Dolls War - Vienna, Austria ~ Results are up!

[Mr-R]

Mr. R, if u think DDD is a ghey character, then ICs are uber ghey xD

mr-r ? wtf im not calling u GMONEY either am I ?

 

[istudying]

Mr.R & Gmoney <3

Marth & Falco hm hm?

 

[l!nk_aut]

we also should add olimar in gay characters xD
and ic´s have a huge weakspot...

btw plz for lowtier just e and f

 

[-Jumpman-]

You play MK, no johns



Ike is such a garbage character...even somebody like Mario or Jiggs can beat him by running the clock. He lacks mobility and a projectile thus his camping options are 0. You can wait for him to do his OBVIOUS moves and then **** him.
Many other LT characters do OKish against Ike so it's not a problem.

Ike sucks enough to be LT.

What if the Ike spaces well? Can't be punished.

 

[istudying]

That GIF just made my day. =3

 

[Mr-R]

we also should add olimar in gay characters xD
and ic´s have a huge weakspot...

btw plz for lowtier just e and f

lmao olimar gay ? ur kidding right XD

 

[King Funk]

lmao olimar gay ? ur kidding right XD

Falco...

Why bother continuing the debate?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

wtf? Are you all nuts?

Olimar is the gayest character in this game BY FAR.
And wtf @ "what if the Ike spaces perfectly can't be punished". Yeah spacing perfectly with such an immobile and predictable character is such an easy thing to do. Especially when you lack projectiles and everything that makes good characters ... good.

 

[-Jumpman-]

Ike doesn't lack killing moves, a good jab (best jab in the game) or a decent recovery.

 

[Red Arremer]

He also doesn't lack murderous range.

 

[istudying]

E & F for Low Tier.

Onishiba when will u announce the date?

 

[Red Arremer]

I told you numerous times that I will meet with the hostel September 7th, so tomorrow. If we are able to work something out, you will know the date by tomorrow afternoon. Until then, you will have to wait.

 

[Willz]

If this is in May/June, I should be able to make this.

 

[Iliad]

Lol no sergio or his bro at this tourney

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Ike doesn't lack killing moves, a good jab (best jab in the game) or a decent recovery.

Ike has no safe, reliable kill move. A good jab (not the best jab in the game) and a decent recovery aren't enough.

Jigglypuff has a better camping game, a better grab game, is stronger in the air, has one of the best recoveries in the game and has many good CP stages (Rainbow Cruise, Frigate Orpheon, Lylat Cruise) yet there's no doubt that she'll be allowed.

LT tourney should allow Sonic, Zelda, Bowser, Mario, Ness, Ike, Lucas, Yoshi, Samus, Jigglypuff, Link, Captain Falcon and Ganondorf.

 

[istudying]

Why Sonic lol.

 

[Red Arremer]

Probably because he thinks he's Low Tier.

 

[istudying]

And he also thinks he is fast <(O.o<)

 

[Calzorz]

if i can get money il come to this

 

[Mr-R]

Ike has no safe, reliable kill move. A good jab (not the best jab in the game) and a decent recovery aren't enough.

Jigglypuff has a better camping game, a better grab game, is stronger in the air, has one of the best recoveries in the game and has many good CP stages (Rainbow Cruise, Frigate Orpheon, Lylat Cruise) yet there's no doubt that she'll be allowed.

LT tourney should allow Sonic, Zelda, Bowser, Mario, Ness, Ike, Lucas, Yoshi, Samus, Jigglypuff, Link, Captain Falcon and Ganondorf.

Sonic,zelda,bowser,ike are too good imo, I suggest u play NAT,JUJUX,IXIS,lullo and that spanish ike first . And then make such a statement.

As for ike he has plenty of killing moves, fair, bair, jab to up tilt... and allot more. sure they might not be 100 % safe but that alone doesn't make him low tier

 

[Greward]

ike not having killing moves HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

jab cancel to bair. kthxbye
jab cancel to utilt.
U DUN NOU ENYZING GHEB
I'm pretty sure that Rydle will accept u a MM.

LT tourney should allow Sonic, Zelda, Bowser, Mario, Ness, Ike, Lucas, Yoshi, Samus, Jigglypuff, Link, Captain Falcon and Ganondorf.

Sonic is not low tier, u are low tier.
Bowser doesnt, i dont know what kind of drug u took that day.
Ike? I dont think so. He is too good.
I wouldnt allow ness and yoshi, i think they are too good for being at the same level than jiggly or lucas. I wont say anything about zelda.

