Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Otoad64]

I would check this out for curiosity sake but I don't want this garbage in my recommended.

that's not a blocked content video though, in fact he's debunking the leak

 

[CannonStreak]

Lol Blocked Content.

What else is new? This guy never learns. Still, apparently, that’s not him.

 

[Paraster]

that's not a blocked content video though, in fact he's debunking the leak

It's humorously yet sadly ironic that the "DEBUNKED" was cut off on the embed.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Huh, Blocked Content related video debunking a dubious leak.

Presumably this will be followed by a PapoGenos adjacent presentation suggesting not to get your hopes up too much about rumors and a GameXplain editorial decrying the lack of fair pair for employees in the video game industry.

 

[SharkLord]

“The Knight” should be written as “THE KNIGHT” all caps. This makes it look like a Mii, but if it was the Mii would have the Smash Bros symbol

That's the Mii Swordfighter render, all right. Of course, that doesn't excuse the complete lack of series icon

 

[DanganZilla5]

My bad. Anyways, Rayman and the Knight would be solid picks. In fact, I would really like to see Rayman make it in but he has had such bad luck with Smash with him only having minor roles in the games. Not that it's a bad thing, any kind of representation is a honor. But that, combined with his lack of popularity in Japan makes it seem like he will not happen, period.

Which is a shame, the Rayman games are solid and I hold the original Rayman up to a high regard. The game holds up so well today and the graphics don't even look like a PS1 game.

For the Knight, I have not played his game yet so I can't comment but I've heard great things about the game.

 

[Otoad64]

Huh, Blocked Content video debunking a dubious leak.

Presumably this will be followed by a PapoGenos presentation suggesting not to get your hopes up too much about rumors and a GameXplain editorial decrying the lack of fair pair for employees in the video game industry.

that's not a blocked content video though. this is his video:

as you can see his is a bit more... clickbaity

 

[CannonStreak]

that's not a blocked content video though. this is his video:

as you can see his is a bit more... clickbaity

Looks like he fell for the fakeness again. Then again, what else is new?

 

[3BitSaurus]

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That's the Mii Swordfighter render, all right. Of course, that doesn't excuse the complete lack of series icon

I think the icon is there, it's just that it's almost the same color as the background for some reason. Notice how the Training Stage lines appear distorted close to the Mii Knight's percentage. (You can take a better look here)

...Of course, that doesn't mean this is real. In fact, it screams "fake" even more because of it.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I saw the fake leak’s creator say something about it; basically, iirc, Hollow Knight was intended to be a mii, while Rayman was a fighter. It was intended to bait Block Content.

 

[Otoad64]

I swear to god if someone just photoshopped a png of goku into a smash bros screenshot, blurred it, and sent it to blocked content he would make a 10 minute video on it.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

At least LaxChris knew when to quit.

also that flip flopping between calling him “The Knight” and “Hollow Knight”

ok but can I say it tho?

imma say it

RAYMAN POG RAYMAN POG

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Oh well. Fake or not. It's nice to see people put this level of effort into leaks again after so long without them.

It wasn’t made with that much effort, though, and was intended to bait Block Content.

I don't get that. Like I don't think Blocked content cares if it's fake or not as long as it's at least convincing enough to get clicks so it really does more to help him than expose him.

 

[SharkLord]

At least LaxChris knew when to quit.

also that flip flopping between calling him “The Knight” and “Hollow Knight”

ok but can I say it tho?

imma say it

RAYMAN POG RAYMAN POG

I was half-expecting you to start pogging out over the Knight Mii, which could have led into the LoL leak and I know you want that one to pan out.

Though, it should be noted that for it to be true the Knight needs to come with Sealed Vessel. If it just comes with Hollow Knight Main Theme or Enter Hallownest... RIP

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I was half-expecting you to start pogging out over the Knight Mii, which could have led into the LoL leak and I know you want that one to pan out.

