Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[WeirdChillFever]

Here's a based idea for a Mii Costume

Clash of Clans!?

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Clash of Clans!?

I don't know whether I want to laugh with you or strangle you

 

[Gengar84]

Clash of Clans!?

That looks like Brawlhalla to me.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I'd totally love to see a Premiium Mii Brawler costume of Freddy Fazbear, along with this song:

I prefer 240 Bits Per Mile, but this one is pretty good too.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Found a 4chan leak concerning Monday's presentation.
I would've considered it a bit more seriously, but there's one thing that's bugging me about it
Well, have a look.

/v/ - Smash Leak 6/28 - Video Games - 4chan

Smash Leak 6/28 - "/v/ - Video Games" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to the discussion of PC and console video games.

boards.4channel.org

"Jin is an echo fighter"

NO PLEASE! DON'T PLAY WITH MY HEART LIKE THAT! HOW COULD I WANT AN ECHO FIGHTER SO BADLY?

 

[Twilord]

Maybe in a future GabaLeth comic, Sephy would yeet Junior to get revenge on Kaz for yeeting Pichu?

Sephiroth wields the Aegis Sword while avenging Pichu?

 

[WeirdChillFever]

I don't know whether I want to laugh with you or strangle you

I can deal with both.

That looks like Brawlhalla to me.

Oh that is based!

Right now, I think one of my most wanted pieces of content in the game (or at the very least the thing that I can actually see happening) might be a Shovel Knight Mii Costume.

Actually, since the page reloaded, I’d love to see an Echo Fighter. They’re one of my favorite additions to this game and I’d love to see them expanded a bit.

 

[Spatman]

So, if Phoenix Wright turns out to be the last fighter for Ultimate, would you be okay with it? I've been in a bit of a debate on a Discord server over whether or not he or Dante are more likely, the most I've gotten from the Dante side is just the recent Switch ports (only one of which has any new content) over the longer, more substantial history of the Ace Attorney series on Nintendo consoles.

No offense, but I wouldn't like Phoenix Wright at all. I'd prefer Dante by a far margin, and still I wouldn't like him either haha

He’s not really one of my most wanted but I’d be okay with just about anyone. Phoenix could be pretty funny judging by his portrayal in Marvel vs Capcom.

For some reason, I cannot see Sakurai giving a character the very same moveset that character uses in a spin off which doesn't come from his/her series, and even more, much more, if that spin off is a fighting game whereas that character series isn't a fighting series.
Representing just one or two attacks from that game is alright, but the whole moveset or the majority of it looks to me frankly impossible.
Same thing can be said for Ryu Hayabusa (in smash he would have the majority of moveset from the Ninja Gaiden, I wouldn't expect more than a couple of moves taken from his incarnation in DOA), but especially for Phoenix, since the same joke character in two different fighting games from two different series cannot work, come on

 

[Gengar84]

I can deal with both.




Oh that is based!

Right now, I think one of my most wanted pieces of content in the game (or at the very least the thing that I can actually see happening) might be a Shovel Knight Mii Costume.

Actually, since the page reloaded, I’d love to see an Echo Fighter. They’re one of my favorite additions to this game and I’d love to see them expanded a bit.

My favorite original characters from that game are Jhala and Mako. I do love that they added some of my favorite WWE wrestlers to the game like Becky Lynch, Asuka, and the Undertaker. I’ve been a fan of WWE since the late 80’s so it’s cool to see wrestlers in a game like that.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Spoiler: Media

Now I'm sad.

 

[Inferno7]

I still wanna believe Sonic could fit into the second chance theory

same
about the theory itself, it seems to be legit
I don't think it's a coincidence that most of the content in FP2 was planned to appear in Smash at some point

 

[GilTheGreat19]

If it's another Sonic character dear god please give me the SASRT Burning Rangers theme remix

 

[2006ToyotaTacoma]

So, if Phoenix Wright turns out to be the last fighter for Ultimate, would you be okay with it? I've been in a bit of a debate on a Discord server over whether or not he or Dante are more likely, the most I've gotten from the Dante side is just the recent Switch ports (only one of which has any new content) over the longer, more substantial history of the Ace Attorney series on Nintendo consoles.

