Event - E3 Invitational 2014 E3 2014 Rumor/Leak Discussion Thread

[ErenJager]

I don't care what people believe in, but they certainly seem to care that I believe it's fake.
I see a slew of poster behaving similar to myself or worse, and are no different right now.
(Ie name calling (jerk) and repetitive posting targeting me and not the topic).

If you sink to a fools level, they'll beat you with twice the experience.

I'll have to take my unpopular opinion to that "unpopular opinion thread".

Sorry if my opinion and a picture of a UFO offended any one.

 

[MasterofMonster]

This came from 4Chan yes. NeoGAF is generally considered a much more legitimate place for actual leaks. The Palutena leak came from 2ch, a Japanese site, but they're usually not very legitimate, they had a **** ton of false rumors during pre-Brawl, so in general leaks can come from any place.

Thank you once more, WarioFan (your avatar does not fit your name). I see. Well, luckily, there's no rule to where legit stuff will show up. XD

 

[Con0rrrr]

After being gone for the night and coming back to the Ridley pixel thing, there's still many possibilities.

1) It's fake. (I may lean toward this now)

2) It's a glitch. Very possible. Considering we've been able to explain everything in the leak except this gives it credit.

3) We only know Pic 1 and 2 are from the original poster. Yes, Pic 3 with Ridley would be hard to photoshop, but also wouldn't an entire roster made without fault be hard to photoshop? (only speaking of pic 1 and 2 of course)

Now I'm still not sure. People were definently too quick to discount the leak after the pixel thing, but they have good reason. I don't know anymore guys

 

[Bladeviper]

After being gone for the night and coming back to the Ridley pixel thing, there's still many possibilities.

1) It's fake. (I may lean toward this now)

2) It's a glitch. Very possible. Considering we've been able to explain everything in the leak except this gives it credit.

3) We only know Pic 1 and 2 are from the original poster. Yes, Pic 3 with Ridley would be hard to photoshop, but also wouldn't an entire roster made without fault be hard to photoshop? (only speaking of pic 1 and 2 of course)

Now I'm still not sure. People were definently too quick to discount the leak after the pixel thing, but they have good reason. I don't know anymore guys

I cant decide ether way, in one corner i dont straight up believe leaks on the other nothing has heavy enough evidence to disprove it to me

 

[Gameboi834]

After being gone for the night and coming back to the Ridley pixel thing, there's still many possibilities.

1) It's fake. (I may lean toward this now)

2) It's a glitch. Very possible. Considering we've been able to explain everything in the leak except this gives it credit.

3) We only know Pic 1 and 2 are from the original poster. Yes, Pic 3 with Ridley would be hard to photoshop, but also wouldn't an entire roster made without fault be hard to photoshop? (only speaking of pic 1 and 2 of course)

Now I'm still not sure. People were definently too quick to discount the leak after the pixel thing, but they have good reason. I don't know anymore guys

Also the posibility that it's just a weird angle thing or that it got lost in transition.

 

[Staarih]

^ Could there be a

4) The Ridley square is supposed to be like that?

...not saying that it looks right or real but you never know, when hovering the puck over the characters, or when picking/choosing them, it could distort the squares or something, making one look different to the others. Or just a weird angle.

 

[Con0rrrr]

^ Could there be a

4) The Ridley square is supposed to be like that?

...not saying that it looks right or real but you never know, when hovering the puck over the characters, or when picking/choosing them, it could distort the squares or something, making one look different to the others. Or just a weird angle.

See this is another thing. I would assume it isn't. But people are very caught up in the CSS needing to be like past games to realize it is a new game. Which makes almost everything in the leak explainable.

 

[Bladeviper]

^ Could there be a

4) The Ridley square is supposed to be like that?

...not saying that it looks right or real but you never know, when hovering the puck over the characters, or when picking/choosing them, it could distort the squares or something, making one look different to the others. Or just a weird angle.

it could always be a ui bug as well, it is a demo most likely running on an older version of the game not tested as heavily

 

[MasterofMonster]

^ Could there be a

4) The Ridley square is supposed to be like that?

...not saying that it looks right or real but you never know, when hovering the puck over the characters, or when picking/choosing them, it could distort the squares or something, making one look different to the others. Or just a weird angle.

It does make sense that Ridley has the biggest Square and name, right?

The leak being real or not, I am having fun with it. As it gives me something interesting to keep track on until E3 comes. If it's real, then yay! My biggest wishes was made (Ridley and 50-sized roster). If fake? I still have a LOT of things to see once more. :3

 

[Deleted member]

A minor note about Marth being translucent, in past games the character was always translucent when the cursor was moved over him/her and became opaque once the cursor actually selected that character, thereby it is plausible that the P1 button hasn't selected Marth, but rather is just hovering over him.

