Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[SKX31]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is a Groose discussion now.

Groose should be the true hero of BOTW2.

I'm not accepting any other alternatives.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I mean, one kid has abandonment issues, one has a split personality disorder, and the other is a massive glutton.
There's a reason Layton is known as an English gentleman but not world No.1 dad...

He is at least 20% a good dad because With Lukes backstory, im glad he never leaves his side

 

[Gengar84]

You know what I would absolutely love that I don’t think is ever going to happen? An actual character creator completely separate from Miis. I usually love creating characters in games but have never cared for the Mii aesthetic so I never bothered with it. I’m curious if that would have ever been considered if Miis were never a thing.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Nintendo really officially endorsing scalpers and price gouging lol.

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[chocolatejr9]

Nintendo really officially endorsing scalpers and price gouging lol.

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That probably means they'd endorse VPNs! This is how Euden wins!

 

[epicmartin7]

Nintendo really officially endorsing scalpers and price gouging lol.

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pain

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Don't forget to grab the three new spirits off the spirit board that launched today! Grab some Burger King before doing so, and go watch the Space Jam AFTER doing so. I don't make the rules.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Not really?

He summons skulls as projectiles, but that's about the extent of how far his gamelay goes when it comes to dead stuff.

You probably mixed him up with Quan Chi because Shang Tsung is more of a shapeshifter than a necromancer

Well he does steal your soul in order to shapeshift. That's pretty necromancer like. It's also fairly unique. The only other example of this kind of thing that I can think of is The First Evil who could take the form of anyone who had ever died.

You fools
I have a game with ALL the -mancers!

Well, most of them at least lol

Fire - Pyromancer (check)
Death - Necromancer (nope)
Storm - Diviners (nope, but have some correlation to Hydromancers through water and storms and whatnot)
Myth - Conjurers (nope)
Life - Theurges (nope)
Balance - Sorcerers (nope)
Ice - Thaumaturges (yes, technically because Cryomancers - ice, hail, etc) TECHNICALLY, however, Thaumaturge is also a universal name for a general wizard no matter the type of spells one practices. "workers of miracles" if you will.

I would say they would work for these:

• Pyromancer: Pyromancer
• Hydromancer
• Geomancer: Sorcerer
• Aeromancer
• Cryomancer: Thaumaturge
• Electromancer: Diviner (most of the spells conjure lightning attacks IIRC)

As for the Young Wizard as all of the picks:

Bonus: Necromancer:
-Kass (The Legend of Zelda)

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The heck does he get up to that I haven't seen?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Well he does steal your soul in order to shapeshift. That's pretty necromancer like. It's also fairly unique. The only other example of this kind of thing that I can think of is The First Evil who could take the form of anyone who had ever died.

Metal Sonic could work as a Shang Tsung-like shapeshifter thing too.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Well he does steal your soul in order to shapeshift. That's pretty necromancer like. It's also fairly unique. The only other example of this kind of thing that I can think of is The First Evil who could take the form of anyone who had ever died.


I would say they would work for these:

• Pyromancer: Pyromancer
• Hydromancer
• Geomancer: Sorcerer
• Aeromancer
• Cryomancer: Thaumaturge
• Electromancer: Diviner (most of the spells conjure lightning attacks IIRC)

As for the Young Wizard as all of the picks:
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The heck does he get up to that I haven't seen?

Eh, it’s a bit of a stretch but I heard someone say that for Smash he could play the Champions’ various songs to summon their spirit forms (“Daruk’s Protection is Ready to Roll” etc.) and it stuck with me ever since

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Alright, I should probably do my own list as well:

• Pyromancer: Sol
• Hydromancer: Nia & Dromarch
• Geomancer: Garchomp
• Aeromancer: Vandham & Roc
• Cryomancer: Slam Bam
• Electromancer: Urbosa

I don't think I'll try either of my challenges. lol

 

[pupNapoleon]

It doesn't necessarily do that. People were saying they'd like Phoenix Wright to have a trailer where Joker is facing trial for stealing an invitation, and nobody's implying Ace Attorney and Persona are the same series. It would just be cool to tie the first and final trailers together.

It wouldn't matter anyway, because Sakurai would 100% say that they're both parts of Megami Tensei during the Sakurai Presents, he even mentioned it in his Persona 4 anniversary post.

