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Do you agree with having to buy both versions for Mewtwo?

Meelow

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Nintendo also said the Hyrule Warriors pre-order DLC costumes will be paid DLC too. But so far that has not eventuated. Lets hope Mewtwo is not as royally messed up as the HW pre-order DLC costumes were.
It takes a lot of work to make a character, they aren't going to limit Mewtwo to people who only have both versions.
 

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I see your humour. Nice joke. (totally not true what you said but it sure is funny)
Mario 3 and Mario World legend >>> some nameless, FE character nobody knew :secretkpop:
 

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Mario 3 and Mario World legend >>> some nameless, FE character nobody knew :secretkpop:
A whole new character > a skin of another character.
Also Melee was advertising for FE Roy and that's where a he got a lot of fans (me included). Many people who play Smash now were not alive or too young to remember Super Mario 3 coming out for the NES. Only people with large nostalgia glasses would think SMB3 Roy is better.
But the facts are, you can choose the SMB3 Roy skin if you want, in SSB4. But if you want to play FE Roy, you have to boot up Melee. So FE Roy won't get much play time for the forseeable future.
 

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A whole new character > a skin of another character.
Also Melee was advertising for FE Roy and that's where a he got a lot of fans (me included). Many people who play Smash now were not alive or too young to remember Super Mario 3 coming out for the NES. Only people with large nostalgia glasses would think SMB3 Roy is better.
But the facts are, you can choose the SMB3 Roy skin if you want, in SSB4. But if you want to play FE Roy, you have to boot up Melee. So FE Roy won't get much play time for the forseeable future.
I'm alive. NES root kid knows best. Sorry, Mario Roy is not a skin, but an original character. Bowser Jr is the skin. Only people with large Melee goggles would think FE Roy is better. He's been replaced. :love:
 
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Since the whole 'If you don't have both versions you'll have to pay for DLC to get Mewtwo' thing is most likely true, I think it's fine. I'm getting both versions anyway.
 

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Bad trolling aside(Since FE!Roy was never actually replaced, and if anything, it's by Ike, who took his Flare Blade, and general concept and make it into a unique moveset)...

Look, it's blatantly obvious that Mewtwo will not be a completely limited time-offer. It's limited time for the free bit only. For all we know, he could be free DLC later if enough complaints are vocal. Less likely than paid. But it's common sense for Smash. If a character will be available for DLC, it'll be for all time. Smash is completely sold based upon its roster selection. Characters drive the game. That's why some are happy with the clones because they really wanted that character in. Of course gameplay does matter, but far more for the developers than the fans.

Now, can we please just stop with this? There's a 99.999999% chance Mewtwo will be dlc past his original planned "free limit" anyway. You could be right. In fact, people have said this. But it's very beyond likely that it's not worth continuing the topic. A tiny chance of something isn't worth a huge topic over. That's something to ask in the Social thread at best.

the8thark, I'm going to make an honest suggestion to you; You have a lot to say, somewhat mostly rants, but none the less, quite a lot. Smashboards has a blog system, if I remember correctly. You should post your thoughts there. This is only because some of your topics tend to go haywire.
 

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That's assuming that buying both versions is the ONLY way to get him, which would be highly out of character from both Sakurai and Nintendo.

Why did they specifically stress that Mewtwo was free IF you bought both versions of the game when that's the only way to get him? It makes no sense.

This promotion is used as an incentive (which is fine by me) to see if people are interested in buying both versions (which in my case I will buy the Wii U version along owning the 3DS version). However, I highly doubt that this promotion is the only way to have Mewtwo. If anything, Mewtwo will be available as paid DLC.
 

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I just thought I'd also point out that making mewtwo free for people with both systems lets Nintendo avoid the issue of them not offering crossbuy on the eshop
 

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I don't agree that the DLC was Mewtwo when it should have been Dixie Kong.

Dixie kong isn't unique, she looks like Diddy in drag. Wanting dixie kong is like wanting Shadow the hedgehog. Its the same type of character. Mewtwo is unique and brings something different to the table. Lucario isn't a clone of him either because they only share the neutral B . other than that they have different animations all together.
 

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Dixie kong isn't unique, she looks like Diddy in drag. Wanting dixie kong is like wanting Shadow the hedgehog. Its the same type of character. Mewtwo is unique and brings something different to the table. Lucario isn't a clone of him either because they only share the neutral B . other than that they have different animations all together.
Their Neutral B's are widely different, so not even that.

Dixie cannot be a clone of Diddy. Like, at all. They could share some moves, but she'd only have some of the kicks/punches. She doesn't have the same equipment either. Honestly, she's more like Wario is to Mario at this point. While they can share abilities, they are too different to play the same or fairly similar. Dat hair cannot work as a tail. She doesn't even have a tail. Apples to Oranges. Dixie is rather unique from Diddy and has been for a while.

