Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[JOJONumber691]

Nah, we getting the fire rabbit furry because starter Pokémon bias.

Or the Mythical who is literally in the PERFECT Position to be implemented into Smash due to SEVERAL Factors.

 

[Truth the Ceomasterz33]

Nah, we getting the fire rabbit furry because starter Pokémon bias.

Nobody! Expects us

 

[Speed Weed]

Or the Mythical who is literally in the PERFECT Position to be implemented into Smash due to SEVERAL Factors.

why have the monke of loss when you can have the monke of victory

 

[JOJONumber691]

why have the monke of loss when you can have the monke of victory
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I would love Rillaboom personally, Musician Monkey with Grass Powers would be so fun, especially if Delzethin's Concept is anything to go by, just can't see it over the Mythical Monkey with a Movie of Source Material at the moment.

 

[Flyboy]

One thing Zarude has over Rillaboom is that Zarude is a good father and his music would be composed by Hiroyuki Sawano.

I firmly believe we are not getting a SwSh Pokemon in Smash, but if we were, I think we could do worse than a big funny monkey.

 

[Adrianette Bromide]

Ah yes my favourite mythical Pokemon... slightly larger than average monkie.

 

[JOJONumber691]

I think Zarude is in a really good position to be our 2020/2021 Character, considering everything going for him. Also, Zarude is best dad don't @ me.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Can't say I want Zarude, but at the very least, we would get the Pokémon species as a whole characterized beyond "it exists".

Zarude and Zeraora should have been regular Pokémon, or given something more interesting.

 

[Firox]

I could be totally wrong, but didn't Sakurai specifically say something in Famitsu or something about there not being any new Pokemon in the DLC? I could have sworn I saw something on it but I can't remember.

 

[SneakyLink]

I could be totally wrong, but didn't Sakurai specifically say something in Famitsu or something about there not being any new Pokemon in the DLC? I could have sworn I saw something on it but I can't remember.

I don't recall Sakurai ever stating Pokémon would not be DLC via Famitsu.

I do recall him mentioning how a spot was reserved for a Pokémon in the base roster planning stages, which went to Incineroar.

 

[Deleted member]

I think Zarude is in a really good position to be our 2020/2021 Character, considering everything going for him. Also, Zarude is best dad don't @ me.

Second time you've said that without actually elaborating. What exactly is going for him?

 

[Otoad64]

honestly thinking about it zarude actually makes a lot of sense given the whole movie thing which is what lead to pokemon such as mewtwo and lucario being chosen before

and zarude could actually be pretty cool, at least it would be a grass type that isn't

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

IF we're getting a Pokemon, I'm honestly gonna be the guy that says that it would probably be something tying into New Pokemon Snap, technically speaking. Pokemon SwSh had its chance until it got Spirit Evented... New Pokemon Snap is not only an upcoming game that is the long awaited sequel to a beloved title, it's also one that is being made by Bandai Namco.

They COULD have a new Pokemon character without it being tied to Sword and Shield specifically... a way to have their cake and eat it too. It would just come with a New Pokemon Snap stage rather than a Wild Area one.


And that also leaves a rare window of freedom so to speak. If it were meant to represent New Pokemon Snap, then it doesn't really have to be a Galar Pokemon SPECIFICALLY, it can be an older one too

 

[cashregister9]

Second time you've said that without actually elaborating. What exactly is going for him?

-Pokemon
-"""Shill pick""" because we can't go five minutes without being cynical
-New
-???

 

[Deleted member]

-Pokemon
-"""Shill pick""" because we can't go five minutes without being cynical
-New
-???

I feel like those first two reasons are one and the same lol

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Tfw Calyrex gets no respect

one day you will all welcome your big brain alien reindeer overlord

 

[Otoad64]

IF we're getting a Pokemon, I'm honestly gonna be the guy that says that it would probably be something tying into New Pokemon Snap, technically speaking. Pokemon SwSh had its chance until it got Spirit Evented... New Pokemon Snap is not only an upcoming game that is the long awaited sequel to a beloved title, it's also one that is being made by Bandai Namco.

They COULD have a new Pokemon character without it being tied to Sword and Shield specifically... a way to have their cake and eat it too. It would just come with a New Pokemon Snap stage rather than a Wild Area one.


And that also leaves a rare window of freedom so to speak. If it were meant to represent New Pokemon Snap, then it doesn't really have to be a Galar Pokemon SPECIFICALLY, it can be an older one too

I mean, are there even new pokemon in that game? who would thay even do? meganium because they're on the cover maybe...

 

[cashregister9]

I feel like those first two reasons are one and the same lol

According to this site some of the times

Pokemon I like = Not Shill
Pokemon I don't like = Shill

 

[Truth the Ceomasterz33]

LMAO! Pokemon 8 gen in smash but Freaking out! nobody expects us!

 

[RileyXY1]

IF we're getting a Pokemon, I'm honestly gonna be the guy that says that it would probably be something tying into New Pokemon Snap, technically speaking. Pokemon SwSh had its chance until it got Spirit Evented... New Pokemon Snap is not only an upcoming game that is the long awaited sequel to a beloved title, it's also one that is being made by Bandai Namco.