So there will be no melee? -_-

Jigglypuff has a better camping game, a better grab game, is stronger in the air, has one of the best recoveries in the game and has many good CP stages (Rainbow Cruise, Frigate Orpheon, Lylat Cruise) yet there's no doubt that she'll be allowed.

Better camping game doesnt mean she's good at camping.
Better grab game? No. Which grab gives her a good grab game?
Stronger in the air? Better in the air, ike is way too much stronger XD
Yeah jiggly's recovery is great.
But as we all know, jiggly is incredibly heavy and has great killing moves and the best ground game ever. [/irony]

Lol kaos, MK is way too gay XD only ICs are gayer than him.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

wtf you guys are all dumb. Obviously.

 

[-Jumpman-]

You def. shoudl stop playing super theory brothers

 

[~ Gheb ~]

No u.

I played Ike myself before CiB as my LT main (then I dropped him because he wasn't allowed). Ike has MASSIVE KO issues against GOOD players. All his killmoves are either predictable or impractical. Fair is always stale and all his tilts are predictable. If you're above 100% you can basically spam your shield against Ike because his throws are weak and never put you in a bad position. The only way Ike can seriously land KO moves is if his opponent is stupid enough to airdodge/spotdodge at the wrong moment.

I wouldn't mind if Ike wasn't allowed because I don't play him anymore but he SHOULD be allowed.

 

[-Jumpman-]

Yeah, Snake gets predictable with his u-tilt, so spamming shield should make you insta-win.

 

[Marcbri]

You def. shoudl stop playing super theory brothers

this.

I don't really care if Ike is allowed, but if it is I hope rydle ***** this ( since he will xD)

it's more like the Ike is stupid enough to not know his kill options if he can't kill his opponent xD.

clearly these players are stupid for losing to Ike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYWUMZwIPMM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxNmACwP27Y

I don't see any moment in that vid where Ike has trouble killing, srsly -.-

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Yeah, Snake gets predictable with his u-tilt, so spamming shield should make you insta-win.

Then he grabs you...dthrow -> utilt. ****.
Also Snake can actually pressure the opponent and has 349713743974 KO moves.

 

[Red Arremer]

Would anyone be so inclined to enlighten me what this talk has to do with my tournament?

I mean, I have nothing against chatting a little Off-Topic, but it's getting out of hand here.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

It's your decision anyways lol. But if you host a LT tourney you should allow the characters I mentioned.

 

[Greward]

It's your decision anyways lol. But if you host a LT tourney you should allow the characters I mentioned.

No, because sonic is mid tier and bowser/zelda/ike are borderline.

 

[Red Arremer]

If I do a Low Tier event, I probably will allow D-F Tier with the exception of Pokemon Trainer.

 

[l!nk_aut]

****. i recommend a vote

btw allow solo popo for lowtier !!!1

 

[K@0S]

There will always be problems making a low tier tourney list because once you restrict the number of characters, the placement of the remaining ones changes because they were worse/better between each others against the removed ones.

The best solution would be to simply take the sbr's low tier list, since it's the most objective value at the moment. Changing it just brings too many arguments, as we can see :/.

 

[Red Arremer]

Good point. As said, I'm thinking of including D Tier (except for Pokemon Trainer, that one is definitely not Low Tier, lol) if I make a LT event. But maybe I won't.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

If I do a Low Tier event, I probably will allow D-F Tier with the exception of Pokemon Trainer.

You're a wise man.

 

[Mr-R]

Good point. As said, I'm thinking of including D Tier (except for Pokemon Trainer, that one is definitely not Low Tier, lol) if I make a LT event. But maybe I won't.

oh what the heck, the more the merrier :D
As long as I dont have to play a falco/ddd/mk when im link, im cool with everything.

 

[Red Arremer]

That you definitely won't. Unless you take your Link into the normal tournament. Then I can't guarantee that, lol.

 

[Tero.]

Sonic belongs into D Tier.
No Johns, it's the truth.
Wait until the next SBR-B Tier List.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Ike has no safe, reliable kill move. A good jab (not the best jab in the game) and a decent recovery aren't enough.

What Jab is better?

LT tourney should allow Sonic, Zelda, Bowser, Mario, Ness, Ike, Lucas, Yoshi, Samus, Jigglypuff, Link, Captain Falcon and Ganondorf.

lolwut?


Sonic is a mid tier, he's got the speed and set-ups, plus he's got the ability to maintain his options in way more situations then anyone in low tier can, forcing other players to commit and allowing him to play reactively.

Played properly Sonic is way to abusive for low tier.


What, Europe not have any good sonics?

Sonic belongs into D Tier.
No Johns, it's the truth.
Wait until the next SBR-B Tier List.

Why?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

What Jab is better?

Falco and Luigi for sure.