I think if Sakurai considers Persona and SMT the same series- then it would be received even more poorly to get a second character from the series. G-d help us all.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Eh, it’s a bit of a stretch but I heard someone say that for Smash he could play the Champions’ various songs to summon their spirit forms (“Daruk’s Protection is Ready to Roll” etc.) and it stuck with me ever since

Oh OK. I thought he was getting into some inadvisable stuff in the original game. lol

It is an interesting concept though.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Aeromancer:
-Pidgey (Pokémon)

Of all things to say...

Both Galeem and Dharkon lose to Waluigi first because he throws down the Dueling Glove, therefore challenging them (see, he didn't get in Smash Bros before because he didn't throw down the Mario Party Dueling Glove). First you see the Dueling Glove laying there, then they turn and see Waluigi!


WALUIGI CRASHES THE PARTY!

Then after a gameplay montage, it is thanks to Mario Party random chance BS that Galeem and Dharkon are both thwarted as is everyone else. I dunno, maybe Waluigi rolled a 10 on the dice block and it made his attack stupidly strong? Anyhow, Waluigi rises into the sky and is told "YOU ARE THE SUPER STAR!"

I love everything about this post- and I do hope that if we get Waluigi, it is a Mario Party board- which I have wanted for ages.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Of all things to say...

I love everything about this post- and I do hope that if we get Waluigi, it is a Mario Party board- which I have wanted for ages.

Okay but I fully believe an aeromancer character should be small and flexible. It’s much harder to buy a bulky character getting swept up by the wind, whereas a small bird like Pidgey can get lifted no problem. Then the Pokémon element is there to make it believable that such a small bird can also swipe up tornados if it wants to.

 

[Perkilator]

On the subject of elemental abilities, say we had an elemental pass. Who would be your picks for:

• The Pyromancer
• The Hydromancer
• The Geomancer
• The Aeromancer
• The Cryomancer
• The...uh...electricity doesn't really have a prefix does it?

The characters don't have to be casters, they just have to have the element associated with them. Example characters from the game itself would be Roy, Squirtle, uh...Steeeeve?, none of them, Ice Climbers, and Pikachu. A character does not count if they use a few different elements equally, even if one of their moves is iconic (PK Fire is very notable, but doesn't count as a motif for the character). For the sake of clarity, plant based abilities don't count as earth, and if a "water" mage mostly uses ice spells, they count as ice and not water (if they use both the same amount then...take your pick I guess).

Hard Mode: None of them can be a Pokémon.
Impossible Mode: None of them can come from groups where everyone is themed after an element, so no Blades, Skylanders, Rivals (of Aether), etc.

My moveset for Sora ticks four of these boxes with his neutral special:

• Pyromancer (Firaga)
• Aeromancer (Aeroga)
• Cryomancer (Blizzaga)
• Electromancer (Thundaga)

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Geomancer: Garchomp

ayo?

 

[TheLamerGamer]

I think if Sakurai considers Persona and SMT the same series- then it would be received even more poorly to get a second character from the series. G-d help us all.

I never said they're the same series, I said they're part of the broader megami tensei franchise, which Sakurai has also mentioned. Like Mario and Donkey Kong, but not really.

Also, people seem happy with Joker's inclusion, so people might dislike an SMT rep less if they're associated with each other. Unless someone's angry that it's not Yu or Makoto or something (I want Tatsuya, but that's never happening).

I don't think the backlash will be as bad as you think anyway. It definitely won't be as popular as something like Sephiroth, but it's a popular (if a bit niche) series with a lot of history, especially on Nintendo consoles. It'll come with amazing music as well, so as long as they're fun to play as people hopefully won't mind.

Even if people do get upset, I really don't care. The people who get angry with reveals are a toxic part of the fanbase that I ignore, so it won't impact me at all (and if I did see it I wouldn't care. People are entitled to their opinions, if everyone agreed with me it would be boring).

 

[Gengar84]

My moveset for Sora ticks four of these boxes with his neutral special:

• Pyromancer (Firaga)
• Aeromancer (Aeroga)
• Cryomancer (Blizzaga)
• Electromancer (Thundaga)

Yeah, same goes for my Magus moveset, except trade wind for shadow.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

New Nintendo Summer Renders.

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[SharkLord]

Even if people do get upset, I really don't care. The people who get angry with reveals are a toxic part of the fanbase that I ignore, so it won't impact me at all (and if I did see it I wouldn't care. People are entitled to their opinions, if everyone agreed with me it would be boring).

