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I'm guessing that they didn't want to tinker with the game too much because the holiday is closing in and they might not have been able to release a hotfix if something went wrong and they accidentally created a bad glitch.
The balance team typically looks at offline tournaments judging by the patches and considering Japan's only recently gone back offline while nobody else has... Yeah.
There is a difference between buying skins for the only customizable characters in the game or completely updating old/creating new stages and featuring them by themselves and trying to get people to buy a character made from reusing assets from a character that is already in the game and that at best ends up like Ken and at worst ends up like Daisy.
So, just another day in the Smash fandom.
I almost made this joke, so I really appreciate this comment.
What do you mean she’d be another shoto? She plays NOTHING like them. If you mean she’s have inputs then just say that instead of calling her a playstyle that is the furthest thing from her
And again, people would buy it. People will spend hundreds for customization and lootboxes in games, you think people wouldn't spend 5 bucks for a clone? Hell, you admit it yourself they would.
Hey did you know Morrigan's appeared in We Love Golf, a game rated 3+ for PEGI and E10 for the ESRB without needing any changes and how CERO's issue is panty shots which doesn't apply to Morrigan at all?
They'd still have to cover up her Booba though.
I mean, if it's going to help, she did appear in an E-rated game, albeit in a deformed art style (Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo):
I mean, the difference with Bayo is you really can't see anything due to the massive gem thing.
I see two changes.
That's the first image Google gives you but that's a bad angle. Go to Google Images and see the 7th image, I'd post it myself but I'm unable to and what do you know, she still has boobs. Covering up her cleavage a bit is as much work, if not less than they've done for Palutena, Corrin and Bayo.
Palutena and Corrin never had boob issue, it was always too much leg for them. Corrin's legs got censored by adding more clothing, same with Palu, and Palu's Smash model is pretty 1:1 with her KI:U art. I guess if you like, went super creeper mode on Palu's art you may see a really, REALLY small cleavage line, but I don't.
I just don't see how the hell it's such a major deal that a slight change is absolutely out of the question when Capcom themselves have plenty of times, another example being the children's cartoon Darkstalkers. It honestly isn't an issue at all
I feel like at the end of the day the simple question is if Sakurai would do it or not.
Mai's in an outfit meant to allow free movement which emphasizes her jiggling alongside the panty issue Sakurai's gone on ranting about in the past. Again, Morrigan's outfit is significantly tamer. This just screams "I am a Good Christian Boy who is very afraid". You can change the outfit while keeping the identity, it's happened before and Sakurai's willing to change up stuff like Palutena's model and Bayo's diamond patterened leg holes no longer exposing as much skin.
Gwen, please, if you looked at my browser history, you'd see I'm anything but lol.
You already said this but Mai's role would have been a background cameo. I'm not a game developer, but having to make a model and change it's design every time you check in with CERO until they approve it sounds like it's not worth the effort for that. And again, we've had it for Bayo, who has an open boob window which her outfit draws attention to, I don't see Morrigan happening, but not because of this completely made up argument that a man who's willing to change a playable character's design when needed having a character who's already had multiple kid friendly versions of her outfit with barely any changes and going "nope, wouldn't fit the character, get out." The issue would clearly be Darkstalkers being a low ass priority compared to literally anything else.
I mean, you keep bringing up Bayo but like, there's quite a big difference in Bayo's and Morrighan's lol.
While I do agree to a large extent that Nintendo gives no ****s, I kinda believe there's a better example to be made than #SaveSmash. Something like the opposition to fan projects while providing very little recourse themselves might be a better example. To go in depth:
Kinda think they'd not want Midnight Bliss because then they'd have to make an official Bowsette.
I mean, the issue with this is you can pretty much see how this'll go down.While I do agree to a large extent that Nintendo gives no ****s, I kinda believe there's a better example to be made than #SaveSmash. Something like the opposition to fan projects while providing very little recourse themselves might be a better example. To go in depth:
I'm saying that because on the surface SaveSmash's not affecting Nintendo much at all. But the issue for Nintendo (even as it is a relatively small issue) is that them shutting down tournaments in situations when they can't enforce their own terms - even their own tournaments...
... it give people like Ludwig Ahgren plenty of room to go "I'mma make my own charity tournaments. With Blackjack and hookers!". Also, without Nintendo ads. It's a problem for Nintendo's marketing and messaging, especially when the competitive community at large has begun to turn to Patreon and charity drives (this also happened with the Squid House, the Splatoon replacement tournament). If Nintendo C&D's such a charity tournament, well, they'll get even more bad PR at least and risk having that story picked up by more outlets.
And Ludwig raised $260K+ throughout his Melee tournament - with all of that going to charity. It was "only" a $25K prize pool. That tournament attracted a 50K viewership number - those 50K people would've ordinarily likely seen the Big House (The tournament that got C&D'd initially, Nintendo-sponsored) and seen those Nintendo ads. But nope. Neither Dexit nor many other of the controversies have such a "luxury", even if it's small.
Nintendo wants to lean into the competitive scene because it's, well, free marketing. Nintendo also will never leave games like Melee alone (despite what prominent Melee players like Leffen and Armada want). That's been the case with how they've approached competitive scenes. But I'd argue that the real and percieved mistreatment from Nintendo's end, as well as how people like Ludwig have responded, are undermining Nintendo's marketing; and there's a chance that the uproar will force Nintendo to the negotiating table with a group that has become outright hostile towards Nintendo and skeptical of Nintendo's intentions with anything. Time will tell if this happens (there's a chance this does not and a real split endures, granted).
It's not just something that affects Smash's competitive scene either - the Splatoon competitive scene set up the Squid House when Nintendo cancelled the NA Online Open' livestream ($27K+ raised IIRC), and the ARMS scene is largely not happy about Nintendo's treatment either.
Kinda think they'd not want Midnight Bliss because then they'd have to make an official Bowsette.
Nah, but as far as Darkstalkers is concerned, I'm not picky. Perfectly fine with Morrigan, Demitri or Jedah, hell even the lower profile characters like B.B. Hood and Jon Talbain would be welcome surprises.
The Melee players are not looking to win the legal argument - overall the streaming rights' issue appears to be complex, although there's a consensus that the IP rights are overwhelmingly on Nintendo's side - but Nintendo lawyering up against charity tournaments would be a PR nightmare for Nintendo. Akin to when Nintendo attempted to shut down the EVO 2013 Melee tournament - the fundraising that secured the slot there went to a breast cancer charity, and that was one reason Nintendo reversed course then.
That emblem doesn't just cover it up but also emphasizes her boob window as it draws attention to it. That's fashion 101 lmao
After looking through several of her designs on crossover stuff and how they're handling her cleavage the only game that actually cover up her cleavage is in Zombie Cafe.
I know it won't happen, but I have this tiny hope that there will be a Christmas drop of a few echoes. Octoling, Impa, and Dixie are at the top of the list for me. But I might as well add in that I think Boo could be an echo of 'Puff, or Baby Mario and Baby Luigi of the IC's.
He probably mean that she has a hadouken and shoryuken like move.
Honestly, the only prediction of mine that changed is that I'm now thinking Lloyd is the frontrunner for FP9. The fact that he's the final Namco costume remaining after 3 different characters who hail from sword and sorcery JRPGs makes me
more than a little bit.I hope we see Chun-Li, but if it came down to it I would prefer to see a Soul Calibur rep first like Yoshimitsu or Nightmare. Yoshimitsu could rep both Tekken and Soul Calibur so he would be perfect for representing both series.
