Dspecial canceling

[xXTACXx]

in case any of you are not familiar with bucket breaking or DKs up b and yoshis side b to cancel vertical and horizontal momentum it helps you survive at really high percentages with proper DI and with momentum canceling. Well samus can do the same thing with her Dspecial. i was experimenting with it last night and lived a DK Fsmash on BF when he hit me at 108%.
Im sure it is not as good as Gaws bucket breaking but its definitly handy to get rid of that little bit of knockback after the momentum cancel. if someone could make a video it would be great.

Also we need a name......something good, like bloop balancing XD

 

[Xyro77]

tell me how and ill do it.

 

[xXTACXx]

tell me how and ill do it.

Momentum cancel by doing a aerial and tapping control pad and right after use Dspecial.

 

[Sago]

this sounds hot

 

[Bil]

I've been doing this since bucket braking was found...I thought everyone knew about it

 

[DelxDoom]

wtf, control pad?

I thought I could just airdodge down b

._.

 

[LanceStern]

Can you explain that better please?

Give me a direct answer. Like say I'm standing on the right end of Final Destination, and someone smashes me at 90% to the right. How do I momentum cancel and then dspecial cancel? Control by control using the GCN controller

 

[KingChaos]

I think i know what you mean TAC and i have used this not sure if it really helped but now I think i'll do it a lot more.Now which aerial starts and ends the quickest so we can down b faster?

 

[Royta]

@ lanceStern:

I pretty much think he means this: when shot away, quickly use our fastest air move (I think it's Bair..we'l need frame data for this..), Di towards the stage and immediatly use downB. This way you'll cancel out a LOT of momentum.

So in order:

- you get blasted away
- use quickest air move
- DI back to stage
- downB

al this in pretty much 1 second or something. Should add 10~20% extra survival power me thinks

@ xXtacXx (mind if I just call you Tac;p?), for a name i'd say " BWHIEWP canceling" or just simply "balls of steel" =) Duke Nukem referances are NEVER a bad thing

 

[xXTACXx]

@ lanceStern:

I pretty much think he means this: when shot away, quickly use our fastest air move (I think it's Bair..we'l need frame data for this..), Di towards the stage and immediatly use downB. This way you'll cancel out a LOT of momentum.

So in order:

- you get blasted away
- use quickest air move
- DI back to stage
- downB

al this in pretty much 1 second or something. Should add 10~20% extra survival power me thinks

@ xXtacXx (mind if I just call you Tac;p?), for a name i'd say " BWHIEWP canceling" or just simply "balls of steel" =) Duke Nukem referances are NEVER a bad thing

please do call me TAC, i had to name myself xXTACXx cuz TAC was taken.
@KC quickest is Uair but they are all so fast, the slowest would be Fair and Dair.

 

[Bil]

I always used Uair and I'm a Life Tank in teams =/

 

[Royta]

@ Tac,
AARAGGGGHHHHHH BY THE MIGHT OF THE LOVING BROILER... i've been using both Fair and Bair ;_;
That makes me a very sad panda...

thanks for clearing that up ;p

 

[The Milk Monster]

Is this legit, and does this really work?

 

[xXTACXx]

Is this legit, and does this really work?

Nah this is a useless technique i posted this thread for nothing :-P

 

[Royta]

****it Tac, Milk saw right through your clever disguise for a actuall MINING FACILITY IN THE SOUTHERN MOUNTAINS in this topic : O


PS: mining facility? wth?

 

[MRS1]

nice

if i ever get a chance to play brawl again ill use this

 

[The Milk Monster]

****it Tac, Milk saw right through your clever disguise for a actuall MINING FACILITY IN THE SOUTHERN MOUNTAINS in this topic : O


PS: mining facility? wth?

Mining Facility?
Wow.

 

[Royta]

Yeah we had to construct Additional Pylons so yeah .. we were secretly constructing a mining facility in this topic (look to the left, just under your desk).

But on a serious note I tried it out and it works pretty well, i just have to un-learn using Fair to regain controle.. ;(

 

[infomon]

Really? I tried it out with DK's Fsmash on the largest possible custom stage (which I've used to test a lot of these) and....... Samus' Dspecial helps for horizontal survival, but by an extremely small amount. I can't see it saving more than a few percent max in actual battles, and I'm not sure the Dspecial is any better than using her Jump. Except that, of course, you save your midair jump to help your recovery tactics.

Just sayin'. It's a good find, I mean that it helps, but don't get too excited.... unless mebbe I'm just doing it wrong lol

 

[xXTACXx]

Really? I tried it out with DK's Fsmash on the largest possible custom stage (which I've used to test a lot of these) and....... Samus' Dspecial helps for horizontal survival, but by an extremely small amount. I can't see it saving more than a few percent max in actual battles, and I'm not sure the Dspecial is any better than using her Jump. Except that, of course, you save your midair jump to help your recovery tactics.

Just sayin'. It's a good find, I mean that it helps, but don't get too excited.... unless mebbe I'm just doing it wrong lol

it works for 8%. Thats great if you ask me . But your right its not like bucket breaking .

 

[infomon]

8% would be good, yeah. But what stage / attack is that?

 

[xXTACXx]

8% would be good, yeah. But what stage / attack is that?

BF, DK fsmash at 108% you can live it.

 

[Rohins]

try uncharged blast, that cuts her horizontal movement.

 

[J4pu]

Breversal uncharge shot I assume
Rohins is too smart, if you have fully charged, think about the percents you could live at, lmao

 

[DelxDoom]

you can't "b reversal" the charge shot.

just turn around shoot like normal. like melee. etc.