Social Dr. Mario Social Thread - Witches? Dragons?...I've seen worse walk into my office.

Doctor_Link · Sep 28, 2015

@NineSwitch Where in Texas?

KenMeister · Sep 28, 2015

NineSwitch said:
Hiya, I'm NineSwitch. I had an account on here before a long while back but forgot my name and stuff. Anyway, I'm a Doc main and I'll be attending more locals soon here in Texas EXCLUSIVELY as him. So wish me luck everyone.

EDIT: And I'll also try to be active on here lol

Wanna join the Doc Skype group then? We're fairly active in discussion and getting games off each other, complete with some of the best Doc mains in the world. Send me your Skype ID and I'll add ya when I get home: thekenster64 or KenMeisterLP

Bedoop · Sep 28, 2015

NineSwitch said:
Hiya, I'm NineSwitch. I had an account on here before a long while back but forgot my name and stuff. Anyway, I'm a Doc main and I'll be attending more locals soon here in Texas EXCLUSIVELY as him. So wish me luck everyone.

EDIT: And I'll also try to be active on here lol

Welcome to the Doc Boards!
I am SmashRiver64, and I will be your local Medical Advisor 'round these parts. :drmario:

MonkeyArms · Sep 28, 2015

Fun Fact: Doc is the most played top 35 PR character in Arkansas.

Bedoop · Sep 28, 2015

MonkeyArms said:
Fun Fact: Doc is the most played top 35 PR character in Arkansas.

For now, Arkansas.
Next, S Tier.
Then, the World.

KenMeister · Sep 29, 2015

MonkeyArms said:
Fun Fact: Doc is the most played top 35 PR character in Arkansas.

Isn't Arkansas a pretty free region, though?

MonkeyArms · Sep 29, 2015

KenMeister said:
Isn't Arkansas a pretty free region, though?

No. Its just no one in Arkansas ever seems to play outside of Arkansas.

Eight_SixtyFour · Oct 1, 2015

It seems that off of sourspot dash attack, you can get fair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsVTheqNfog

KenMeister · Oct 1, 2015

Eight_SixtyFour said:
It seems that off of sourspot dash attack, you can get fair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsVTheqNfog

What percents and weights does this best work on?

Eight_SixtyFour · Oct 1, 2015

KenMeister said:
What percents and weights does this best work on?

I just found the video so I don't know, but I'm guessing around 60s-70s. Surprised that works on Greninja, but down-throw to fair doesn't.

TTTTTsd · Oct 1, 2015

Well aren't y'all happy that Doc isn't largely screwed by the shield changes? His OoS is still absurd and he still has MArio frame data + a reflector to deal with camping. Good on him. Bair is ridonk on shields now BTW.

KenMeister · Oct 1, 2015

TTTTTsd said:
Well aren't y'all happy that Doc isn't largely screwed by the shield changes? His OoS is still absurd and he still has MArio frame data + a reflector to deal with camping. Good on him. Bair is ridonk on shields now BTW.

Yeah, once I heard about the projectiles not being overhauled in stun (maybe less?) I'm pretty sure Doc isn't moving too much in terms of tiers.

TTTTTsd · Oct 1, 2015

KenMeister said:
Yeah, once I heard about the projectiles not being overhauled in stun (maybe less?) I'm pretty sure Doc isn't moving too much in terms of tiers.

Yeah it's mostly shifting around him at this point. He may go up by proxy of not suffering horribly from these shield changes (as will Mario good lord)

Eight_SixtyFour · Oct 1, 2015

TTTTTsd said:
Well aren't y'all happy that Doc isn't largely screwed by the shield changes? His OoS is still absurd and he still has MArio frame data + a reflector to deal with camping. Good on him. Bair is ridonk on shields now BTW.

Yep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-x6qNvnkcM

MonkeyArms · Oct 1, 2015

Eight_SixtyFour said:
Yep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-x6qNvnkcM

Back air, forward air, and all his smashes are safer too. Definitely helped him out.

MistressRemilia · Oct 2, 2015

Yo so there was this Doc/Peach player in TBH5.
He had throw combos that could have been better, and the lack of tornado is kind of unfortunate, but his mobility was very good, so if anyone knows him, contact him cauz i'm interested.

MonkeyArms · Oct 2, 2015

MistressRemilia said:
Yo so there was this Doc/Peach player in TBH5.
He had throw combos that could have been better, and the lack of tornado is kind of unfortunate, but his mobility was very good, so if anyone knows him, contact him cauz i'm interested.

Lack of tornado? Its a pretty easy mash...

Eight_SixtyFour · Oct 3, 2015

MistressRemilia said:
Yo so there was this Doc/Peach player in TBH5.
He had throw combos that could have been better, and the lack of tornado is kind of unfortunate, but his mobility was very good, so if anyone knows him, contact him cauz i'm interested.

That would be

BoTastic! . He's been on this forum a few times. His Doc is still new so he missed out on potential damage. Those commentators were so annoying to listen to.

MonkeyArms said:
Lack of tornado? Its a pretty easy mash...

I think he/she meant general usage of the move. He wasn't using Tornado much (don't think he was using it at all tbh).

MonkeyArms · Oct 3, 2015

Eight_SixtyFour said:
I think he/she meant general usage of the move. He wasn't using Tornado much (don't think he was using it at all tbh).

Well I never really use it unless I'm making a jank mixup, edge guarding, or recovering. The landing tornado isn't really that good to me, compared to Luigi's.

BoTastic! · Oct 5, 2015

I'm sorry. I let all of you guys down. I played awful at Big House, LOL.

WeirdJoe27 · Oct 5, 2015

BoTastic! said:
I'm sorry. I let all of you guys down. I played awful at Big House, LOL.

