Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Deleted member]

Had a feeling, I can’t count syllables well due to my focus on other languages. I just assumed I miscounted.

The way I learned to count syllables was to put my hand beneath my jaw. When you say a word, each time your jaw hits your hand is 1 syllable.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Anakin Skywalker?
Well OK.

Uh oh....

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Actually, God-Slayer Bowser was just a fan nickname. I think it was Fury Bowser everywhere.

That's somehow more disappointing. It does at least make sense though.

 

[Deleted member]

I think it was translated as 'God Slayer Bowser' for Japanese, but overseas, we get the babied version.

 

[SpectreJordan]

I don’t see why Nintendo would choose an Apex character over Fortnite. Fortnite is waaaay more popular. I don’t think it’d be a price issue either. EA is EA & would want a lot of money. Epic might even lower the price since they’re currently going crossover crazy & would see Smash as another way to continue that.

 

[SharkLord]

I think it was translated as 'God Slayer Bowser' for Japanese, but overseas, we get the babied version.

According to the wiki, it's still Fury Bowser in Japanese. It's in katakana (Foreign words with Japanese letters), so they can't mistranslate it into something like God-Slayer Bowser.

 

[Pillow]

I don’t see why Nintendo would choose an Apex character over Fortnite. Fortnite is waaaay more popular. I don’t think it’d be a price issue either. EA is EA & would want a lot of money. Epic might even lower the price since they’re currently going crossover crazy & would see Smash as another way to continue that.

Yeah and APEX character is just straight up not coming. People said Steve came in to represent the newer generation of gamers / children, but Minecraft is like 10 years old, its impact and legacy is already well established. Even Fortnite has a far stronger legacy than APEX. If we're getting another zoomer character, then it'll be Jonesy.

Then again, Terry made it into the game before someone from Tekken, so we do have precedent for a less prominent series making it into Smash before another in the same genre.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Actually, God-Slayer Bowser was just a fan nickname. I think it was Fury Bowser everywhere.

I will never forgive Matt McMuscles for hyping us up with a fake name.

 

[Munchi]

I think it was translated as 'God Slayer Bowser' for Japanese, but overseas, we get the babied version.

Not really

Following up on this, it has been confirmed in new updates to Nintendo's English and Japanese Super Mario 3D World websites that the new form of Bowser is called "Fury Bowser" in both languages and the new form of Cat Mario is called "Giga Cat Mario" in both languages. https://t.co/dNij30t4Pj

— Source Gaming (@AllSourceGaming) January 14, 2021

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I think it was translated as 'God Slayer Bowser' for Japanese, but overseas, we get the babied version.

That isnt actually the name at all. Matt McMuscles joked about nit and everyone took is seroiusly

 

[Pillow]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

 

[Perkilator]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential?

Sora, easily.

 

[Froggy]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

Doom Guy. Granted I'm not unfamiliar with the series as I've been playing a lot lately. Same goes for Ori

 

[DarthEnderX]

which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential

Kunio.

His brawler moveset seems tailor-made for Smash. He has such a massive list of moves in Rival Showdown I think he has the entire Smash moveset covered already.

It also happens to be an extremely fun, over-the-top, fighting moveset.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

Axel Sto-

I-I mean Sgt. Cortez.

Time to Split.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

Tbh, Shantae.

 

[Guynamednelson]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

Saki. Screw the N64 controller, but don't screw that music and moveset potential.

 

[Firox]

Not really

Following up on this, it has been confirmed in new updates to Nintendo's English and Japanese Super Mario 3D World websites that the new form of Bowser is called "Fury Bowser" in both languages and the new form of Cat Mario is called "Giga Cat Mario" in both languages. https://t.co/dNij30t4Pj

— Source Gaming (@AllSourceGaming) January 14, 2021

Nope. In my own head-canon, they will always be God-Slayer Bowser™ and Super Saiyan Mario™

 

[Inue Houji]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

Elma from Xenoblade Chronicles X.
She just looks cool, and also has a mech.

 

[Deleted member]

That isnt actually the name at all. Matt McMuscles joked about nit and everyone took is seroiusly

Oh well my bad then. I wish it were true; such an awesome name. Guess it is a little to epic for the Mario series.

 

[SWSU]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

1. A Sim (from The Sims Obvs) could have a Hilarious Moveset for a Joke Character, and I'd love to see what the Team could come up with for them.

2. Shantae.

 

[JCKirbs]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

Probably someone like Sora.
Quick movements, elemental/magical attacks, and multi-slashes would be pretty fun to toy around with.

