Do NOT upgrade your Wii to 4.2 through Nintendo -- Safe Update!

Isatis · Sep 30, 2009

So I heard bannerbomb is being fixed to run on 4.2

Thoughts?

Frown · Sep 30, 2009

So they figured out a way to run HBC on 4.2? I can't say I'm surprised.

Talon · Sep 30, 2009

oh god yes. My idiot of a roommate updaed my the horror of not having my b+. T^T

illinialex24 · Sep 30, 2009

Talon said:
oh god yes. My idiot of a roommate updaed my the horror of not having my b+. T^T

You can still use Homebrewless B+ at the moment, it works fine.

Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz7fk96wCGw&fmt=18

kupo15 · Sep 30, 2009

n88_2004 said:
@Neon Togepi

Actually, TP is a GC game ported to Wii. So it's available on GC.

SMG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sunshine

Anywho, I can't use my Wii right now, so this isn't really a problem at the moment. Definitely good to know.

Sunshine def better. I'm not entirely sure why people hated sunshine. Not as good as 64 but loads better than SMG because it was more traditional exploration stuff.

:V said:
Dont update.

Use Gecko OS.

Best of both worlds.

So let me get this straight. I pop in SMG2, load Gecko, click run like B+? Or is it one of the other options below run?

Eternal Yoshi said:
When it comes to the Wii, Nintendo is fighting a battle they already lost. It's like trying to fight in the results screen of Brawl. It doesn't make a difference because the match is over. They should just move on to something else.

Yea, its kinda like us and the flu. We lost the war but we need to keep fighting the next strain. We are always one step behind.

illinialex24 said:
4.1 is actually the ideal version according to almost every Homebrew user.

why is that?

Maybe I should install Bootmii, unless I already have it. I'm so lost in the world of hacks

Isatis · Sep 30, 2009

It’s really sad, but that wasn’t exaggerated at all. The first reports about bricks due to this official boot2 update are reported on Nintendo’s forums. Replies, which Ninty doesn’t like, are getting deleted. Anyway, it’s up to you if you want to risk it.

Wow... just wow.

Eternal Yoshi · Sep 30, 2009

Talon said:
oh god yes. My idiot of a roommate updaed my the horror of not having my b+. T^T

Be thankful it still works.

http://www.n-sider.com/contentview.php?contentid=3950

http://techforums.nintendo.com/nins/board/message?board.id=wii_tech&thread.id=29914

This won't end well.

n88 · Sep 30, 2009

@kupo

Since when was Mario about exploration? Traditional Mario is pretty much:

Beat Level>Get taken to new level>Repeat

The exploration is hardly traditional. I didn't hate Sunshine, I just vastly preferred Galaxy.

The replies getting deleted thing is kinda sad and really pathetic.

illinialex24 · Sep 30, 2009

Hackmii .5 is out yeayah

DQP · Sep 30, 2009

n88_2004 said:
The replies getting deleted thing is kinda sad and really pathetic.

i concur. it almost proves that nintendo doesn't care for us :cry:

oh well. if the new fix is out, i'll definitely download it. i'm guessing it's on wiibrew? if not, perhaps someone could post a download link?

kupo15 · Sep 30, 2009

n88_2004 said:
@kupo

Since when was Mario about exploration? Traditional Mario is pretty much:

Beat Level>Get taken to new level>Repeat

The exploration is hardly traditional. I didn't hate Sunshine, I just vastly preferred Galaxy.

The replies getting deleted thing is kinda sad and really pathetic.

I meant traditional 3d mario, which is like, one predecessor. lol

Mario & Sonic Guy · Sep 30, 2009

DQP said:
i concur. it almost proves that nintendo doesn't care for us

oh well. if the new fix is out, i'll definitely download it. i'm guessing it's on wiibrew? if not, perhaps someone could post a download link?

You'll never get a download link here. All Homebrew download links are removed to prevent piracy. Google for it if you have to.

Popcornio · Sep 30, 2009

I hope people who already Homebrewed their Wii didn't consider upgrading and just ignored it all together. Hell, I'm still running verson 3.4u. :l

Mario & Sonic Guy · Sep 30, 2009

Popcornio said:
I hope people who already Homebrewed their Wii didn't consider upgrading and just ignored it all together. Hell, I'm still running verson 3.4u. :l

Well, if anyone read illinialex24's latest thread, they would surely think twice about their decision. No one likes a bricked Wii after all.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=250760

Kirbunny431 · Sep 30, 2009

Okay, so I understand this sucks very much. But let's say all I have is Homebrew and Ocarina inside of Homebrew. I don't get a brick, right?