The Shadow comparison is also pretty horrible. He has chaos powers, can use guns, vehicles, float in the air while attacking in combos(something Sonic has none of) and as of now, their only common moves is the Flame Roll, Homing Attack, and slightly similar Jump. At best. A lot of characters have evolved back from when they were similar to a previous one.

The only thing I agree upon is that Mewtwo should be back before Dixie gets added and that's it. The rest is not very accurate at all.
 

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Their Neutral B's are widely different, so not even that.

Dixie cannot be a clone of Diddy. Like, at all. They could share some moves, but she'd only have some of the kicks/punches. She doesn't have the same equipment either. Honestly, she's more like Wario is to Mario at this point. While they can share abilities, they are too different to play the same or fairly similar. Dat hair cannot work as a tail. She doesn't even have a tail. Apples to Oranges. Dixie is rather unique from Diddy and has been for a while.

The Shadow comparison is also pretty horrible. He has chaos powers, can use guns, vehicles, float in the air while attacking in combos(something Sonic has none of) and as of now, their only common moves is the Flame Roll, Homing Attack, and slightly similar Jump. At best. A lot of characters have evolved back from when they were similar to a previous one.

The only thing I agree upon is that Mewtwo should be back before Dixie gets added and that's it. The rest is not very accurate at all.
I'd say Dixie is to Diddy as Luigi is to Mario.

Wario is to Mario as Donkey Kong is to Diddy Kong.

They'd have different moves, but they're very similar. So it wouldn't make much sense for them to play drastically differently. That's something you have to consider (for a younger audience) as well.
 

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I'd say Dixie is to Diddy as Luigi is to Mario.

Wario is to Mario as Donkey Kong is to Diddy Kong.

They'd have different moves, but they're very similar. So it wouldn't make much sense for them to play drastically differently. That's something you have to consider (for a younger audience) as well.
And Luigi has been widely different from Mario only mostly in the SSB series. The Sonic to Shadow comparison was better since they're barely similar now. Dixie just won't work as a clone, but maybe a semi-clone. More like Wolf at best.
 

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Dixie kong isn't unique, she looks like Diddy in drag. Wanting dixie kong is like wanting Shadow the hedgehog. Its the same type of character. Mewtwo is unique and brings something different to the table. Lucario isn't a clone of him either because they only share the neutral B . other than that they have different animations all together.
1/10 for making me post.
 

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Who even cares? Why the **** WOULDNT you get the Wii U version? Chances are you already have it for 3DS anyway and its not like the Wii U version wont be the definitive version.
Because a Wii U is an entire console and some people are satisfied with the 3DS version. If someone was wanting Smash but had neither a Wii U or 3DS, the Wii U version would probably win out if they had to choose.
 
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Solution: Buy both systems and games, both systems have a fantastic selection of games and are worth the money. Smash Bros 3DS is better for travel, with shorter classic mode, quite a few trophies to find, and Smash Run is a pretty fun mode for a bit. Wii U version is superior in most ways to the 3DS version, but it's better for home and tournaments. Two different games made for separate purposes.

Don't have the money for both? Buy the Wii U and it's version and wait a few months for Mewtwo.
 
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I may be mistaken about this, or simply I'm having a hard time understanding what that really meant.
I know every already talked about it, but if I were to ask again (and I do apologize if I made everybody repeat), would it mean if you already had a 3DS version but you'll buy the Wii U version later on, you'll still download Mewtwo for free?
Or if you join Club Nintendo and prove yourself that you have both versions, you'll obtain it for free instead? Because I don't know, for the special soundtrack you can get the CD if you join Club Nintendo and prove you have both versions by entering the serial number and get it for free. So would that do the same thing for Mewtwo's free download?
I just really don't know how. Everybody say you can get it from E-shop but what if there was a different way? The direct kinda lacked instruction, or its just me having difficulties understanding that part...

Sorry for such unnecessary repeat though.
 

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I may be mistaken about this, or simply I'm having a hard time understanding what that really meant.
I know every already talked about it, but if I were to ask again (and I do apologize if I made everybody repeat), would it mean if you already had a 3DS version but you'll buy the Wii U version later on, you'll still download Mewtwo for free?
Or if you join Club Nintendo and prove yourself that you have both versions, you'll obtain it for free instead? Because I don't know, for the special soundtrack you can get the CD if you join Club Nintendo and prove you have both versions by entering the serial number and get it for free. So would that do the same thing for Mewtwo's free download?
I just really don't know how. Everybody say you can get it from E-shop but what if there was a different way? The direct kinda lacked instruction, or its just me having difficulties understanding that part...

Sorry for such unnecessary repeat though.
I'm sure it'll be better explained later. It's implied to be available through other means, unlike the CD's. I think you have to register both your copies and download it in a time window. What we don't know is if you have to register your copies in that exact time window or not. I think he'll explain that one a bit later, probably around when the Wii U version releases. That should be noted right away so nobody is screwed out by accident.
 

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Does it only work with the first 3DS linked to the Wii U, or multiple? If so, can't friends just help get the character?

