Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[rychu_supadude]

Since Ultimate was revealed, the only presentations that didn't open with a character reveal were Isabelle's (Luigi's Mansion 3), Terry's (Overwatch), and the "Joker is still coming" one (Super Mario Maker 2). It is a bit hard to gauge since 2020 gave us so many standalone reveals, though. If they do have a new game, that'll take precedence as the lead in.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Spoiler

If Vergeben is true, which I think he is, then we all know this song will be used as the equivalent of Opening Bombing Mission in reveal trailer.

 

[zferolie]

Spoiler

If Vergeben is true, which I think he is, then we all know this song will be used as the equivalent of Opening Bombing Mission in reveal trailer.

God I would love to hear that music in smash, Gives me chills still, and I don't even like any of the past 2 halo games And man, if they have the Multiplyer kill voice in the game somehow, maybe everytime he gets a kill, I would love it

But again, I'm not assuming leaks are real. I am waiting to see for myself

 

[Dukefire]

If we are looking at other games being presented during the direct, I can say that Breath of the Wild 2 may get the main focus of how the environment, controls, new weapons and much more to offer.
Splatoon 3's preview may be saved for the Winter direct as that one is coming next year. Metroid Prime 4 or Bayonetta 3? (Either one may get attention.)

 

[DarkFalcon]

Yea I think the Champions thing is a load of bull. 4 different movesets for a single character is way too much work. It'd be more believable if it was a single champion. "What about Pokémon Trainer?" Don't care lol.

 

[volbound1700]

Yea I think the Champions thing is a load of bull. 4 different movesets for a single character is way too much work. It'd be more believable if it was a single champion. "What about Pokémon Trainer?" Don't care lol.

Well to be fair, the DLC period has been about as long as the development of the FULL game and he kept a lot of the team on board. They definitely should have had the time to do some crazy stuff.

 

[Garteam]

Spoiler

Upon reflecting upon it, the only way I could really see the Champions realistically working in this current climate is if they're connected to a common character and are getting summoned for attacks. Basically, imagine Zelda using the spirits of the Champions as stands.

That being said, even that seems like a strange choice and it begs the question as to why people are claiming the character is the named "The Champions" and not "Wild Zelda" or something.

Okay, that's it, real final post before the reveal over. Good luck again, everyone.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Man I just can't believe how far Smash has gone.

Going from 12 characters to a looping 82 (Potentially a few more)!

Damn man.

 

[WahHahaha]

Maybe CP11 could have been added because of Master Chief I just can't get over how well Finishes the fight works as a tagline. And maybe they added it so Microsoft could get an extra character when companies usually get 1 rep per pass.

I still think it would be weird for CP11 to leak before CP10, but I don't know, just a thought. I've always thought it was weird that we're getting 6 characters but perhaps I'm looking at the wrong character that it could be hinting at.

 

[DarkFalcon]

Well to be fair, the DLC period has been about as long as the development of the FULL game and he kept a lot of the team on board. They definitely should have had the time to do some crazy stuff.

Really, the only conceivable way I imagine it being possible is if they've been worked on for longer than any other. Because you're making 4 different characters, but that still seems like too much for a "single" character. It isn't like they aren't deserving or anything, but it's such an insane amount of work.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Maybe CP11 could have been added because of Master Chief I just can't get over how well Finishes the fight works as a tagline. And maybe they added it so Microsoft could get an extra character when companies usually get 1 rep per pass.

I still think it would be weird for CP11 to leak before CP10, but I don't know, just a thought. I've always thought it was weird that we're getting 6 characters but perhaps I'm looking at the wrong character that it could be hinting at.

Doubt it. Taglines are exclusive to the localised trailers.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Really, the only conceivable way I imagine it being possible is if they've been worked on for longer than any other. Because you're making 4 different characters, but that still seems like too much for a "single" character. It isn't like they aren't deserving or anything, but it's such an insane amount of work.

Would make sense considering BotW is their current cash cow.

A lot of priority would go into it

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I don’t see the Lloyd Mii returning with Chief if he’s next. I think the last character will be a JRPG dude

and they’ll come with both Lloyd’s Mii and a Crono Mii

That’s right baby more in favor of my son Neku already! I’m getting the best for last!

 

[DarkFalcon]

Would make sense considering BotW is their current cash cow.

A lot of priority would go into it

Very fair point. It'd make a lot of people happy that's for sure.

 

[Technomage]

Yeah, I doubt we'd get a single champion for a 4-in-1 champion; I'm placing my bets on either Wild Zelda or Mummydorf.

 

[EntropyAtrophy]

Would make sense considering BotW is their current cash cow.