(Really sorry for posting this again, just really a paranoid guy afraid of throwing $250 down the drain.)

illinialex24 · Sep 30, 2009

Make sure you do a nand dump but Ocarina is a **** program, use Gecko OS and your like guaranteed not to brick. Just remember that Nintendo's new update is chances are more likely to brick your Wii than hacks will if your smart.

EpE · Sep 30, 2009

MK26 said:
What is this mysterious "Indiana Pwns", and why have i never heard of it?

it released this same week lolz

Kirbunny431 · Sep 30, 2009

"Nand Dump?" Whatever, I'm never updating again unless I have to to play a game. And yes, Ocarina is $***. I know nothing about this technical stuff.

illinialex24 · Sep 30, 2009

Nand dump is a 1:1dump of the flash memory on the Wii. In short, you can make an exact copy of it. This isn;t very useful unless you by some chance happen to be able to restore it. Then it becomes very very useful, for any time you can load the restorer, you could undo any changes made to your Wii.

comboking · Sep 30, 2009

I updated IOS61 and also updated the shop channel. Anything I still need?

Kirbunny431 · Sep 30, 2009

illinialex24 said:
Nand dump is a 1:1dump of the flash memory on the Wii. In short, you can make an exact copy of it. This isn;t very useful unless you by some chance happen to be able to restore it. Then it becomes very very useful, for any time you can load the restorer, you could undo any changes made to your Wii.

Maybe I'll just copy my data to SD card if worse comes to worse when I get New Super Mario Bros. Wii...

illinialex24 · Sep 30, 2009

You'll need Waninkoko's save game manager or a remove copy flags option to do so.

comboking · Sep 30, 2009

comboking said:
I updated IOS61 and also updated the shop channel. Anything I still need?

The new hackmii installer is ready. What files do I replace for the new one? I should go make a backup NAND

Eternal Yoshi · Sep 30, 2009

Oh boy. Aparrently there's a report of someone's Wii not being able to read discs properly anymore after updating to 4.2.

http://techforums.nintendo.com/nins/board/message?board.id=wii_tech&thread.id=29904

comboking · Sep 30, 2009

Nintendo needs a way to only stop Piraters.

Isatis · Sep 30, 2009

That's what IOS222/223/249/250 as stubs was meant for.

illinialex24 · Sep 30, 2009

Bionic Sonic said:
That's what IOS222/223/249/250 as stubs was meant for.

Except they radically messed that up lol.

comboking · Sep 30, 2009

How do I use the new Hackmii installer?

Isatis · Sep 30, 2009

comboking said:
How do I use the new Hackmii installer?

No discussion of that here please. Talking about this is against the rules.

illinialex24 · Sep 30, 2009

Yeah, SWF policy says that the discussion of the installation of Homebrew software and WAD's shall not be discussed whether or not it is legal in question. By WAD's I mean channel WAD's.

Firus · Sep 30, 2009

NeonTogepi said:
A lot of people like sunshine better than galaxy. I do. Galaxy is overrated as hell.

Couldn't have said it better myself. =D

WheelOfFish said:
... more like:

But in all honesty, Nintendo can't stop hackers. They're only making their jobs harder.

God, I know. I love the spin they put on it.

Besides, all of these stupid updates saying "BEHIND-THE-SCENE FIXES LULXXORZ"...like, I don't even buy that, you can tell the only thing they're doing is screwing Homebrew and such.

RetroS said:
I'm no lawyer, but thinking like one...
If homebrew is indeed legal, this update may remove homebrew, but I think if it bricks your wii, Nintendo could be held responsible for some sort of malicious intent or perhaps destruction of property... I could be wrong about that. I don't think Nintendo would pull a jerk move like that anyway even if they couldn't be sued (They're trying to stop piracy, not punish it--I think), so I doubt that brickage is something to worry about.
EDIT: I thought of this based on EA Games getting sued--but now that I think about it, that was a PC game, and people have much more rights when it comes to computers. So instead of might be wrong, let's say there's a good chance that I'm wrong.

