheb and Swiss. Yet here he is doing it himself. It's odd.

 

[Foxy the Silver Fox]

Ryu what do you think of what I just said in my previous post?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Odd but not scummy in itself.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

@Rake

JTB and Sworddancer are likely scum together. I'll work on the explanation after we lynch Sworddancer toDay.

Also, I don't care about the claims tbqh. We're not going to gain anything out of it. PJB's role really didn't give us a clue about his alignment and made a lot of people think of a Doc kind of role first. If we lynch Sworddancer we'll just lynch him, claim or no claim - it shouldn't have an influence.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Why in the ****ing world would that affect whether or not we want him to claim.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Because his claim will be useless and not prevent his lynch in the first place.