They COULD have a new Pokemon character without it being tied to Sword and Shield specifically... a way to have their cake and eat it too. It would just come with a New Pokemon Snap stage rather than a Wild Area one.


And that also leaves a rare window of freedom so to speak. If it were meant to represent New Pokemon Snap, then it doesn't really have to be a Galar Pokemon SPECIFICALLY, it can be an older one too

Except they've never promoted a spinoff in Smash.

 

[JOJONumber691]

Second time you've said that without actually elaborating. What exactly is going for him?

Entire Movie of Source Material, being a Mythical (which tend to get marketed like crazy), unique take on the Super Heavy, Pokemon Priority, being deemed important enough to get a Movie, ease of bringing in Music from every Pokemon Entry, unique design and silhouette, being the most ideal 2020/2021 Character to add, etc etc.

 

[RileyXY1]

Entire Movie of Source Material, being a Mythical (which tend to get marketed like crazy), unique take on the Super Heavy, Pokemon Priority, being deemed important enough to get a Movie, ease of bringing in Music from every Pokemon Entry, unique design and silhouette, being the most ideal 2020/2021 Character to add, etc etc.

I don't think that they would promote Sword and Shield with a Pokemon that most people can't even use.

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Tfw Calyrex gets no respect

one day you will all welcome your big brain alien reindeer overlord

Calyrex with TWO Final Smashes depending on whatever, either Ice Rider or Shadow Rider.


Or of course.... Slowpoke with a Super Armor gimmick of sorts

Certainly wouldn't be mad about Dragapult shooting Dreepy all over

I know people get all uppity about another Pokemon but like... so many of them are so fun, maaaaaaaan

Except they've never promoted a spinoff in Smash.

They haven't BEFORE... and they still might not, I'm just spitballin the possibilities here.

 

[Otoad64]

Entire Movie of Source Material, being a Mythical (which tend to get marketed like crazy), unique take on the Super Heavy, Pokemon Priority, being deemed important enough to get a Movie, ease of bringing in Music from every Pokemon Entry, unique design and silhouette, being the most ideal 2020/2021 Character to add, etc etc.

I get most of these but "being deemed important enough to get a Movie" isn't a good reason, the majority of legendaries and mythicals get movies but lugia and victini aren't in the game.

 

[JOJONumber691]

I don't think that they would promote Sword and Shield with a Pokemon that most people can't even use.

But Nintendo and The Pokemon Company would, as they have several times in the past (Literally ANY Event Pokemon, Spiky Eared Pichu can't even be transferred over to newer entries even before Gen 8, Ash Greninja requires a Sun and Moon Demo to be played, Pikachu was one of the Rarest Pokemon in Gen 1, etc etc)

 

[RileyXY1]

But Nintendo and The Pokemon Company would, as they have several times in the past (Literally ANY Event Pokemon, Spiky Eared Pichu can't even be transferred over to newer entries even before Gen 8, Ash Greninja requires a Sun and Moon Demo to be played, Pikachu was one of the Rarest Pokemon in Gen 1, etc etc)

Except why would they do that when they have a whole bunch of other Gen 8 Pokemon that people could actually use and even a Gen 4 Pokemon to promote hypothetical remakes?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Run from it. Dread from it.

A Pokemon rep is inevitable.

 

[RileyXY1]

Run from it. Dread from it.

A Pokemon rep is inevitable.

Except I don't think so for a variety of reasons.

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

I don't think that they would promote Sword and Shield with a Pokemon that most people can't even use.

Still kinda low-key upset that they didn't send me my Zarude code even though I was subscribed to the Pokemon Newsletter... apparently not an isolated incident either

 

[RileyXY1]

But Nintendo and The Pokemon Company would, as they have several times in the past (Literally ANY Event Pokemon, Spiky Eared Pichu can't even be transferred over to newer entries even before Gen 8, Ash Greninja requires a Sun and Moon Demo to be played, Pikachu was one of the Rarest Pokemon in Gen 1, etc etc)

And in fact, most of these examples are either alts or a Final Smash cameo. Not comparable to a full fledged playable character.

 

[JOJONumber691]

Except why would they do that when they have a whole bunch of other Gen 8 Pokemon that people could actually use and even a Gen 4 Pokemon to promote hypothetical remakes?

They've never promoted Remakes as the New Characters in the Past, otherwise we would've gotten a Gen 3 Pokemon among Smash 4's DLC, Gen 8 Starters are difficult, Toxtricity and Dragapult were given artificial importance by Fans, Urshifu doesn't have an entire movie to pull from on top of being DLC. Zacian and New Snap are the only other Gen 8 options that are all that likely. Also, again, the literal Series Mascot was one of the Rarest Pokemon in his Debut Generation!

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Except they've never promoted a spinoff in Smash.

