Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[3BitSaurus]

Nah, you know the community.
****'s not broken until it happens.
Until I don't get my Isaac mii costume and Isaac as a DLC in the same game. Ain't happening

I mean, I'd love to see it, but I think what we have is enough confirmation in that case.

I know the community, I just think in this case the community is wrong.

 

[skylanders fan]

A bit late, but real talk?
I'd be down for Goku at this point. Like, **** it. Nothing is real anymore anyway.

Tbh I think if anything sora coming with no Disney stuff makes me think we won’t get anything non video game related in smash at all

 

[ProfPeanut]

Would you say it was for good or ill that someone leaked that Disney Music thing way back then, only to be discovered once the date of the reveal was confirmed?

It certainly resulted in high Sora hopes in the days before the reveal, but I can't help but wonder if it was better or worse that so many people began actively hoping for him again, especially when that sort of hope fails more often than not.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

This picture I downloaded all the way in 2008 came true

 

[PeridotGX]

I just got a fun idea for the next game: Blissey as a Jigglypuff semi clone. It would have all of the moves but completely different stats. It's obviously way larger, it would be one of the heaviest characters in the game, one of the fastest fallers, and would only have one midair jump.We might have to replace Sing to make it not completely worthless in the air, but I think such a dramatically different take on a classic Smash character would be fun.

 

[chocolatejr9]

It's probably already been talked about given how many pages I've missed, but rest in peace Dragon Quest composer. You were notoriously stingy even by Square Enix standards (looks at DQ music in Smash), but you were a legend in the industry.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Like someone said, with Sugiyama gone, maybe getting Hero back next Smash, or even Ultimate 4K Edition with Everyone Is Back and more stuff and characters on top of that, won’t be as hard now

 

[Guynamednelson]

Like someone said, with Sugiyama gone, maybe getting Hero back next Smash, or even Ultimate 4K Edition with Everyone Is Back and more stuff and characters on top of that, won’t be as hard now

Even if Sugiyama's licensing issues might be gone, there's still the issue of whether or not they'd even be able to add as many unique newcomers as base Ultimate did. Ultimate may have made the impossible possible, but there's still a reason why they had to add several clones to its base roster.

 

[Technomage]

If Ultimate were to get a next-gen Deluxe edition, complete with about a dozen base game characters, about a dozen DLC characters, and all veterans returning, what fan-rules could/would be broken?

 

[drag0nscythe]

Like someone said, with Sugiyama gone, maybe getting Hero back next Smash, or even Ultimate 4K Edition with Everyone Is Back and more stuff and characters on top of that, won’t be as hard now

Now Nintendo has to deal with his estate. My experience is that the estate is always far worse then the original creator.

 

[Nekoo]

Now Nintendo has to deal with his estate. My experience is that the estate is always far worse then the original creator.

Conan Doyle estate intensifies.

 

[Dinoman96]

Hot take: I wouldn't really mind having less newcomers in the base game if it meant getting everyone back again.

 

[HYRULESHERO42]

How many less we talking?

 

[Dinoman96]

How many less we talking?

5-6 unique fighters is good to me. Just do what they did with Ultimate and make every character count.

Ring Fit Trainee, maybe Waluigi and Isaac for fan favorites, a cool new guest character, a new Pokemon, stuff like that.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Like someone said, with Sugiyama gone, maybe getting Hero back next Smash, or even Ultimate 4K Edition with Everyone Is Back and more stuff and characters on top of that, won’t be as hard now

The character has nothing to do with Sugiyama. Thats something on SEs plate. Now gettig the music again is another issue

 

[Rie Sonomura]

If Ultimate were to get a next-gen Deluxe edition, complete with about a dozen base game characters, about a dozen DLC characters, and all veterans returning, what fan-rules could/would be broken?

If the Miis from vanilla Ultimate’s DLC return in base, a few could make the jump to playable like Shantae

maybe one or two ATs from vanilla Ultimate are gone, because surprise! They’re playable characters now!

 

[Dinoman96]

Now gettig the music again is another issue

Well yeah, that is the issue we're talking about here. The music license issue with DQ is kinda what made Hero seem like a DLC character only kind of deal, unless they were willing to do something drastic like have the character be in the base game but you have to buy his stage/music seperately.

Which, now that I think about it, is kinda what they did with Cloud...

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

If the Miis from vanilla Ultimate’s DLC return in base, a few could make the jump to playable like Shantae

maybe one or two ATs from vanilla Ultimate are gone, because surprise! They’re playable characters now!

That's happened before, with K Rool and Inkling's Mii Costume in Smash 4 becoming playable characters in Ultimate.
Same with AT's, remember Little Mac, Isabelle and Dark Samus being AT's?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

That's happened before, with K Rool and Inkling's Mii Costume in Smash 4 becoming playable characters in Ultimate.
Same with AT's, remember Little Mac, Isabelle and Dark Samus being AT's?

That’s assuming new games in between. This is an expanded port situation which has never happened before so I’m not so sure this is guaranteed

also, what new music tracks would you want in a deluxe edition, even if they don’t come with a character?

aside from my obvious want of Xenoblade X and Octo Expansion music, the SwSh gym theme is a banger and I need it in smash

 

[Kokiden]

If we're talking future ports for Smash, or another Smash game, so long as Joker and Bayonetta come back that's all I need.

Bayo is basically Nintendo now so she should be fine, but Joker? Atlus are really big on collabs so maybe they'd pledge for him to come back? I sure hope so at least.