I'd personally take Amaterasu a lot more than Phoenix or Dante, but I still would be down for Phoenix. He's probably my 3rd most wanted Capcom pick (behind Dante and Sun doggo).

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Kazuya and Bowser Jr. aren't near each other in the Everyone is Here banner
Therefore, they can't be a new power team

Nah keep 'em apart, we don't need the Mishimas poisoning this healthy father son relationship.

 

[Gengar84]

I'd personally take Amaterasu a lot more than Phoenix or Dante, but I still would be down for Phoenix. He's probably my 3rd most wanted Capcom pick (behind Dante and Sun doggo).

I’ve never really played Okami but Amaterasu appeals to me a lot as a potential character. I love characters with really unique proportions in Smash and it would be awesome to fight as a wolf. Bonus points for modding potential for Repede, Red XIII, Wolf Link, and Houndoom.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Nah keep 'em apart, we don't need the Mishimas poisoning this healthy father son relationship.

Idk man I've been playing Mario Rabbids at work because it's the one ****ing Nintendo game to get decent discounts and I just saw this

Sidenote put Rabbid Peach in, she's ****ing hilarious and ****ing mandatory I swear

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I’ve never really played Okami but Amaterasu appeals to me a lot as a potential character. I love characters with really unique proportions in Smash and it would be awesome to fight as a wolf. Bonus points for modding potential for Repede, Red XIII, Wolf Link, and Houndoom.

Another thing that makes me sad is that we'll never have a Codex conversation about Amaterasu.


"Colonel, there's this white wolf attacking me with invisible weaponry!"

 

[MattX20]

Amaterasu's got a ton of moveset potential, and anyone's seen MVC3 videos will know that she can be quite a powerhouse

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Another thing that makes me sad is that we'll never have a Codex conversation about Amaterasu.


"Colonel, there's this white wolf attacking me with invisible weaponry!"

Nah Big Boss believes in Santa so the codec would be Snake and Otacon fighting about if she's a normal wolf or not

 

[GilTheGreat19]

I mean look I'll take some more 4-legged fighters
Spyro would be based, wouldn't mind Amaterasu...


Edit: Ayo imagine a playable Dodongo

 

[Speed Weed]

If it's another Sonic character dear god please give me the SASRT Burning Rangers theme remix

I've gone on record in the past talking about why a second Sonic character being our next SEGA rep would be Super Duper Lame in my opinion, but if somehow, someway, against all odds, they came with music from other SEGA games, then I have to admit that would kinda make it sting less for me.

On the likelier side of things, even just a couple new SEGA Miis from other series would make it a lil better

 

[Inferno7]

never really played Okami but Amaterasu has a cool design for a ''furry'' character as Smash fans may call it
lots of moveset/modding potential, and ain't she some sort of god? I'm all for canonically powerful characters
still, I'm not confident on her happening before DMC, RE, MH or Ace Attorney, especially after they shafted her in MvCI

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Idk man I've been playing Mario Rabbids at work because it's the one ****ing Nintendo game to get decent discounts and I just saw this
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Sidenote put Rabbid Peach in, she's ****ing hilarious and ****ing mandatory I swear

This post made me go from never even thinking about Mario vs Rabbids to putting it on my To Get list.

 

[Ivander]

If it's another Sonic character dear god please give me the SASRT Burning Rangers theme remix

As much as I want more music from different 3rd Party games, I can't see additional 3rd party music tracks on a 3rd Party stage unrelated to them happening(Pac-Man being the special case since the original Pac-Man didn't exactly have music). Afterburner on Bayonetta's stage only happened as it was the version from Bayonetta, whereas the Burning Rangers mix was on a crossover game(even if it's Sonic and All-Stars).

