Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[CureParfait]

So hey, in regards to the completely-hypothetical-and-probably-not-gonna-happen Echo Pass...

How do people think that it would actually be revealed, given the lower complexity of development? String it all out one at a time (maybe each one drops alongside a balance patch and amiibo)? Two packs of two? Pump it and dump it at once? They wouldn't need to come with Sakurai Presents presentations, sadly.

I think one or two would drop during an update if that type of pass occurs.

 

[SpecterFlower]

OG Byleth being Monster Hunter is unconfirmed. Imran himself more or less said "I don't know if this info is true or not".

then Mh still has extra work done for nothing so it's a strong possibility.

 

[Hinata]

I've long had this theory that as long as we know who the character is before their "Sakurai Presents" presentation, they'll be released the day of/the day after their presentation.

Known beforehand: Joker, Hero, Banjo, Terry, Sephiroth
Revealed in the presentation itself: Byleth, Min Min, Steve (technically his reveal and his "Sakurai Presents" were two different things but the reveal was basically a Sakurai Presents on its own and the actual presentation was just moved ahead a bit to coincide with MineCon)

 

[Shroob]

I've long had this theory that as long as we know who the character is before their "Sakurai Presents" presentation, they'll be released the day of/the day after their presentation.

Known beforehand: Joker, Hero, Banjo, Terry, Sephiroth
Revealed in the presentation itself: Byleth, Min Min, Steve (technically his reveal and his "Sakurai Presents" were two different things but the reveal was basically a Sakurai Presents on its own and the actual presentation was just moved ahead a bit to coincide with MineCon)

That's also been my theory for the longest while lol.

 

[Paraster]

Spirits, as in multiple ones?

I can't imaging "Red Crewmate", "Blue Crewmate", "Yellow Crewmate", and "Green Crewmate" would be an interesting spirit event.

Maybe multiple spirits wouldn't work, but I've seen a REALLY interesting concept for a single Among Us spirit battle. (And the Warframe spirit means there's precedence for a single new spirit being added in an event.)

If I'm allowed to submit spirit suggestions while voting is going on, I have a few I've made on my own time I'll share over time.

Spoiler: Impostors & Crewmates

Name: Impostors & Crewmates
Fighter: Gold x2 x6

Series: Among Us
Spirit: Support
Rank: Ace ★★★
Conditions: The enemy will fight if provoked (new condition).

Stage: The Great Cave Offensive
Stage Type: Normal
Rules: Defeat the main fighters to win, Timed Stamina Battle (All players have 75 HP, 3:00).
Hazards: On
Music: Gamer

Effect: Improved Escape

Spirit fight explanation: This spirit battle best attempts to recreate a game of Among Us where you must determine which of the Crewmates are actually Impostors. In this case, the two Impostors will be represented by the two Dark Samus puppet fighters. At the start of the battle, all of the fighters will be indistinguishable by their Gold effect so you won't be able to differentiate the fighters by their colours but rather by their animations and appearance. The puppet fighters will avoid trying to fight you but if they are attacked, their AI will switch and they will focus on attacking you instead. Make sure you don't hurt any of the Samus fighters.

 

[PLANTMAN]

This week's event is a Pokemon tournament, so no new spirits.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Not sure if anyone expected new spirits, given that we just got Bravely Default 2 ones and a new character's coming soon, but I figured it was worth mentioning.

A tournament with Pokemon fighters, stages, and items to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the "Pokemon" series.

heh

Remember when there were people that thought cinderace was gonna get revealed in the feb direct all because “this is how smash will celebrate Pokémon’s 25th anniversary” since it was like one week before the aniversery? Only for from a game that Nintendo prob didn’t care about anymore these day to get in instead?

good times.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

So hey, in regards to the completely-hypothetical-and-probably-not-gonna-happen Echo Pass...

How do people think that it would actually be revealed, given the lower complexity of development? String it all out one at a time (maybe each one drops alongside a balance patch and amiibo)? Two packs of two? Pump it and dump it at once? They wouldn't need to come with Sakurai Presents presentations, sadly.

i got an idea actually

if there's more passes after this, maybe have one pass have all four of its characters bundled with an echo

an idea.