While it's unfortunate, I commend you on representing the good Doc on the big stage. Glad to see some people refusing to succumb to tier pressure. Keep at it!

Bedoop · Oct 5, 2015

BoTastic! said:
I'm sorry. I let all of you guys down. I played awful at Big House, LOL.

No worries, mate.
We all have our bad days.

tibs7 · Oct 7, 2015

with the shield changes is our fully spaced fsmash safe?
or any smash attack safe on shield now?

and it seems heavy characters are pretty much impossible to dthrow -> fair, am i wrong with this.
uair->upB always works though

KenMeister · Oct 7, 2015

tibs7 said:
with the shield changes is our fully spaced fsmash safe?
or any smash attack safe on shield now?

and it seems heavy characters are pretty much impossible to dthrow -> fair, am i wrong with this.
uair->upB always works though

I haven't tried fsmash or dsmash yet, but upsmash is definitely not safe on shield.

Doctor_Link · Oct 7, 2015

Well fsmash has electricity, so...

tibs7 · Oct 8, 2015

also, this guy aint bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCKHhUFc1rI

Eight_SixtyFour · Oct 9, 2015

tibs7 said:
also, this guy aint bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCKHhUFc1rI

He was the one that compiled a video of Doc tips, which included d throw to fair percentages. Guess he's used to online though. He should use fewer fairs next time.

MonkeyArms · Oct 9, 2015

Eight_SixtyFour said:
He was the one that compiled a video of Doc tips, which included d throw to fair percentages. Guess he's used to online though. He should use fewer fairs next time.

You mean less down throw fair reads.

Giga Kaiju · Oct 9, 2015

tibs7 said:
also, this guy aint bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCKHhUFc1rI

That guy has some sweet combos with Mario and Dr. Mario. I might get me some tips for myself from those videos. Thanks for sharing dude.

MonkeyArms · Oct 11, 2015

I was on the road to winning a tri monthly when suddenly the bullcrap that is the cyclone hit lag glitch made me lose a match. I made the most salty pop off. I seriously could've won but after that I lost all motivation to keep playing.

Basically, if you don't hit the b button on particular frames when hitting the cyclone when connecting it you don't gain hieght. This makes legitimate mashing not work as week as timing button presses on hits. I hate this glitch and the fact that it hasn't been patched over so many updates infuriates me. There is no excuse for this bull. Also not only does this happen with Doc, but this happens with Luigi as well. And I lost ANOTHER set that tournament because of that. My opponents could've beat me, but the fact that the game is basically choosing who wins is bullcrap.

ZeroJanitor · Oct 11, 2015

I'm sure I'm not the first to come up with this but I'll say it anyway.

If you make a custom Dr. Mario with +22 speed, he has the exact same run speed, air speed, and jump height as regular Mario. Not tournament viable obviously, but fun in friendlies.

It's pretty cool, a lot of the combos and stuff he had in Melee now connects again. He can follow his pills in the air nicely, and his improved jump height makes his recovery a bit better.

Downside: might make you sad when you have to go back to slow Doc.

Giga Kaiju · Oct 11, 2015

Using the Dr. Tornado BEFORE any jumps after being thrown out of a stage, actually does help and can cover a lot of space to return to the match.

Just a tip that I found REALLY useful as I didn't do anything of the sort before. Just to say here.

MonkeyArms · Oct 11, 2015

ZeroJanitor said:
I'm sure I'm not the first to come up with this but I'll say it anyway.

If you make a custom Dr. Mario with +22 speed, he has the exact same run speed, air speed, and jump height as regular Mario. Not tournament viable obviously, but fun in friendlies.

It's pretty cool, a lot of the combos and stuff he had in Melee now connects again. He can follow his pills in the air nicely, and his improved jump height makes his recovery a bit better.

Downside: might make you sad when you have to go back to slow Doc.

I like Doc because of his speed though.

ZeroJanitor · Oct 11, 2015

So play vanilla Doc then.

Sari · Oct 12, 2015

Man I never realized how great up-B is for punishing shielders. I've been getting a lot of kills recently by jumping towards people who just shield at the ledge waiting for a punish. Right before they try to grab/attack me (usually when I'm about to touch the ground), I just up-B and it kills them at about 95%. It gets even better if they know it's coming, which usually means they'll shield longer (or just roll) and I can grab them instead.

Giga Kaiju · Oct 12, 2015

That small instant of going out of shield and get hit by an attack is truly the key moment to use Up-B. Is so satisfying when it happens.

meleebrawler · Oct 12, 2015

Giga Kaiju said:
That small instant of going out of shield and get hit by an attack is truly the key moment to use Up-B. Is so satisfying when it happens.

I'm honestly starting to see Doc as Ryu Jr.

tibs7 · Oct 12, 2015

lol doc is notthing like ryu....maybe if we had some invincibility on our shoryu

oh and we have to make reads to make up for horrible movement, so everything we do can be 'unsafe' if we are predictable int he slightest

meleebrawler · Oct 12, 2015

tibs7 said:
lol doc is notthing like ryu....maybe if we had some invincibility on our shoryu

oh and we have to make reads to make up for horrible movement, so everything we do can be 'unsafe' if we are predictable int he slightest

I'm pretty sure Super Jump Punch DOES have invincibility...

Ryu's mobility may be better but not by that much... he is also almost completely unable to weave without Focus Attack.
What he really has over Doc is stronger, more effective footsies.

tibs7 · Oct 12, 2015

bruh i dunno if you are serious.
he has tilts that combo legitimately into shoryu (so he kills better), he has twice as much range on aerials and normals (he out neutrals), he is faster (harder to punish). his focus attack super armour comes out frame 1 (so he can be hard to combo).

and yeah marios upB has invincibility ours just on startup has a pretty large hitbox

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