In my house I have multiple people with SSB3DS so it would suck if it were only one person...
That's a good question. I already have an original 3DS... but I'm planning to upgrade to New 3DS... and I'd like to have Mewtwo and any DLC stuff in both 3DS and New 3DS.
 

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That's a good question. I already have an original 3DS... but I'm planning to upgrade to New 3DS... and I'd like to have Mewtwo and any DLC stuff in both 3DS and New 3DS.
It's tied to your NNID, so I doubt anyone could automatically download it without registering. Maybe already connecting to a Wii U version that has it will let you have him? That would make sense.
 

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I'm pretty sure buying both versions is just to get him free, he's going to available otherwise, just not free
 

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the8thark, I'm going to make an honest suggestion to you; You have a lot to say, somewhat mostly rants, but none the less, quite a lot. Smashboards has a blog system, if I remember correctly. You should post your thoughts there. This is only because some of your topics tend to go haywire.
Nice suggestion and thank you. I might just take you up on it one day. All of my topics have had good discussion in them. Some of it praise for SSB and some of it constructive criticism, nothing inherently bad there. I also can not control what others post on the forums. We all just make topics and it's everyone else who decides in what direction the topic will go.

If any of the topics I made went really off the rails and devolved to just petty arguments, then a moderator will lock the topic. if that does not happen, then the topic has not gone haywire and is still good for chat.

Back on topic, I can't wait for next year when Nintendo announce the hard details on the Mewtwo DLC. But by then we all will be enjoying the base game so much.
 

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People who bought both versions SHOULD be rewarded
 

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I'm not a fan of the practice overall, especially with no interest in the 3DS version. Luckily I was able to trade a DLC code I wasn't going to use for a Smash 3DS registration code with someone who isn't going to buy a Wii U so I suppose I have it covered.
 

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I'm talking timed exclusive content like mewtwo or stages
The CD set is an even cooler reward than ingame content. And there's no reason to ***** about the CD pack like people would ***** about ingame content that is exclusive this way. People are already wanting Mewtwo to be paid DLC. But I have heard very few saying the CD pack should be purchasable too without buying both versions of the game. That's the difference I think.
 

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The CD set is an even cooler reward than ingame content. And there's no reason to ***** about the CD pack like people would ***** about ingame content that is exclusive this way. People are already wanting Mewtwo to be paid DLC. But I have heard very few saying the CD pack should be purchasable too without buying both versions of the game. That's the difference I think.
Easy there tiger. I do love the cd as well. My view is just different
 

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Easy there tiger. I do love the cd as well. My view is just different
And you're entitled to have it. I was just saying most people won't care too much about a CD needing both games to have but a character? People will complain lots about that if it was not paid DLC one day. I agree with you if it was also paid DLC, then Nintendo can go to town with it.
 
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I'm sure you don't have to get both versions for Mewtwo. That's just a promotion where Mewtwo becomes free to those who register both versions of the game. It's just a bonus for those who have both versions of the game. Said free offer will last for a limited time too.

Pretty sure Mewtwo will be available as paid DLC for everyone.
 

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The CD set is an even cooler reward than ingame content. And there's no reason to ***** about the CD pack like people would ***** about ingame content that is exclusive this way. People are already wanting Mewtwo to be paid DLC. But I have heard very few saying the CD pack should be purchasable too without buying both versions of the game. That's the difference I think.
Personally, I've been annoyed with the lack of Nintendo soundtracks on CD for a while now. The Wind Waker was the last Zelda game to get a CD set you could actually buy, and anything else has been a promotion that didn't have more than a few tracks, and I'm still sad that Nintendo seems to have ignored pleas for a Symphony of the Goddesses CD. But hey, that's just me.
 

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I'm not bothered by it. Nintendo has to give everyone an incentive to purchase the Wii U and SSB on it when they already have the 3DS version. Although I don't think that even Mewtwo alone can do that, sadly.
 

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I already reserved the game last sunday so it wont be a problem for me to get mewtwo, and i had in mind buy both versions since a long time ago.
I know it can be kinda harsh this type of reward, but it can better for you if you only have one version and pay for it like 5 - 15 dlls
instead of buying 2 versions and spend $100 dlls (plus tax), in my case i just wanted the two versions.
 

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They didn't "royally mess up". The game's barely been out. Any time any game on any platform has pre-order DLC that is available later to everyone, it's usually... you know, later. They weren't going to make it immediately available.

Not to mention, the DLC's probably handled by Koei-Tecmo.
People do not appreciate waiting months or years for the DLC (that some others already have) . They would rather have it while their interest in game is still high. And your post makes me think those without both Smash games could be waiting months or years for the Mewtwo paid DLC too. I hope the Hyrule Warriors mess is Koei-Tecmo and not Nintendo. And lets hope Nintendo to a better job with the Smash DLC.
 

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I'm surprised people even think Mewtwo is a timed exclusive. I guarantee you he'll be available to everyone at the same time, or at most people who register both systems might get him a week early. Otherwise the difference will just be paying vs not paying
 
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