A lot of priority would go into it

Also, take into consideration they have until 12/2021 to meet their development deadline.
That's plenty of time to program everything and remain on schedule.

 

[SlickWylde]

I see people (again!) mentioning Vergeben and leaks, did he leak something specifically related to today, like a new leak? Or are we taking info from an older leak? This thread is hard to keep up with and it's also hard to tell when people are just playing off a joke. I see "The Champions" talk and Master Chief talk. Are these actual predictions and somewhat likely based on leaks?

 

[WahHahaha]

I see people (again!) mentioning Vergeben and leaks, did he leak something specifically related to today, like a new leak? Or are we taking info from an older leak? This thread is hard to keep up with and it's also hard to tell when people are just playing off a joke. I see "The Champions" talk and Master Chief talk. Are these actual predictions and somewhat likely based on leaks?

Master Chief was leaked pretty directly by Vergeben. People think BOTW champions might come because it seemed like he hinted at in the comments, I doubt it though. He'd probably make a separate post for that.

Here's the post where he directly leaked Master Chief https://www.reddit.com/user/DasVergeben/comments/o0bery/cortana_tell_me_whos_coming_to_smash/

 

[rychu_supadude]

So, if it is a double reveal, does this thread just... not reopen? There'll be nothing else to speculate about. Unless people desperately want to discuss the final Mii costumes (I would but I know I ain't everyone)

 

[RileyXY1]

Also, take into consideration they have until 12/2021 to meet their development deadline.
That's plenty of time to program everything and remain on schedule.

It's frankly ridiculous for Sakurai to cram four unique movesets into one slot. There's also plenty of BOTW content in Smash Ultimate already, and I don't know what more they could add aside from BOTW2 content.

 

[PSIGuy]

Concerning the 2nd unconfirmed reveal...
The Champions could work if it's like... their ghosts fighting as one and they change form for each attack (ie Daruk attacks for Smashes, Mipha trident for aerials) but that would be incredibly noisy visually.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

So, if it is a double reveal, does this thread just... not reopen? There'll be nothing else to speculate about. Unless people desperately want to discuss the final Mii costumes (I would but I know I ain't everyone)

Let’s see what happens though. They could tease one final bonus fighter and not reveal them yet, there could be a post DLC ballot…

 

[zferolie]

I see people (again!) mentioning Vergeben and leaks, did he leak something specifically related to today, like a new leak? Or are we taking info from an older leak? This thread is hard to keep up with and it's also hard to tell when people are just playing off a joke. I see "The Champions" talk and Master Chief talk. Are these actual predictions and somewhat likely based on leaks?

Supposidly, someone datamined the eshop, and there were 4 things. 2 were scrambled, and 2 others said Metroid 5 and Master Chief. Then Verge said he is coming to smash.

Honestly, Verge could be piggybacking, or what evenb could be happening is that thats for the maste cheif collection and not related to smash at all.

Basically, we have no hard proof, just people assuming

 

[RileyXY1]

If Chief is CP10 I expect CP11 to be a JRPG character and that Lloyd's Mii Fighter costume would come with them, unless it is Lloyd himself.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Ain't that the truth?

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[WahHahaha]

Supposidly, someone datamined the eshop, and there were 4 things. 2 were scrambled, and 2 others said Metroid 5 and Master Chief. Then Verge said he is coming to smash.

Honestly, Verge could be piggybacking, or what evenb could be happening is that thats for the maste cheif collection and not related to smash at all.

Basically, we have no hard proof, just people assuming

Honestly if Master Chief was actually datamined that could mean that he might get released soon after the direct.

 

[Deleted member]

I don’t see the Lloyd Mii returning with Chief if he’s next. I think the last character will be a JRPG dude

and they’ll come with both Lloyd’s Mii and a Crono Mii

That’s right baby more in favor of my son Neku already! I’m getting the best for last!

Gil's costume returned with Steve alongside Travis and Bomberman. The Mii Costumes around Master Chief could also involve an assortment of costumes from different series not entirely exclusive to anything from Microsoft.

On that note, I have a feeling Mii Costumes would be different for the last 2 Challenger Packs in that 1 of them will consist of costumes mostly from their respective publisher like Terry while the other will be an assortment of random costumes like Byleth and BK. Master Chief falls in line with the latter which makes sense if he'd be the last character of the Vol 2, so I'm certainly wondering how this will all play out.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

If Chief is CP10 I expect CP11 to be a JRPG character and that Lloyd's Mii Fighter costume would come with them, unless it is Lloyd himself.