And again, that doesn't mean that they can't or won't. That being said though, I can't see Pokémon Snap getting a character since the only new character is a human with a camera. I feel like if they ever did add a spin-off Pokémon it'd be something from Pokémon Mystery Dungeon or something along those lines.

I don't think that they would promote Sword and Shield with a Pokemon that most people can't even use.

That's a good point. Though...I wonder if they could remedy that by having some sort of functionality with Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Like, if it detects the Zarude DLC, you get a Mystery Gift in Pokémon Sword and Pokémon Shield.

I'm not sure they'd do something like that though. Iirc, Mythical Pokémon only have one method of distribution until they start upchucking all the ones from the previous generations, so if they were planning on doing that they'd probably hold off on distributing the Pokémon until they get added.

But Nintendo and The Pokemon Company would, as they have several times in the past (Literally ANY Event Pokemon, Spiky Eared Pichu can't even be transferred over to newer entries even before Gen 8, Ash Greninja requires a Sun and Moon Demo to be played, Pikachu was one of the Rarest Pokemon in Gen 1, etc etc)

Those aren't really the same thing. Being difficult to find isn't the same thing as being completely unobtainable, and Pokémon Yellow was a thing, though it did only come out a year before Super Smash Bros. Ash Greninja is just the Final Smash, and while yes that means the Greninja is an event Greninja, you can still get normal Greninja quite easily in the current generation when it was added to Super Smash Bros. Spiky Eared Pichu is just a costume, and you can get normal Pichu no problem.

They've never straight up added an event Pokémon as the base. It's always just as cute nods in alternate costumes and Final Smashes.

 

[Otoad64]

sure zarude or cinderace are probably more likely but this is definently the best choice for a gen 8 rep:

 

[Schnee117]

Pikachu is only rare in Viridian Forest, they're pretty common around the power plant and it was literally the starter in yellow.

 

[Adrianette Bromide]

Run from it. Dread from it.

A Pokemon rep is inevitable.

Hey are you a Doomguy fan because all of this dooming is getting outta hand!

 

[Otoad64]

Pikachu is only rare in Viridian Forest, they're pretty common around the power plant and it was literally the starter in yellow.

not to mention he's the mascot

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

...Toxtricity and Dragapult were given artificial importance by Fans...

You mean...normal popularity?

 

[Megadoomer]

Run from it. Dread from it.

A Pokemon rep is inevitable.

I don't know about that; a new Pokemon character seems inevitable for any Smash game's base roster, but we didn't get any new Pokemon in Smash 4's DLC (seeing as Mewtwo was a veteran), or in Fighters Pass 1 (even though they easily could have added a Sword and Shield Pokemon, since it came out while FP1 was being released - it was late into FP1, but that didn't stop them from adding Byleth). It could happen, but it's not guaranteed.

Also, if you're referencing Avengers Endgame with the use of inevitable, it seems like an odd choice considering that Thanos dies almost immediately after both of the times that he says the phrase "I am inevitable", so it didn't really work out the way that he hoped.

EDIT: Sorry if my response was overly snarky, mocking, or taking a joking reference to Thanos too seriously. I've just seen way too many people act like a certain character is absolutely guaranteed, even when other characters are dismissed for being in the same position. (for example, "Fighters Pass 2 comes with Ancient Soldier Gear from the Legend of Zelda, so that means we won't be getting any Zelda characters as DLC! Also, here's why Rex from Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is guaranteed to be playable in Ultimate's DLC." I don't think I've seen anyone literally say that, but it's usually along those lines where some assist trophies or Mii costumes are absolute proof that a character won't make it in, while others could still be playable despite having an assist trophy or Mii costume)

 

[JOJONumber691]

And again, that doesn't mean that they can't or won't. That being said though, I can't see Pokémon Snap getting a character since the only new character is a human with a camera. I feel like if they ever did add a spin-off Pokémon it'd be something from Pokémon Mystery Dungeon or something along those lines.


That's a good point. Though...I wonder if they could remedy that by having some sort of functionality with Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Like, if it detects the Zarude DLC, you get a Mystery Gift in Pokémon Sword and Pokémon Shield.

I'm not sure they'd do something like that though. Iirc, Mythical Pokémon only have one method of distribution until they start upchucking all the ones from the previous generations, so if they were planning on doing that they'd probably hold off on distributing the Pokémon until they get added.


Those aren't really the same thing. Being difficult to find isn't the same thing as being completely unobtainable, and Pokémon Yellow was a thing, though it did only come out a year before Super Smash Bros. Ash Greninja is just the Final Smash, and while yes that means the Greninja is an event Greninja, you can still get normal Greninja quite easily in the current generation when it was added to Super Smash Bros. Spiky Eared Pichu is just a costume, and you can get normal Pichu no problem.

They've never straight up added an event Pokémon as the base. It's always just as cute nods in alternate costumes and Final Smashes.

True, but then again you know you're being made a priority when you also got a Movie of Source Material to pull from, more than literally every other Gen 8 Pokemon, including Cinderace, COMBINED!

 

[JOJONumber691]

You mean...normal popularity?

You mean...not being able to be considered important in November of 2019?