That aside, a stage that is a list of a companies' unrepresented games would be awesome. Like a Sega Genesis stage that rotates around games that were on the system, like Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Streets of Rage, Phantasy Star II, Revenge of Shinobi, Ecco the Dolphin, etc. They would use the same graphics as their respective games and besides Sonic music, it would also have other Sega series music.
Or a Capcom Arcade stage that switches between stages from Capcom Arcade games, like Street Fighter Alpha, Final Fight, Darkstalkers, Bionic Commando, Ghosts'n Goblins, Strider, Forgotten Worlds, etc. Once again using the original graphics.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Amaterasu has a cool design for a ''furry'' character as Smash fans may call it

I think you're thinking something different. "Furry" to me would be the Star Fox cast, not any animal.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Nah Big Boss believes in Santa so the codec would be Snake and Otacon fighting about if she's a normal wolf or not

He does? That's a little odd considering he denies the existence of magic whilst fighting Zelda. lol (though Snake in Smash is probably written differently from Big Boss)

Edit: Ayo imagine a playable Dodongo

INB4 it's inhale ability is better than Kirby and King Dedede's Inhales.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

He does? That's a little odd considering he denies the existence of magic whilst fighting Zelda. lol (though Snake in Smash is probably written differently from Big Boss)

He's real I tell ya.

 

[Super Devon]

What is second chance theory? just curious.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

That aside, a stage that is a list of a companies' unrepresented games would be awesome. Like a Sega Genesis stage that rotates around games that were on the system, like Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Streets of Rage, Phantasy Star II, Revenge of Shinobi, Ecco the Dolphin, etc. They would use the same graphics as their respective games and besides Sonic music, it would also have other Sega series music.

yes. Yes. YES.
I LOVE THAT IDEA
Golden Axe, too!

A love letter to Sega, I love it.
Your Capcom idea is great, too!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

This post made me go from never even thinking about Mario vs Rabbids to putting it on my To Get list.

Iirc it's like 10 bucks now without the DLC, been enjoying my time so far though the usable cast is rather lacking as you only really get to customize 2 party members and Mario can't be switched out it seems

He does? That's a little odd considering he denies the existence of magic whilst fighting Zelda. lol (though Snake in Smash is probably written differently from Big Boss)


INB4 it's inhale ability is better than Kirby and King Dedede's Inhales.

That dialogue probably wasn't even an idea in Kojima's mind back in Brawl tbf

 

[Guynamednelson]

What is second chance theory? just curious.

All FP2 fighters are based on things Sakurai previously wanted to do. ARMS and XC2 were too new for the base game, he had issues getting a Tekken fighter to work in Smash 4, Nintendo wanted Steve as early as 2015, and you bet that Sakurai wanted FFVII's music and spirit selection to be better in the base game, but it was easier for Squenix to allow it if they earned money from it.

 

[Inferno7]

What is second chance theory? just curious.

in short, all the characters in FP2 have been sort of filling gaps from base game, also the fact most of them were planned beforehand but couldn't get in due to several reasons (bar maybe Sephiroth, but I'm pretty sure the extra FF7 content fits the bill)
-XC2 and ARMS were planned to be in base game but couldn't get in due to bad timing
-Minecraft was negotiated for 5 years
-Seph fixed FF7's lackluster representation
-Kazuya comes from Tekken, a franchise that was implied to get in at some point due to Sakurai's comment on Heihachi (as in, how he wanted him in Sm4sh but couldn't make him work or come up with a moveset)

edit: Ninja'd once again

 

[MattX20]

All FP2 fighters are based on things Sakurai previously wanted to do. ARMS and XC2 were too new for the base game, he had issues getting a Tekken fighter to work in Smash 4, Nintendo wanted Steve as early as 2015, and you bet that Sakurai wanted FFVII's music and spirit selection to be better in the base game, but it was easier for Squenix to allow it if they earned money from it.