This is how we get another double dip

This time being Square Enix

and yes. This is how Neku Sakuraba from the hit Nintendo DS JRPG The World Ends With You(TM) wins.

please

Gil's costume returned with Steve alongside Travis and Bomberman. The Mii Costumes around Master Chief could also involve an assortment of costumes from different series not entirely exclusive to anything from Microsoft.

On that note, I have a feeling Mii Costumes would be different for the last 2 Challenger Packs in that 1 of them will consist of costumes mostly from their respective publisher like Terry while the other will be an assortment of random costumes like Byleth and BK. Master Chief falls in line with the latter which makes sense if he'd be the last character of the Vol 2, so I'm certainly wondering how this will all play out.

Gil and Steve have the whole spelunking thing in common so I can see why Gil’s costume returned with Steve

this ONLY affects the returning Miis from 4, that’s the pattern I’m gleaning. Any new ones don’t have a set pattern. After all we got Vault Boy with Min Min

 

[JustKindaBoredUKno]

So, if it is a double reveal, does this thread just... not reopen? There'll be nothing else to speculate about. Unless people desperately want to discuss the final Mii costumes (I would but I know I ain't everyone)

I hope it reopens so we can at least see eachother off. This is a mini little community here.

 

[RileyXY1]

Honestly if Master Chief was actually datamined that could mean that he might get released soon after the direct.

I don't think that's happening unless the Sakurai Presents is included as part of the Treehouse or right after their trailer, but that likely means that we're only getting one reveal.

 

[WahHahaha]

I don't think that's happening unless the Sakurai Presents is included as part of the Treehouse or right after their trailer, but that likely means that we're only getting one reveal.

Not really, it just means that one of the reveals is ready to be showcased. The other one would probably release in fall.

 

[RileyXY1]

Not really, it just means that one of the reveals is ready to be showcased. The other one would probably release in fall.

I don't expect CP11 to come out in the fall unless they are revealed in the fall.

 

[Momotsuki]

If Smash ends with a "low note" and CP10 ends up being not only a western character, but also a heavy-hitter...
Considering everything else that's happened I'll be feeling even better about a certain shrine maiden's shot at CP11...
Until I get an explanation for the Hakurei Shrine trademark I'm not losin' hope.

 

[zferolie]

Honestly if Master Chief was actually datamined that could mean that he might get released soon after the direct.

I doubt it would be later today, i think it would be this month though, maybe later this week

Gil's costume returned with Steve alongside Travis and Bomberman. The Mii Costumes around Master Chief could also involve an assortment of costumes from different series not entirely exclusive to anything from Microsoft.

On that note, I have a feeling Mii Costumes would be different for the last 2 Challenger Packs in that 1 of them will consist of costumes mostly from their respective publisher like Terry while the other will be an assortment of random costumes like Byleth and BK. Master Chief falls in line with the latter which makes sense if he'd be the last character of the Vol 2, so I'm certainly wondering how this will all play out.

Yeah lets not read too much into Mii Costumes.

And why are people giving the champions thing any substance. He was just saying he has returned, and payed his dues for being wrong in the past(If his leak is right). Thats all.

 

[WahHahaha]

If Smash ends with a "low note" and CP10 ends up being not only a western character, but also a heavy-hitter...
Considering everything else that's happened I'll be feeling even better about a certain shrine maiden's shot at CP11...

I really don't believe they'll end on a low note after choosing Master Chief of all characters. But we'll see.

 

[Momotsuki]

I really don't believe they'll end on a low note after choosing Master Chief of all characters. But we'll see.

I am referring to Master Chief as not being a low note, as the penultimate but not final fighter.

 

[RileyXY1]

I really don't believe they'll end on a low note after choosing Master Chief of all characters. But we'll see.

They could if they wanted to include a Japan-appeal character to contrast the Western-focused Master Chief.

 

[zferolie]

I really don't believe they'll end on a low note after choosing Master Chief of all characters. But we'll see.

Him for FP10, and I say Reimu for FP11. Fight me. She hits the indie and Japanese market

 

[BernkastelWitch]

So if we go by this leak, is it gonna be a double reveal as everyone says or will it just be one big reveal? It seems to be conflicting even if I potentially know the names here.

 

[WahHahaha]

="TimeSpace, post: 24437737, member: 403579"]
I am referring to Master Chief as not being a low note, as the penultimate but not final fighter.
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I know you're not calling him a low note, I just thought you said CP11 would end on a low note.

So if we go by this leak, is it gonna be a double reveal as everyone says or will it just be one big reveal? It seems to be conflicting even if I potentially know the names here.

I'd say 2 big reveals.

Didn't mean to double post.