Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[JOJONumber691]

I mean... even if that was the case, there's still, what, 155 champions to choose from? That's a far cry from "most are out", like you said. Also doubt the style of figure matters, Sakurai's collection seemed pretty varied.

I don't think figure theory will give us any useful info. It's like Color theory in the sense that it's ultimately right, but tells us next to nothing about who the fighters will be.

Yeah, but those styles are also similar enough to the Fighters original art styles.

 

[spicynun]

BRUH, THEY CHANGED THE CSS.

Smash Ultimate Character Select Screen with Pyra/Mythra.

This roster is just unbelievable. pic.twitter.com/0LS2rhJC4U

— Stealth (@Stealth40k) March 4, 2021

WE'RE GETTING A SQUARE NOW AFTER VOL. 2 IS DONE FOR NON-STACKED FOLK.

Edit: I'm dumb, please pass along folks.

I remember when that guy tweeted that he thought MH was next before Sephiroth. Times have changed.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

What are the chance of an April Nintendo direct?

 

[SWSU]

What are the chance of an April Nintendo direct?

50%

Either it happens, or it doesnt.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Leaning towards June.

3 months we're gonna have to wait.

 

[Animegamingnerd]

What are the chance of an April Nintendo direct?

Very unlikely, chances are June is the absolute earliest for a direct.

 

[Cosmic77]

I'm pleasantly surprised that MH was the one that received the Mii Costumes, not Tales.

MH would've been my E3 2021 guess, but now I'm back to having no idea who it could be. Sega and SNK are the only third-party companies that haven't gotten content in this pass, and honestly, neither of them seem very likely to get a character (not that a lot of people were giving serious consideration to SNK).

 

[Geno Boost]

I guess capcom representation is dead on this pass
However it’s seems a Namco representation is still on the table as far I remember Lloyd is highly requested in japan

 

[Firox]

All of Lloyd's friends are dead. He's all alone now. Can he escape death?

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"They have taken the Bridge and the Second Hall. We have barred the gates, but cannot hold them for long. The ground shakes... Drums. Drums in the deep. We cannot get out. A Shadow moves in the dark... We cannot get out... They are coming."

-Geno as Steve, Sephiroth and Pythra approach, probably

 

[Peripuff]

So, with there being only 4 mii costumes, doesn't that mean the news stuff has 4 empty slots instead of 2?

What could they be for? Could they just be like some past empty slots that ended up unfilled?

I’m curious about this as well, were there empty slots that went unfilled before?

 

[SharkLord]

Y'know, I don't think people are actually buying heavily into Figure Theory. Just a little joke. Big games just get merchandise; There's nothing we can really determine from it.

...It is just a joke, right?

 

[Deleted member]

Y'know, I don't think people are actually buying heavily into Figure Theory. Just a little joke. Big games just get merchandise; There's nothing we can really determine from it.

...It is just a joke, right?

Speculation is never a joke (unfortunately)

 

[Powerman293]

I can't believe how much the Smash team avoids stepping on the toes of old Smash 4 Mii Costumes for some reason.

 

[Souless_shadow]

Y'know, I don't think people are actually buying heavily into Figure Theory. Just a little joke. Big games just get merchandise; There's nothing we can really determine from it.

...It is just a joke, right?

I really, truly hope so. But knowing this fandom anything is possible.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

One thing has been made especially clear because of this. Any upcoming Nintendo character will have something that ignores Smash's design philosophy. Min Min gets absurdly safe moves and Mythra can cross up shields with her side special despite a mechanic existing to prevent that

 

[Powerman293]

I really, truly hope so. But knowing this fandom anything is possible.

How much does that really narrow down the pool though? Every popular request in the fandom has some form of merchandise Sakurai could use as a reference. Even the Mech Figure Sakurai mentioned still hasn't come to fruition with any character. Or maybe I'm not paying attention.

 

[SpectreJordan]

So given the whole “Unreleased fighters have their figures locked in drawers”

Does that mean it’s a hint that the last two fighters have some kind of statue/action figure released?