in short, all the characters in FP2 have been sort of filling gaps from base game, also the fact most of them were planned beforehand but couldn't get in due to several reasons (bar maybe Sephiroth, but I'm pretty sure the extra FF7 content fits the bill)
-XC2 and ARMS were planned to be in base game but couldn't get in due to bad timing
-Minecraft was negotiated for 5 years
-Seph fixed FF7's lackluster representation
-Kazuya comes from Tekken, a franchise that was implied to get in at some point due to Sakurai's comment on Heihachi (as in, how he wanted him in Sm4sh but couldn't make him work or come up with a moveset)

edit: Ninja'd once again

and with that, Rhythm Heaven and Famicom Detective Club are two of the main IPs that Sakurai has commented on including or at least considered in the past. It's why I'm looking at Ayumi Tachibana in particular, and not just because of the remakes as well as the fact it's the first time the series was given a worldwide release.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

never really played Okami but Amaterasu has a cool design for a ''furry'' character as Smash fans may call it
lots of moveset/modding potential, and ain't she some sort of god? I'm all for canonically powerful characters
still, I'm not confident on her happening before DMC, RE, MH or Ace Attorney, especially after they shafted her in MvCI

She's not anthropomorphic so I don't think she would be considered a "furry" character.

Anyway, yeah there's no way she's getting in. Want a big character? We've got Dante, Monster Hunter, a handful of Resident Evil characters, Mega Man X, Zero, Chun-Li, Zangief, Guile, and probably even more. Want a low key character? Well Arthur has that retro hero thing going on, Phoenix Wright is super popular among Nintendo fans, and Morrigan gets into everything. You'd really have to specifically want Amaterasu, and unless my ballot vote isn't one of like, 10, that's just not happening.

Also how much do you want to bet that they dropped Amaterasu because they couldn't mocap her?

He's real I tell ya.

Well I never thought I would describe anything about Snake as adorable but here we are.

Kinda feel bad for him now.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Also, Rie, 3BitSaurus, you guys are the main 2 LoL Smash speculators I can think of rn

I randomly remembered this, but have you guys heard about that one time a fan asked a question to the LoL twitter page, and the page responded back with (I believe) a "Yes! blah blah" followed by a Captain Falcon "YES!" gif taken from Ultimate? I'm not overreading it, just thought it was neat.
I know for a fact PapaGenos covered this. but I currently cannot find what video he did so.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Also how much do you want to bet that they dropped Amaterasu because they couldn't mocap her?

Didn't they reuse MVC3 animations for the most part anyway? I mean there's a reason most of Infinite's cast was already in that game.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Could we get a non-Namco costume?

Probably. Square is the only one that takes over the entire pack when they have a character.

 

[Technomage]

Could we get a non-Namco costume?

Maybe a Mii costume of a character from another fighting game (especially a 3D one) could happen?

 

[GilTheGreat19]

I'm surprised but also not on one thing
I've seen a bunch of Mii Costume predictions for Round 10, but barely anyone's predicting Scorpion.

I personally could see it, especially because we've had some characters from big western series get Mii'd already.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Didn't they reuse MVC3 animations for the most part anyway? I mean there's a reason most of Infinite's cast was already in that game.

True. They might still have dropped her for a few other kinda dumb reasons though:

1. MvCI's (attempt at a) photo-realistic artstyle would mean that Amaterasu's oil painting look wouldn't fly, and they'd have to overhaul her model with realistic fur textures, which would be pretty difficult.
   • Considering that they very obviously did not mess with the previous game's models much, I don't think they would have done that.
2. She can't talk, so she wouldn't really be able to have much interaction with the other characters in the story mode besides reacting to dialogue.
   • Honestly though, that would probably make her the best written character in the entire story. lol
   • However, they would probably also try and throw Issun into conversations, which would be particularly cursed.