• Arle Nadja (Tee ε)
• KOS-MOS (T-elos ε)
• Crash Bandicoot (Coco Bandicoot ε)
• Reimu Hakurei (Marisa Kirisame ε)

i think we'd see four echoes max if dlc continued tbh, as per the remaining 16-17 EXE slots (depending on if Pythra occupy one exe slot or two. see epicmartin7's posts a while back)

 

[Shroob]

New game.


How long until gets added.


Place yet bets. Do I hear one week, one week, one week? Oh two weeks, I got a two weeks, two weeks, two weeks, THREE! SOLD to the fine person suggesting three weeks!

 

[N3ON]

heh

Remember when there were people that thought cinderace was gonna get revealed in the feb direct all because “this is how smash will celebrate Pokémon’s 25th anniversary” since it was like one week before the aniversery? Only for from a game that Nintendo prob didn’t care about anymore these day to get in instead?

good times.

The learning curve regarding anniversaries is minimal.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

New game.


How long until gets added.


Place yet bets. Do I hear one week, one week, one week? Oh two weeks, I got a two weeks, two weeks, two weeks, THREE! SOLD to the fine person suggesting three weeks!

bro im STILL waiting for the Shirtless Sephiroth and School Uniform Joker alts to be premium post bgs...

....don't look at me like that!

 

[SharkLord]

Place your bets:

"Pyra and Mythra... OUT NOW!" or not?

Now

As in, right now

ONLY right now

Better boot up your Switches quick

 

[chocolatejr9]

bro im STILL waiting for the Shirtless Sephiroth and School Uniform Joker alts to be premium post bgs...

....don't look at me like that!

looking intensifies

Wait, that came out wrong...

 

[Guynamednelson]

Now

As in, right now

ONLY right now

Better boot up your Switches quick

Oh **** I can't believe they made Goku a Mii costume.

 

[Shroob]

Now

As in, right now

ONLY right now

Better boot up your Switches quick

PST mates suffer even harder.

 

[3BitSaurus]

bro im STILL waiting for the Shirtless Sephiroth and School Uniform Joker alts to be premium post bgs...

....don't look at me like that!

From using the bonk stick meme on everyone to needing to have it used on you... oh, how the turntables, Rie.

 

[SharkLord]

• Reimu Hakurei (Marisa Kirisame ε)

Marisa as a Reimu Echo gives off the same vibes as Vergil as a Dante Echo. It's pretty much trying to force a a moveset of one character over another character who can't work with it, just because they're from the same series. If anything the Reimu Echo would be Sanae, and even then they'd still be unfitting; Their shot types are different, Reimu doesn't actively make use of her summoning ability like Sanae, and Sanae doesn't have a proper equivalent to Reimu's Yin-Yang Orbs, and that's just surface level.

In short, Touhou powersets are just too distinct to give Reimu an Echo Fighter.

 

[Shroob]

Marisa as a Reimu Echo gives off the same vibes as Vergil as a Dante Echo. It's pretty much trying to force a a moveset of one character over another character who can't work with it, just because they're from the same series. If anything the Reimu Echo would be Sanae, and even then they'd still be unfitting; Their shot types are different, Reimu doesn't actively make use of her summoning ability like Sanae, and Sanae doesn't have a proper equivalent to Reimu's Yin-Yang Orbs, and that's just surface level.

In short, Touhou powersets are just too distinct to give Reimu an Echo Fighter.

To anyone who doesn't know Touhou well enough.


Reimu: Stick, paper talismans, ying-yang balls

Marisa: ****ING LAZOR rock

 

[SpecterFlower]

New game.


How long until gets added.


Place yet bets. Do I hear one week, one week, one week? Oh two weeks, I got a two weeks, two weeks, two weeks, THREE! SOLD to the fine person suggesting three weeks!

what if you always start as pyra and ultmythra won't exist? im paranoid i need ult mythra because im going to play as her 63 percent of the time.

 

[Shroob]

what if you always start as pyra and ultmythra won't exist? im paranoid i need ult mythra because im going to play as her 63 percent of the time.

I mean, pretty sure they'll give her a stock icon.

 

[Dyamanttine]

Well, i think Pyra is coming the same day as the presentation, my gut is telling me so

 

[Guynamednelson]

I mean, pretty sure they'll give her a stock icon.

"they" being the Smash devs or the Smashboards staff? Because even if the HUD always displays Pyra's head they'll still need to draw a Mythra icon for G&W's throws.