Probably not since there’s a lot of Smash characters without figures including Banjo (a good one), Byleth & Min-Min. Much to my annoyance since I’m trying to get 6 inch scale figures of the entire roster.

Buuuuuut, let’s go 2/3 of these guys for the final characters. Or 3/3 with one being a surprise final bonus.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

So...

sweats over Five Year Plan.

 

[TraaP]

By the way, did anyone catch when Pyra and Mythra are releasing today?
Are they already out? A couple hours? Maybe at like 6 or something?

They’re scheduled to release in the UK on the 5th of March, so 12 hours at the latest.

 

[Garteam]

And why would that be?

Honestly, it just doesn't seem... Sakurai-esc.

Even when Smash consisted solely of Nintendo characters in 64 and Melee, Sakurai's been relatively conscious about not giving any franchise too much content. Obviously, this didn't mean giving everyone the same amount of characters, stages, etc., but it did mean doing things like passing over the more popular Wario for Mewtwo and Marth to add greater franchise to Melee's roster instead of making it "Mario and Friends".

Now that we're incorporating content from all over gaming's landscape, the logic behind not wanting to give too much love to any individual series extends to the companies that are being represented as well. Of the 7 companies represented in Smash thus far, none have more than three characters, most have at least two characters in Smash, most have 2-5 franchises with representation in Smash (Namco and SNK are the exceptions to these previous two patterns, as they both have one character meant to represent their entire company), and no company has gotten more than one unique newcomer in a wave of characters.

These patterns suggest that Sakurai is trying to balance the representation each company receives so Smash is a true celebration of gaming rather than "Nintendo vs. Capcom plus friends" or "Nintendo vs. Square and some other guys are here".

 

[cothero]

The good thing is, with the MH costumes coming back with Pyra/Mythra, the orchestra leak is finally debunked.

 

[SharkLord]

In the same day, we lost Monster Hunter, most likely the possibility of FP3, and presumably all of Capcom

Speculation's gonna be shaken up a lot going forward

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Miis right now be like:

 

[JOJONumber691]

So...

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sweats over Five Year Plan.

That confirms the plan, but probably deconfirms Crash in Smash for one reason. Nintendo would be EXTREMELY MAD if Crash in Smash was on the plan. Because that would confirm their E3 Character, and it's pretty obvious Nintendo don't want that so this probably kills Crash lol.

 

[Inawordyes]

I honestly wasn’t expecting only 4 costumes, for all 4 to be Capcom characters, and to not only get back the 2 missing MH costumes, but to get an entirely new one as well. And this on top of Lloyd skipping out again even though he absolutely could have returned here in Arthur’s place or in addition.

I don’t think it necessarily increases Lloyd’s chances (though Concert Leak is probably dead now? so it’s anyone’s guess who the last character is), but the fact that of everyone, Lloyd is the last one standing and didn’t come back with a two-swords-in-one-fighter (technically) character while wielding two swords.

Crash is still super likely though

 

[Cutie Gwen]

That confirms the plan, but probably deconfirms Crash in Smash for one reason. Nintendo would be EXTREMELY MAD if Crash in Smash was on the plan. Because that would confirm their E3 Character, and it's pretty obvious Nintendo don't want that so this probably kills Crash lol.

"Sir, a twitter account made a joke that someone can link to Smash!"
Sakurai: "WHAT! THAT'S IT! rips up contract I HAVE HAD IT deletes everything that took god knows how many manhours and money This'll show them!"

 

[Schnee117]

If distribution of content among third parties really mattered then Namco would have far more than the pittance they have now.
Unfortunately that's not the case.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

That confirms the plan, but probably deconfirms Crash in Smash for one reason. Nintendo would be EXTREMELY MAD if Crash in Smash was on the plan. Because that would confirm their E3 Character, and it's pretty obvious Nintendo don't want that so this probably kills Crash lol.

Dude calm down. Crash will be confirmed when he shows up as Fighter #10. Then you can scream in agony.