Also, Amaterasu would probably be pretty fun to play with as well, even more than Duck Hunt I'd imagine; especially if her attacks would be drawn out before or during their executions.

 

[SNEKeater]

Uh oh....

Oh god... it took me an instant to realize those Young Links were the CPUs, then it made me chuckle like a madman lmao

 

[Pillow]

Kunio.

His brawler moveset seems tailor-made for Smash. He has such a massive list of moves in Rival Showdown I think he has the entire Smash moveset covered already.

It also happens to be an extremely fun, over-the-top, fighting moveset.

Axel Sto-

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I-I mean Sgt. Cortez.

Time to Split.

I have to say I'm very surprised you two are unfamiliar with these characters since you stan them so hard

Tbh, Shantae.

Same

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

Piggybacking off my own question, do you guys have any opposite characters where you can't imagine yourself enjoying playing them but just really like their visual design or just respect the character itself.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Oh god... it took me an instant to realize those Young Links were the CPUs, then it made me chuckle like a madman lmao

They're "Younglinks".

 

[SharkLord]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

Sora. From what I've seen, he'd have absurd combo potential, especially if they go really in-depth with the mechanics. Lloyd's a similar case, essentially being Terry with swords; In other words, a combination of what my mains tend to be.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

I haven't really played Klonoa but seeing some of their gameplay has me intrigued to see what they could do in Smash.

 

[SharkLord]

I haven't really played Klonoa but seeing some of their gameplay has me intrigued to see what they could do in Smash.

Klonoa would be interesting because his Wind Ring would make him a lightweight grappler, which are two attributes that don't usually mix. Most grappler characters are big heavyweights, and we don't even have many of them in Smash either, so it'd be especially interesting to apply the throws to what's essentially a junior Sonic character. Heck, we could even have him grab you in the air and carry you around like Donkey Kong.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

Ammy and Sora

 

[Evil Trapezium]

I have to say I'm very surprised you two are unfamiliar with these characters since you stan them so hard

Ooops I misread that. Sol Badguy then.

 

[SKX31]

I don't think it's the focus on Special Moves so much as the polarizing nature of them. Piranha Plant in particular has the issue of pretty meh normals, but there are other characters like Simon who's normals are a contributor to matchup difficulties (Forward Tilt gives characters like Fox problems, the heck is Ganondorf gonna do about it?).

Though to be fair, having a kit that doesn't quite mesh together is one of the fastest ways to make a "can beat gimmick = win & can't beat gimmick = no win" checklist, and Piranha Plant fits there.

Absolutely, I just worded my thoughts pretty poorly there. I don't blame Sakurai and co there - after all, it's difficult to design normals when a character's legs is practically a pipe / pot.

A possible way to give it more interesting normals (outside of balancing its existing toolkit) might be to incorporate poison, the spiked ball or something else into a couple of its normals - Back Air involves neither but is an interesting normal attack. It's just that it has severe issues of its own: like having so much endlag one could mow an entire lawn infested with weeds before Plant can do anything else . Regardless, yeah, I'd say please buff Plant's normals and give them more use. Even if it means toning down its specials.

That could also serve as a possible template for any other plant-based newcomers (say any plant Pokemon or Plants vs. Zombies just to name two examples). I mean, if doesn't suffer internal combustion from spitting fire, feel free to go nuts.

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According to the wiki, it's still Fury Bowser in Japanese. It's in katakana (Foreign words with Japanese letters), so they can't mistranslate it into something like God-Slayer Bowser.

Best name for this transformation, and I'm not going to chance my mind. Ever.

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

First party, Style Savvy.

Third party, Chell, just because Portals would change a ton by itself.

 

[Pillow]

Klonoa would be interesting because his Wind Ring would make him a lightweight grappler, which are two attributes that don't usually mix. Most grappler characters are big heavyweights, and we don't even have many of them in Smash either, so it'd be especially interesting to apply the throws to what's essentially a junior Sonic character. Heck, we could even have him grab you in the air and carry you around like Donkey Kong.

Within the context of Smash, it could be argued that Mewtwo can be considered a lightweight grappler in the sense that he has extremely powerful kill throws and a really awful disadvantage state. But yeah that concept sounds pretty nice, I honestly know nothing about Klonoa.

 

[SharkLord]

Within the context of Smash, it could be argued that Mewtwo can be considered a lightweight grappler in the sense that he has extremely powerful kill throws and a really awful disadvantage state. But yeah that concept sounds pretty nice, I honestly know nothing about Klonoa.