The Smashboards staff on the other hand...

 

[Michael the Spikester]

https://twitter.com/SmashBrosJP/status/1366916231027187716

Got this from the Pyra & Mythra thread. The person who posted this says it's very likely now they'll release on the same day.

Wonder if anyone can translate this...

 

[Shroob]

"they" being the Smash devs or the Smashboards staff? Because even if the HUD always displays Pyra's head they'll still need to draw a Mythra icon for G&W's throws.

The Smashboards staff on the other hand...

I think it's obvious I was implying the Smash team since the post I was responding to was considering an outcome where Mythra didn't get a unique stock icon.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Also 36 more hours to go.

 

[Shroob]

https://twitter.com/SmashBrosJP/status/1366916231027187716

Got this from the Pyra & Mythra thread. The person who posted this says it's very likely now they'll release on the same day.

Wonder if anyone can translate this...

You really ought to slow your roll and like, do a little bit of research.

 

[SharkLord]

To anyone who doesn't know Touhou well enough.


Reimu: Stick, paper talismans, ying-yang balls

Marisa: ****ING LAZOR rock

Marisa also has a broomstick that she uses to fly around on. That, and various assorted junk she takes from the forest and makes into potions.

 

[Ivander]

Also 36 more hours to go.

Once again, waiting feels like forever, even when it's not so far away.

 

[7NATOR]

So this also means we gonna get balance changes as well right

It might be Small, but at least it's something

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

So this also means we gonna get balance changes as well right

It might be Small, but at least it's something

Basically, if they tell you to save your replays, then it means they're changing characters outright. Due to the way replays are saved, any tiny alterations changes how they display. Instead of simply making a video, it actually reenacts all the button/controls you used. Or the computer used, etc.

 

[PSIGuy]

So this also means we gonna get balance changes as well right

Fixed multi-hit attacks*
*Except Greninja, who has been nerfed

 

[Rie Sonomura]

So... no POTD yet?

 

[Mushroomguy12]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Nintendo Switch released today in 2017. 4th anniversary !! That means that "The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild" is also on sale. It is regrettable that I had to rush to clear the development version because of the Zelda system study in Smash Bros. SP. #Smash Bros SP

 

[Shroob]

So we (probably) have Pyra/Mythra confirmed to be dropping Thursday, or extremely close to that.

God, still debating if I want to stay up or just watch it when I wake up...... the latter is super ****ing lame.

 

[Deleted member]

This week's event is a Pokemon tournament, so no new spirits.

[twitter post]

Not sure if anyone expected new spirits, given that we just got Bravely Default 2 ones and a new character's coming soon, but I figured it was worth mentioning.

Friendly Reminder that Smash has yet to host a Fire Emblem Themed Tourney


Though in all seriousness, this does make another Pokemon feel very questionable given this is the 2nd Poke themed Tourney to happen in celebration of something big within the series, but it's also possible that it could mean another Pokemon fighter could just come with a different themed tourney behind it like Cinderace with a fire themed tourney since that hasn't happened yet. It always feels like another Pokemon will come while everything doesn't appear to be that way from the SwSh spirits that were added to the first Poke themed tournament to the latest 2 1st Party characters not being a Pokemon to now this.

 

[cashregister9]

So we (probably) have Pyra/Mythra confirmed to be dropping Thursday, or extremely close to that.

God, still debating if I want to stay up or just watch it when I wake up...... the latter is super ****ing lame.

Perform the chad move of going to bed slightly early and then setting 8 separate alarms that are all before the video and praying to god one of them works.

 

[Icedragonadam]

The youngest post that has ever lived.

 

[Shroob]

Looking into XB2

Wait, they ****ing nerfed the ONE meme I knew about this game?



The **** Nintendo?

 

[Technomage]

New game.


How long until gets added.


Place yet bets. Do I hear one week, one week, one week? Oh two weeks, I got a two weeks, two weeks, two weeks, THREE! SOLD to the fine person suggesting three weeks!

I'd say no more than a few days, due to that warning to back up our replays.

 

[Shroob]

I'd say no more than a few days, due to that warning to back up our replays.

Nono, the emote here on the site.

 

[Technomage]

Nono, the emote here on the site.

I don't understand...