Just remember: If people are upset at your most wanted, it won't matter because the sheer volume of dopamine your brain produces at the reveal will equal and exceed the disappointment anyways.

 

[TheLamerGamer]

Just remember: If people are upset at your most wanted, it won't matter because the sheer volume of dopamine your brain produces at the reveal will equal and exceed the disappointment anyways.

Exactly. It's not like I'll go

"Wow, Nahobibo is in smash, and they're coming with amazing music, but I can't be happy because some other people I've never met dislike the character."

I'd just be happy my most wanted character is in smash, and immediately play as them when they release.

(Admittedly if my actual most wanted character got in I wouldn't be happy because I'd actually be dead from shock).

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Reggie's writing a book.

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[CannonStreak]

Reggie's writing a book.

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The title should have been, "My Body is Ready!".

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Reggie's writing a book.

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The goat himself

 

[Theguy123]

What are the chances that the last character will be a speedy character of some sort. We’ve basically got 1 fast character and 6 slow characters In this pass (6 because I count myphra and she’s slow, 5 if you don’t count myphra)

 

[GilTheGreat19]

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Jonesy do be inevitable

 

[ArkSPiTFirE]

Well this give me an excuse to put Isaac in one of these. uI could fill it with the rest of the Golden Sun cast too, but i'll try and think of something else.

• The Pyromancer - Spyro
• The Hydromancer - Alex (I got nothing)
• The Geomancer - Isaac
• The Aeromancer - Vaati
• The Cryomancer - Sub Zero
• The Electromancer - Urbosa

I had to stretch for the bottom two.

 

[Perkilator]

Dunno if anyone said this before me, but we're doing a gacha day in RTC.

 

[GoodGrief741]

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Jonesy do be inevitable

Jesus

Why is one of the crossovers Fortnite x Fortnite? And why is Jesse one of the big nexus points in this chart?

 

[PeridotGX]

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Jonesy do be inevitable

why are ff7 and steven universe directly connected? does peridot call sephiroth a clod in the remake or something?

 

[Mushroomguy12]

why are ff7 and steven universe directly connected? does peridot call sephiroth a clod in the remake or something?

Probably this.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

What are the chances that the last character will be a speedy character of some sort. We’ve basically got 1 fast character and 6 slow characters In this pass (6 because I count myphra and she’s slow, 5 if you don’t count myphra)

Judging by the archetype spread:

• Balanced: (Not entirely certain this is correct)
• Rush Down:
  
• Zoner: (EDIT: Actually you could pretty easily argue that Pyra is a heavy)
• Heavy:

They're pretty clearly not really looking to differentiate fighters in this way, so it'll just be a happy coincidence if the last character is fast.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Skyward Sword HD Unboxing.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Jonesy do be inevitable

Yeah I think it's a stretch to say that a lot of these are canon to the other, especially when their "canonical" crossover appearance is being canonically fictional in that universe, making it not canon.

And why is Jesse one of the big nexus points in this chart?

'Cuz it feels like a party every day no matter what universe you're from.

Fun Fact: One of the Spider Man cartoons has a crossover episode with Jessie.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Yeah I think it's a stretch to say that a lot of these are canon to the other, especially when their "canonical" crossover appearance is being canonically fictional in that universe, making it not canon.

Reading this made my head hurt...

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Yeah I think it's a stretch to say that a lot of these are canon to the other, especially when their "canonical" crossover appearance is being canonically fictional in that universe, making it not canon.

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it was a joke tweet ...
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for the most part

 

[Adrianette Bromide]

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it was a joke tweet ...
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for the most part

It was just a jab at people that freak out when they're favourite game franchise touches icky yicky smucky schmoopy stinky fart poopoo fartnite.

 

[PeridotGX]

Probably this.

but that's a fictional series that's based on ff7, not actual ff7. by that logic, final fantasy 7 is canon to our world because bootleg cloud toys exist here too.

there are ways to link the series for real, too. Garnet in steven universe >Garnet in OKKO > Sonic in OKKO > Sonic in Smash > Cloud in Smash.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

but that's a fictional series that's based on ff7, not actual ff7. by that logic, final fantasy 7 is canon to our world because bootleg cloud toys exist here too.

there are ways to link the series for real, too. Garnet in steven universe >Garnet in OKKO > Sonic in OKKO > Sonic in Smash > Cloud in Smash.

I mean, megacorps destroying the enviroment while making life for the average joe hell is a theme both FF7 and real life share so...