Though, it should be noted that for it to be true the Knight needs to come with Sealed Vessel. If it just comes with Hollow Knight Main Theme or Enter Hallownest... RIP

I was more pointing out that Rayman’s face in the thumbnail looked like a pog lmao

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It's funny, everyone and their mother suggests a Knight Mii Costume and the first mod that passes itself off as a leak since Cacomallow does one for the Knight

 

[SharkLord]

I was more pointing out that Rayman’s face in the thumbnail looked like a pog lmao

Wait...

oh god you're right

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Hey guys whats-
*Notices Hollow Knight
*Gets Happy
*Realizes its just a fake leak
*Gets Sad

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I can't believe it. Mario's ripping off Sonic ripping off Dragon Ball.

Mario, Sonic, and Dragon Ball? I think we all know we're this is going.....

 

[SharkLord]

Hey guys whats-
*Notices Hollow Knight
*Gets Happy
*Realizes its just a fake leak
*Gets Sad

I mean you'd be sad a moment later anyways once you realized it was just a Mii

 

[DarthEnderX]

The trailer for Bowser's Fury has released.

Hmm, the new stuff looks way more like Mario Odyssey than it does like 3D World.

Also, trying to make Bowser look like a badass? What is this, Smash?

So in other words, Giant Cat Bell = SSJ Godzilla Mario?

Golden Oozaru Mario.

Actually, this giant Bowser thing made me think of it as like.... Giga Bowser but official. Wouldn't be surprised if perhaps this replaced Giga Bowser in a future Smash game

I hope so. And if he does, I hope he gets unique boss moves next time instead of just being...Bowser's moveset, only bigger.

 

[cothero]

A user here made a point about Ultimate‘s roster choices:

I know Ashley and Takamaru were likely out-prioritized, but I just wanted to give some food for thought.

That said, If I were in charge of roster picks, I’d easily replace with Ashley, Takamaru and Mimikyu (the last of which I just plopped I’m there for fun).

I remember Sakurai saying in a Famitsu interview that Takamaru probably would have been a character in smash 4 if his series got revived at some point, like Punch-Out (Wii) did in Little Mac's favour:

https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/23/takamaru-originally-planned-as-playable-character-in-super-smash-bros

As for Ashley, the guy is right. I also remember her being heavily marketed and her popularity was even compared to Isabelle back then.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

The Rayman + Hollow Knight "leak" would have been neat if the creator hadn't admitted to faking it to bait Blocked Content lol

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Mario, Sonic, and Dragon Ball? I think we all know we're this is going.....

"Featuring Super Mario Bros Z Mario for Smash! When losing to Peach, the character will not clap but rather scream about hpw the feminists are taking over!"


That's all I know the creator by lmao

Hey guys whats-
*Notices Hollow Knight
*Gets Happy
*Realizes its just a fake leak
*Gets Sad

The solution is to sell people on the Knight and how cool they'd be. Hollow Knight's so cool that me not liking it is my only bad video game opinion

 

[chocolatejr9]

Mario, Sonic, and Dragon Ball? I think we all know we're this is going.....

Wasn't the creator recently exposed as a horrible human being? Other than that, I know nothing about this.

 

[3BitSaurus]

Mario, Sonic, and Dragon Ball? I think we all know we're this is going.....

No lie, I really wish the series kept going. Might actually be my favorite internet animation of all time.

 

[Otoad64]

Hmm, the new stuff looks way more like Mario Odyssey than it does like 3D World.

i don't know, there's a lot of cats in there

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Ok leaker now release the mod

three days later

“This page has been DMCA’d by Nintendo”

 

[DarthEnderX]

i don't know, there's a lot of cats in there

I'm just saying, it looks more like a huge open area than a series of linear stages.

I think it even has cat Shines...

 

[Otoad64]

I'm just saying, it looks more like a huge open area than a series of linear stages.

I think it even has cat Shines...

yeah it honestly looks like a fusion of odyssey, 3d world and sunshine

odyssey structure

3d world engine

sunshine aestetics

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Wasn't the creator recently exposed as a horrible human being? Other than that, I know nothing about this.

Wait, when did that happen? SMBZ used to be my childhood and all I knew about it was that there was a reboot that got cancelled.

 

[SharkLord]

Here's a theory I've been thinking about for a little.

Biggest Options Theory
Biggest Options Theory is simple: That each third-party character is one of (Though not necessarily the) biggest options their company has to offer. There's two definitions of "biggest option" here: Impact and recognizability in the overall industry, and popularity in the Smash fanbase.