 

[cashregister9]

That confirms the plan, but probably deconfirms Crash in Smash for one reason. Nintendo would be EXTREMELY MAD if Crash in Smash was on the plan. Because that would confirm their E3 Character, and it's pretty obvious Nintendo don't want that so this probably kills Crash lol.

Or y'know smash just wasn't on the five year document and that 4chan post was fake

 

[SharkLord]

I have three hypothetical "SharkLord Win" scenarios going on regarding Lloyd's Mii costume.

1. Lloyd gets promoted
2. Lloyd Mii with Velvet as the fighter
3. Lloyd Mii with fellow action-RPG character Adol as the fighter (Admittedly, this one's less solid)

So yeah. I'm flexible with these outcomes.

 

[SNEKeater]

I'm pleasantly surprised that MH was the one that received the Mii Costumes, not Tales.

MH would've been my E3 2021 guess, but now I'm back to having no idea who it could be. Sega and SNK are the only third-party companies that haven't gotten content in this pass, and honestly, neither of them seem very likely to get a character (not that a lot of people were giving serious consideration to SNK).

Yeah, I doubt another SNK character. But I still think SEGA could manage to get a second character. But who knows. Right now I'm feeling 2 new third party companies, or maybe just one and another first party pick.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Yeah, I doubt another SNK character. But I still think SEGA could manage to get a second character. But who knows. Right now I'm feeling 2 new third party companies, or maybe just one and another first party pick.

Maybe Dr. Eggman?

 

[JOJONumber691]

"Sir, a twitter account made a joke that someone can link to Smash!"
Sakurai: "WHAT! THAT'S IT! rips up contract I HAVE HAD IT deletes everything that took god knows how many manhours and money This'll show them!"

I doubt they'd tell a Twitter Intern about a Smash Reveal, so I'm thinking if the plan is real, which it probably is, that Crash in Smash wasn't actually on it, but just made up.

 

[Cosmic77]

Regarding Lloyd, I don't think his absence means anything. He might be the only Mii Costume left, but you also have to remember that Heihachi and Gil have come back by now. Unless they make bundle of costumes consisting of four or five Tales characters, you'd think they'd have saved the other Namco costumes for Lloyd.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Regarding Lloyd, I don't think his absence means anything. He might be the only Mii Costume left, but you also have to remember that Heihachi and Gil have come back by now. Unless they make bundle of costumes consisting of four or five Tales characters, you'd think they'd save the other Namco costumes for Lloyd.

We got Pythra despite the Splatoon costumes coming with Min Min.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I have three hypothetical "SharkLord Win" scenarios going on regarding Lloyd's Mii costume.

1. Lloyd gets promoted
2. Lloyd Mii with Velvet as the fighter
3. Lloyd Mii with fellow action-RPG character Adol as the fighter (Admittedly, this one's less solid)

So yeah. I'm flexible with these outcomes.

Scenario 4: Chester's the Ys rep and brings a Lloyd costume

I doubt they'd tell a Twitter Intern about a Smash Reveal, so I'm thinking if the plan is real, which it probably is, that Crash in Smash wasn't actually on it, but just made up.

And they'd tell an intern all the details about everything and not on a need to know basis?

 

[Sysreq]

I sincerely hope "figure theory" dies by the end of today because it's dumb and pointless. Also people are quick to jump on Crash, Lloyd, and Hayabusa train, but I still wouldn't count out a Pokemon.

 

[cothero]

Also, no more Deluxe Mii costumes since Steve/Bomberman. I guess all of them were released already.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

I should really look at how Mii Costume waves are built up, seems like the best way to solve some of the mysteries regarding the final two characters

 

[JOJONumber691]

Scenario 4: Chester's the Ys rep and brings a Lloyd costume

And they'd tell an intern all the details about everything and not on a need to know basis?

They would probably only be informed of the Crash on the Run stuff needed for their job, not the Five Year Plan, especially if Smash is actually acknowledged on it, which I doubt considering the account acknowledged the Plan.