Mainly I'm counting grapplers as characters that are focused on grabs, like Donkey Kong's cargo throws and Incineroar's buffs. Mewtwo struck me as a more general "tricky" character, though I'm not that well-versed with fighting game archetypes.

 

[Pillow]

Mainly I'm counting grapplers as characters that are focused on grabs, like Donkey Kong's cargo throws and Incineroar's buffs. Mewtwo struck me as a more general "tricky" character, though I'm not that well-versed with fighting game archetypes.

It's kind of hard to evaluate grappler as an archetype for Smash, just because of how differently Smash operates from traditional fighting games. Grapplers usually refers to characters that struggle to approach, but are monsters if they manage to close in, with the usual matchup triangle being grappler > rushdown > zoner > grappler.

DK, Ganon and Incineroar definitely have the feel of Grapplers, but If we're gonna call grab-centric characters that translate grabs into damaging combos, then honestly characters like the Mario Brothers would fit into this category the best.

 

[Firox]

Klonoa would be interesting because his Wind Ring would make him a lightweight grappler, which are two attributes that don't usually mix. Most grappler characters are big heavyweights, and we don't even have many of them in Smash either, so it'd be especially interesting to apply the throws to what's essentially a junior Sonic character. Heck, we could even have him grab you in the air and carry you around like Donkey Kong.

When I think of "lightweight grappler" I imagine Diddy Kong doing his Side B and clinging to people's faces. lol The idea of a fast, agile, lightweight grappler dancing around the stage and throwing people back and forth just sounds annoyingly hilarious to play against.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

If we are going solely by moveset potential, I am going with either Arle Nadje or Reimu. I wanted to choose characters I like for this but not ones I am as familiar with as others.

I am more familiar with Puyo, but my main experiences with it are Puyo Puyo Fever and Puyo Puyo Tetris. Honestly, I just really want to see a puzzle game character envisioned in smash. I love the idea of using Puyos as a resource and building up to an explosive combo. I love shmups so Reimu would be an ideal choice for that imo. It helps that she is human instead of, well, a ship like most shmup choices. Honestly, this is more where I think the genre itself offers something awesome moveset wise.

 

[SharkLord]

When I think of "lightweight grappler" I imagine Diddy Kong doing his Side B and clinging to people's faces. lol The idea of a fast, agile, lightweight grappler dancing around the stage and throwing people back and forth just sounds annoyingly hilarious to play against.

Thankfully, the Wind Ring seems to have a bit of wind-up and probably doesn't go as far as Diddy. That, and his games seem to be a bit slower-paced. I'd imagine he'd specialize in grabs, projectiles, and air control, balanced out by fragility and a relatively slow movement speed.

 

[SpectreJordan]

Yeah and APEX character is just straight up not coming. People said Steve came in to represent the newer generation of gamers / children, but Minecraft is like 10 years old, its impact and legacy is already well established. Even Fortnite has a far stronger legacy than APEX. If we're getting another zoomer character, then it'll be Jonesy.

Then again, Terry made it into the game before someone from Tekken, so we do have precedent for a less prominent series making it into Smash before another in the same genre.

Tbf, I think that’s because Sakurai struggled with properly representing Tekken in Smash.

So, not related to any current discussion but, which characters would you guys like to see in Smash based solely on their moveset potential / which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?

Ori, especially because he(?) got so many cool new moves in the second game; it’s almost as if they were prepping him(?) for Smash. The games being amazing also helps though lol

Shovel Knight is another one too, I think he’d be a ton of fun. Buuut he’s also from a game I really liked & I’m dying to get some SK music in Smash.

As for the unfamiliar part, Lloyd & Yuri seem like they’d be fun for me. But I like a lot of the swordies already.

 

[DarthEnderX]

I have to say I'm very surprised you two are unfamiliar with these characters since you stan them so hard

I thought the "which character from a series you're relatively unfamiliar with do you think would be fun to play?" part was a second, separate question.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Hey, I found this while I was browsing Twitter:

I made a template for Smash Bros character wishlist per company. I included both companies already in Smash Ultimate and companies that lots of people want to see included (plus Indie and "Other"). I even made an example.
Hope you enjoy! pic.twitter.com/bgH13F2Ppe

— MaximumFlyer (@MaximumFlyer) February 2, 2021

Figured we could use this for a nice bit of "character per company" discussion.