 

[MasterofMonster]

A minor note about Marth being translucent, in past games the character was always translucent when the cursor was moved over him/her and became opaque once the cursor actually selected that character, thereby it is plausible that the P1 button hasn't selected Marth, but rather is just hovering over him.

Indeed. And if fake, that is a neat touch. There's a lot of really creative and/or realistic things to these pics. So it is quite impressive if fake.

 

[Deleted member]

I think it's weird how that "color" option has been added there, I doubt someone faking a leak would add such thing and Sakurai could very well put it there, I mean, the guy is unpredictable! However, there is no real reason to put it on a demo

 

[Con0rrrr]

What if the leaker is the Sal Romano leaker and is just teasing Ridley because he wasn't in his original leak /s

Also, on the color thing. I wouldn't think a faker this talented would add that in as it would make people think he is lying. He would play it as safe as possible. This one goes all out.

 

[Rasumii]

I feel like the only thing Colors would mean is Teams?

 

[Gameboi834]

Not to mention the triangle details. Who would actually think of and implement that but the creators themselves?

 

[Oracle_Summon]

If the Marth is translucent because the player is going to select him, then where is the cursor? If so, the cursor would be right next to the Player 1 button.

 

[Con0rrrr]

If the Marth is translucent because the player is going to select him, then where is the cursor? If so, the cursor would be right next to the Player 1 button.

It's hovering on Marth.

 

[Gameboi834]

If the Marth is translucent because the player is going to select him, then where is the cursor? If so, the cursor would be right next to the Player 1 button.

The consensus is either the person is usig the gamepad or the button becomes its own cursor when picked up this time around.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

It's hovering on Marth.

Where is the hand that has been used since 64? If it was hovering over Marth, then it would include the hand.

 

[Ingoro]

Oh my god, I'm a game artist student and even though we're students. I can tell you honestly you guys clearly look way, way too much into these assets than we would do for a demo (I know there's a clear difference between proffesional and student but still). The people on this board who try so hard to debunk it and constantly mention that "it's sooooo clear that it's fake, like omfg guys be real" are really ignorant, just because there's no space for * insert random cult character * on the leaked screen, this combined with Sal's leak looks really, really likely. Even if this turns out to be a fake I still considerd the chances very high that the roster will end up as something similar.

 

[Staarih]

If the Marth is translucent because the player is going to select him, then where is the cursor? If so, the cursor would be right next to the Player 1 button.

Maybe it's just not there? If you mean the hand. It a staple thing in Smash though I don't know.

I also think the "locks" are pretty creative. If this would have been a safe leak, they probably would have used question marks like in previous installments. Or rather just have the starters in a bunch like in Brawl. But to have these specific locks in. Creative.

 

[Bladeviper]

If the Marth is translucent because the player is going to select him, then where is the cursor? If so, the cursor would be right next to the Player 1 button.

a few options
1. its a fake leak
2. the hand is now gone
3. the ui was just unfinished for the demo

 

[MasterOfKnees]

a few options
1. its a fake leak
2. the hand is now gone
3. the ui was just unfinished for the demo

4. The Gamepad can be used to select characters. Wouldn't expect the hand in that case personally.

 

[Dairz]

While it looks real, I find the Ridley part questionable. Why show a tiny piece of his box when you can show the full thing?

 

[MasterofMonster]

Not to mention the triangle details. Who would actually think of and implement that but the creators themselves?

Excuse my ignorance, but what Triangle Deails, again?

@ Dairz
Maybe he was i a serious hurry trying to sneakily take picures. Or he was scared of showing actual new content. Or he just loves messing with Ridley fans~

 

[Snagrio]

So I take it the leak is still going strong bar the usual naysayers?

 

[Oracle_Summon]

a few options
1. its a fake leak
2. the hand is now gone
3. the ui was just unfinished for the demo

1. That seems obvious to me.
2. No real reason to get rid of the cursor, it has been a staple in the Smash Brothers series and has no reason to be gotten rid of.
3. That seems to be the excuse for a ton of leaks that are given out. Is it possible? Yeah, but it seems to be used to excuse some faults in leak.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

So I take it the leak is still going strong bar the usual naysayers?

It's doing okay-ish. The Ridley icon is a bit misplaced, which is either the result of a poor Photoshop job or a graphical glitch when a character is unlocked, considering it's a demo both are likely, though I'm personally leaning towards it being a Photoshop.