Once you agree to their Terms of Service, they have the right to brick your Wii if you don't abide by them. As such, what Nintendo is doing is obnoxious and controlling, but not illegal in the slightest.

And the misconception that not abiding by Terms of Service once you've agreed to them is illegal is incorrect. Homebrew itself isn't illegal, only the use of it to do pirate things.

RoyMaster4 said:
I want to update just to update (Since I prefer legality)

It's not illegal to not have the most current firmware, why would it be...?

Bionic Sonic said:
Wow... just wow.

Ugh, that's absolutely sickening.

Seriously, Nintendo's so full of crap. I can probably count on one hand the number of times Nintendo's put out an update that does anything other than kill Homebrew/AR/some other thing they don't like. Let's be perfectly honest, this is NOT just about pirating, and people who act like that's the big thing are kidding themselves. As I just mentioned, AR. AR does nothing illegal at all. Nintendo just kills it so you can't do something they don't like, which is a combination of using codes of any sort and bypassing the region lock -- which is really borderline legal, in all actuality, considering that it is basically a way of price-fixing.

This is just more of Nintendo insisting that you play THEIR way.

Now, doesn't this make you nostalgic for the days where teh intrawebz were much less prominent and game companies couldn't stop you from doing what you want to by updating your console wirelessly?

illinialex24 · Sep 30, 2009

FirustheHedgehog said:
God, I know. I love the spin they put on it.

Besides, all of these stupid updates saying "BEHIND-THE-SCENE FIXES LULXXORZ"...like, I don't even buy that, you can tell the only thing they're doing is screwing Homebrew and such.

They actually fixed the Conduit spawn glitch with a new IOS.

Once you agree to their Terms of Service, they have the right to brick your Wii if you don't abide by them. As such, what Nintendo is doing is obnoxious and controlling, but not illegal in the slightest.

And the misconception that not abiding by Terms of Service once you've agreed to them is illegal is incorrect. Homebrew itself isn't illegal, only the use of it to do pirate things.

Yeah, they can **** you over good. But there is more than just pirating, installing a new WAD for some stuff is illegal if it isn't gotten from Nintendo's servers, anything involving their code and more is illegal.

Seriously, Nintendo's so full of crap. I can probably count on one hand the number of times Nintendo's put out an update that does anything other than kill Homebrew/AR/some other thing they don't like. Let's be perfectly honest, this is NOT just about pirating, and people who act like that's the big thing are kidding themselves. As I just mentioned, AR. AR does nothing illegal at all. Nintendo just kills it so you can't do something they don't like, which is a combination of using codes of any sort and bypassing the region lock -- which is really borderline legal, in all actuality, considering that it is basically a way of price-fixing.

This is just more of Nintendo insisting that you play THEIR way.

Now, doesn't this make you nostalgic for the days where teh intrawebz were much less prominent and game companies couldn't stop you from doing what you want to by updating your console wirelessly?

And they completely screwed up doing it in the process. They ended up hurting non hackers more than hackers.

Acedude55 · Sep 30, 2009

>_>

If gecko can get past needed updates why ever bother to update...ever? > - >

SymphonicSage12 · Sep 30, 2009

^ your avatar is awesome

illinialex24 · Sep 30, 2009

Acedude55 said:
>_>

If gecko can get past needed updates why ever bother to update...ever? > - >

Because it just skips the check. If the IOS doesn't wotk or is missing, black screens are a LOT of fun. Trust me on that.

Isatis · Sep 30, 2009

^ your avatar isn't as cool (@sage, not alex)

Waninkoko's firmware updater 4.2 is out, but I don't give it the all-clear still.

SymphonicSage12 · Sep 30, 2009

I know that. it's the only good one I could find.

although...I took this totally dope pic of wario. I should make it my avatar. it's ****ing hilarious XD

comboking · Sep 30, 2009

I used the other updater to update my wii. It took a few tries but was worth it. Also got bannerbomb to work.
What IOS did they use to fix the The Conduit glitch. Does it come with 4.2U?

illinialex24 · Sep 30, 2009

I think its IOS57 although it might be 38. It comes with 4.2U.

comboking · Sep 30, 2009

Can I get it elsewhere? Can someone PM me a link to a guide that tells me how to make a WAD for the system menu or is it not important?

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