Let's look at the third-parties so far:

• - From arguably the most well-known stealth game and highly influential for storytelling (Though he could've been an exception due to being a Kojima request, he still fits regardless)
• - Was Mario's rival back in the day, immensely popular request, Sega's mascot
• - NES legend, one of the biggest requests back in the Smash 4 days, one of Capcom's mascots (Or at least he was)
• - Easily one of the most recognizable video game characters period, Bamco's mascot
• - Mr. Fighting Game himself, one of Capcom's mascots
• - Mr. JRPG, cited as being having the most requests for a Final Fantasy character
• - A potential exception; She was supposedly chosen for the ballot, which would give her the edge in popularity, but there's also the possibility that Nintendo chose her in advance to push her series, which Nintendo helped fund.
• - NES star, did well on the ballot
• - Sort of an exception; He was an easy clone who Simon took some moves from. Though, he's basically just a Simon alt so we can count him out.
• - The original Echo Fighter; Though, as a borderline-semiclone, he's still fairly easy to make compared to most of the fighters listed here, so we could count him out too
• - A recent success, he's been heavily pushed by Sega lately. If we narrow it down to Atlus specifically, his home series is easily their biggest IP (Sorry SMT)
• - Representative for the defining JRPG, a cultural phenomenon in Japan
• - Extremely popular, constantly topping polls since the Melee era. If we go for Rare specifically, I think they're easily their most recognizable creation
• - The mascot of SNK as a whole, despite his lack of relevance in recent games.
• - The biggest game ever
• - One of the most iconic villains in gaming, and has one of the most iconic boss themes to boot

Based on the 14-16 characters so far, we can predict that future third-party characters will also be the from the biggest games in a company's selection and/or the most frequently-requested characters they own.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

I’ve watched the Bowsers Fury trailer 4 damn times now and I still don’t know what’s happening.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I’ve watched the Bowsers Fury trailer 4 damn times now and I still don’t know what’s happening.

Bowser ruins a family vacation at the beach so his son is forced to join with his worst nemesis to stop him. And there's Super Saiyan cats too.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

- A potential exception; She was supposedly chosen for the ballot, which would give her the edge in popularity, but there's also the possibility that Nintendo chose her in advance to push her series, which Nintendo helped fund.

It has been confirmed that Bayonetta started work just after the ballot kicked off. She is 100% not a ballot pick.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Wait, when did that happen? SMBZ used to be my childhood and all I knew about it was that there was a reboot that got cancelled.

He unironically whined about feminism going too far because Peach is a top tier in Ultimate

 

[Greyfox22]

Blocked Content: "Rayman and Hollow Knight LEAKED! 100% real images!"

Pretty sad how fake this is considering how cool it would be to get Rayman and the Knight.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

New Switch color scheme bundle announced.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

He unironically whined about feminism going too far because Peach is a top tier in Ultimate

Ah yes, Peach. The pinnacle of feminism.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I have been working on a somewhat tangential theory myself - Trailer Theory

some can stand on their own like Steve or Terry or Byleth or Joker, but others might be follow ups to other trailers or have a connection to something else.

Banjo’s trailer - sequel to K. Rool’s
Hero’s trailer - post-WoL Bad Ending A (Galeem alone is defeated, Dharkon spreads their corruption all across the universe, everyone is being controlled. Link’s the last one to avoid giving in until the Heroes appear)
Sephiroth’s trailer - post-WoL Bad Ending B (Dharkon alone is defeated, Galeem is about to erase everyone else again. But for real this time. At least until Sephiroth kills them and is like “my city now”)
I make this sound like a visual novel lmao

what I think we might see

• Final Battle trailer vs both Galeem AND Dharkon (boi if it ain’t Elma with Uncontrollable playing imma be miffed)
• Sequel to Simon/Richter’s trailer (Reimu because Embodiment of Scarlet Devil? Ryu Hayabusa because NES connection?)
• Sequel to Ridley’s Trailer (Master Chief? KOS-MOS?)
• MAYBE a sequel to Kencineroar too? Assuming there’s more dlc after this pass ends