 

[Guynamednelson]

I wonder how many people who don't want Smash 6 to cut anyone also think there's too much Pokemon/FE? Because you should be perfectly fine with the removal of someone like Corrin or Incineroar.

 

[HYRULESHERO42]

5-6 unique fighters is good to me. Just do what they did with Ultimate and make every character count.

Ring Fit Trainee, maybe Waluigi and Isaac for fan favorites, a cool new guest character, a new Pokemon, stuff like that.

I would hope for more creativity than just “new Pokémon” “new fire emblem guy”

I wonder how many people who don't want Smash 6 to cut anyone also think there's too much Pokemon/FE? Because you should be perfectly fine with the removal of someone like Corrin or Incineroar.

Why does everyone want to get rid of Incineroar? He’s unique, cut pichu if anyone

 

[Dinoman96]

I would hope for more creativity than just “new Pokémon” “new fire emblem guy”

Buddy, I hate to tell you this, but no matter how many new fighters we get next game, we're always gonna be getting at least one new Pokemon and Fire Emblem rep lol

 

[CureParfait]

If Ultimate were to get a next-gen Deluxe edition, complete with about a dozen base game characters, about a dozen DLC characters, and all veterans returning, what fan-rules could/would be broken?

Assist Trophy and Pokeballs can't promote in the same game.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

RIP to Siguyama-san.
And morning, everyone.

But now I'm thinking, could we get Dragon Quest song remixes now?
If not for Ultimate, maybe for the next game, if Hero even returns?

 

[Guynamednelson]

Why does everyone want to get rid of Incineroar

The Pokemon Company just might not care about keeping him in if he never caught on as well as Greninja.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Anyway, why are we talking about getting characters back for the next game already, the game just ended

 

[Firox]

I would hope for more creativity than just “new Pokémon” “new fire emblem guy”

I was about to say, isn't it a little depressing that we just expect two slots per game to automatically be Pokemon and FE's flavor of the month?

 

[HYRULESHERO42]

Buddy, I hate to tell you this, but no matter how many new fighters we get next game, we're always gonna be getting at least one new Pokemon and Fire Emblem rep lol

oh I didn’t say you were wrong haha

 

[Powerman293]

I doubt the roster of an "Ultimate Deluxe" or whatever will get touched assuming Sakurai isn't involved. I could see minor gameplay tweaks/Quality of life like reduced buffer, displays for certain mechanics we didn't get in Ultimate and rollback implemented due to the power of the new hardware.

 

[Ivander]

I was about to say, isn't it a little depressing that we just expect two slots per game to automatically be Pokemon and FE's flavor of the month?

It's really not surprising when Pokemon and Fire Emblem get a new cast per game(not including remakes) whereas some of their other series keep a certain cast of characters for every game.

 

[Gengar84]

I was about to say, isn't it a little depressing that we just expect two slots per game to automatically be Pokemon and FE's flavor of the month?

I’m totally fine with getting a new Fire Emblem and Pokémon character every Smash. I really like both properties. I do wish we could deviate from getting almost exclusively lords and starters though. I feel like we miss out on so many great characters by limiting our options like that.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Just look at this magnificent roster. How can one even complain about it?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I wonder how many people who don't want Smash 6 to cut anyone also think there's too much Pokemon/FE? Because you should be perfectly fine with the removal of someone like Corrin or Incineroar.

One is not wanting more. The other is not wanting less. These are not contradictory at all like how thinking the final character could be Isaac but thinking Master Chief wouldn't happen isn't contradictory

 

[Firox]

I’m totally fine with getting a new Fire Emblem and Pokémon character every Smash. I really like both properties. I do wish we could deviate from getting almost exclusively lords and starters though. I feel like we miss out on so many great characters by limiting our options like that.

I mean, to your point, there are a lot of Pokemon I'd love to see in Smash like Scizor, Sceptile or Gengar. The problem is that there seems to be a precedent that only the most recent game iterations get any attention regardless of how bland they might be.

 

[Ivander]

Just look at this magnificent roster. How can one even complain about it?

Bottom text.

 

[2006ToyotaTacoma]

Just look at this magnificent roster. How can one even complain about it?

Well ackchyually it's lacking my personal MW's so from an objective, undebatable standpoint it's a 0/10 /s if it wasn't obvious lol

 

[Gengar84]

I mean, to your point, there are a lot of Pokemon I'd love to see in Smash like Scizor, Sceptile or Gengar. The problem is that there seems to be a precedent that only the most recent game iterations get any attention regardless of how bland they might be.

Yeah, I feel you there. It’s a little odd coming from someone with a Pokémon username like me but I think Cinderace was my least wanted character for Smash.

 

[SNEKeater]

Lmao, I have no Idea why they changed his name to Vlad either, trust me, it was weird coming in this website and seeing everyone talk about Isaac until I saw that it was Vlad's english name

Yeah he has different names in some countries.
For example, in Spain he's called Hans, not Isaac.

Similar case with Robin, I know he's called like that in USA or Germany, but in France, Spain or Italy his name is Daraen.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I refuse to believe Pepsiman wasn’t a Top 5 Ballot pick. Try and find me one person who hasn’t had a Pepsi product before. It’s THAT popular!

I actually cannot stomach the idea that folks wanted some guy in a red zip-up onesie (and also doesn’t know the purpose of a belt, smh) over this dude. Just LOOK AT HIM!