 

[Bladeviper]

4. The Gamepad can be used to select characters. Wouldn't expect the hand in that case personally.

its possible but doubtful since there are other controller options

 

[Gameboi834]

Excuse my ignorance, but what Triangle Details, again?

It's very minute; the person (or development team) added small triangles on each character's slot in the corners, similar to Soul Calibur gamea.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

While it looks real, I find the Ridley part questionable. Why show a tiny piece of his box when you can show the full thing?

This is why the teasing Ridley is so weird to me. Why would anyone do that? 99.9 percent of people with real on hands time with something of this nature stumble upon something like a newcomer who hasn't been revealed yet would take a full on picture of that to share?

It all boils down to me at least that the Ridley picture is fake and the fact it's only is a tease is that a full on shot would give away the fact that it would be old artwork and not new artwork for Smash 4 as the icon.

 

[Bladeviper]

3. That seems to be the excuse for a ton of leaks that are given out. Is it possible? Yeah, but it seems to be used to excuse some faults in leak.

the only reason i keep pointing this out is because of how many times if seen this kinda stuff happen in demos before.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh my god, I'm a game artist student and even though we're students. I can tell you honestly you guys clearly look way, way too much into these assets than we would do for a demo (I know there's a clear difference between proffesional and student but still). The people on this board who try so hard to debunk it and constantly mention that "it's sooooo clear that it's fake, like omfg guys be real" are really ignorant, just because there's no space for * insert random cult character * on the leaked screen, this combined with Sal's leak looks really, really likely. Even if this turns out to be a fake I still considerd the chances very high that the roster will end up as something similar.

That's something, why put too much effort on a demo that is going to be used for just 3 days? No one really cares for how the CSS looks, they care for the characters.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Btw, wouldn't a 3x11 ordered roster be very hard to fit on the 3DS? I guess they could arrange it differently there, but it begs the question why it wouldn't be the same on both versions.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Btw, wouldn't a 3x11 ordered roster be very hard to fit on the 3DS? I guess they could arrange it differently there, but it begs the question why it wouldn't be the same on both versions.

I guess with the 3DS It would have the selected characters on the top and you pick them from the bottom screen.

 

[MasterofMonster]

Btw, wouldn't a 3x11 ordered roster be very hard to fit on the 3DS? I guess they could arrange it differently there, but it begs the question why it wouldn't be the same on both versions.

You have two screens for the 3DS to have the roster in. ^^ Plus, they could Always 'cheat' with using some scrolling stuff.

@ Gameboi834
Thank you kindly, I see it now. Even more reason for me to trust this thing. I'm going with real for now.

 

[Con0rrrr]

Oh my god, I'm a game artist student and even though we're students. I can tell you honestly you guys clearly look way, way too much into these assets than we would do for a demo (I know there's a clear difference between proffesional and student but still). The people on this board who try so hard to debunk it and constantly mention that "it's sooooo clear that it's fake, like omfg guys be real" are really ignorant, just because there's no space for * insert random cult character * on the leaked screen, this combined with Sal's leak looks really, really likely. Even if this turns out to be a fake I still considerd the chances very high that the roster will end up as something similar.

That's where I'm leaning at this point. Even if this is fake, we got out roster

It's doing okay-ish. The Ridley icon is a bit misplaced, which is either the result of a poor Photoshop job or a graphical glitch when a character is unlocked, considering it's a demo both are likely, though I'm personally leaning towards it being a Photoshop.

Here's the thing though. Look at pics one and two, there is nothing to support it being photoshopped. It's all lined up and looks perfect. Ridley however is the only messup. Isn't it more impressive that someone may have managed to photoshop two whole CSS Pics without a sign of photshop? That's what makes me lean towards real.

 

[Deleted member]

Btw, wouldn't a 3x11 ordered roster be very hard to fit on the 3DS? I guess they could arrange it differently there, but it begs the question why it wouldn't be the same on both versions.

For now, the only thing that bugs me is how the CSS is arranged, but I believe it could be one of Sakurai's ideas to prevent fake leaks

 

[Deleted member]

You have two screens for the 3DS to have the roster in. ^^ Plus, they could Always 'cheat' with using some scrolling stuff.

@ Gameboi834
Thank you kindly, I see it now. Even more reason for me to trust this thing. I'm going with real for now.

I think a "scrolling" character select screen is more than likely on the 3DS since probably only one person will be selecting characters on the screen since each player will have their own 3DS system.

 

[Gameboi834]

Oh, and for anyone new here, several uploads of the pictures were mysteriously taken down last night on both Imgur and 4chan.