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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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ForsakenM

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I don’t think a Pokemon is coming either, but your reasoning seems off. You say we’ve never had pokemon dlc except mewtwo...but we’ve had dlc for only 2 games now so choosing to exclude a pokemon dlc that we did get from such a small sample size seems off. And yes we’ve skipped several pokemon gens, but not ones with release dates so conveniently close to Smash while dlc is on the table.
Sure, DLC for Smash is a more recent thing, but what isn't recent is how Pokemon has been slotted for new game releases consistently and the only outlier is a returning veteran who is the most requested.

And actually, the release date isn't close to Smash at all. Ultimate started early development in late 2015 and dropped late 2018. SwiSh was first announced in mid 2017 which likely means it started development in either late 2016 or early 2017, although there have been cases were games were announced during the early planning stages. It didn't drop until late 2020, almost two years after Ultimate, and would have been in mid-development when Ultimate was in late development, which oddly enough could have been the perfect time to pull a Greninja...but why put in a brand-new Mon for a game that won't be out until almost two years later?

You may be thinking that this is the perfect opportunity for them to get in as DLC, but the Spirit event suggests otherwise, and we can't just say that something which kills chances for RE or Origami King or Astral Chain doesn't kill chances for Pokemon just because 'hurr durr, GameFreak go burr'. This is being inconsistent when the situation is the same, the situation being a franchise getting a Spirit event after the base game. Sure, they COULD be added to a Gen 8 character's Spirit Board, but the only situation thus far is Min Min, and those Spirit were base game. In addition, Byleth was originally supposed to have their presentation in Dec 2019, with the presentation recorded in I believe Nov 2019, and Pass 2 would have already been finalized at this time since it's announcement was part of their presentation. The Gen 8 Spirit event was in Nov 2019, and the chances fall even lower when you add in that it's likely all 11 DLC characters were decided upon early on in 2018 rather than having huge gaps of time between negotiations.

Once again, TPC seems to not like Pokemon DLC outside of Pokemon games, which could be a big factor...but that isn't what is most important here.

Look at the characters we already got so far, and then remember who was PoN during the time of DLC selection. Kimishima wanted to strengthen relationships between companies, and Furukawa grew up a gamer and wants to please fans and let devs have more freedom. We already have one self-promo in Pass 1 and two in Pass 2. Nintendo essentially owns Pokemon, so there is nothing to strengthen here in regards to company relationships, and it could be argued that Furukawa had very little to do with this DLC selection but even so, as a man who tries to cater to fans, remember that Gen 8 is far down the list for requests and will likely die off entirely when it comes to the next Smash game. Furukawa would probably be more likely to push long-term requests or the most popular ones, neither of which are Gen 8.

I do agree with your logic, but I used similar reasoning to argue that Byleth wasn't going to happen and then Nintendo struck me with the "YOU FOOL" stick. I think the chance is small but still realistic.
Only Sith deal in absolutes, and regardless of what some might think of me, I am not a Sith.

However, Byleth is a 'was gonna be base, game got delayed, now am become DLC' where as SwiSh was 'game was slated to come out in 2020 for an elongated period, too far into the future for base game'.
 
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No offense, but anyone saying "Pokemon doesn't need shilling" doesn't understand how the advertising industry works and missing how Pokemon sure got a good number of promotional characters for a series that doesn't need them.
 

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Pokemon doesn't need shilling, that's why Nintendo newcomers are always unprofitable low selling franchises like uhh Codename Steam and Little Town Hero.
 

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Why is that game even being advertised as it is? It’s just another ****ty licensed game, and yet it got its own whole section in the last direct…
WB probably bribed Nintendo into publishing their shovelware garbage and demanded THAT game get its own showcase in a future Direct.

All that does is eat away at time that could be used to showcase other games. Maybe another teaser for BOTW2 to go with the statement about more news later in 2021.
 

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I can't get too upset at DC Super Hero Girls because Nintendo is a business after all and even with licensed silliness like that, it is the kind of thing that helps pay for the kind of games I am interested in. The time it got in the February Direct was a bit much, but then again Nintendo Presentations have been guilty of hit and miss emphasis on certain titles before and its appearance wasn't nearly as eye rolling or ill timed as WWE 2K Battlegrounds was in the Partner Showcase last year.
 

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Everyone seems to be asleep, Time to post more TimeSplitters.

Just wanted to point out something cool. The european box art for the first TimeSplitters has a cluster of characters, Super Smash Bros Ultimate has a cluster of characters.

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Doesn't mean anything but I thought it was pretty cool.
 

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Given that the Ubisoft presentation is today, this is basically leaking a game that'll be shown off within six hours.

Not great for Nintendo, but that necessarily the end of the world either.
 
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Well that confirms this one, I wonder if PracticalBrush12 will be able to get info for the Nintendo Direct or not.
They said they will do something like that for Nintendo.
But to not expect Smash character, since ****'s hard to get info for.
 
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Huh. That weird Rabbid's haircut looks like a Sonic OC's, lol

I really, really hope they didn't ax Yoshi or DK fully. At least give us an expansion with them.
It makes sense that they’re gone but it still stings. DK is obviously very different from the rest of the cast, while Yoshi plays like a weird RNG Mario and that makes it feel like they didn’t know what to do with him tbh. Hoping they figure out what they want to do with Rosalina so she feels less derivative. Kinda crazy that it’s still up on the official Nintendo website though.
 

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I'm starting to subtly get the jitters. It sucks that I have to work during Tuesday but I'll be able to watch the presentation during my break.

I'm still sticking to my guns. One reveal and it'll be Crash.

And for some initial E3 predictions/hopes, I would like to see Metroid Prime trilogy and Xenoblade 3 or a Xenoblade X port be announced.
 

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I would just like to ask if everyone could put leaks (or goof ups) into spoilers from now on. (This includes text, images, and links)

Some people enjoy watching reveals without things leaking beforehand and by posting officially revealed things unmarked, it could potentially spoil their experience.

Thank you, and may the hype be in your favor!

As for me, I can’t watch Nintendo’s Direct live so I’m gonna go into No looking up things from the Direct territory until 5pm est on Tuesday (and only Tuesday). So I will probably be doing something else during my break on that day, likely looking up the TVTropes page for The Scooby Doo Show. But I wish for everyone to be happy and I hope everyone gets what they want!
 

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As for me, I can’t watch Nintendo’s Direct live so I’m gonna go into No looking up things from the Direct territory until 5pm est on Tuesday (and only Tuesday). So I will probably be doing something else during my break on that day, likely looking up the TVTropes page for The Scooby Doo Show. But I wish for everyone to be happy and I hope everyone gets what they want!
which scooby doo show?
 

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I would just like to ask if everyone could put leaks (or goof ups) into spoilers from now on. (This includes text, images, and links)

Some people enjoy watching reveals without things leaking beforehand and by posting officially revealed things unmarked, it could potentially spoil their experience.

Thank you, and may the hype be in your favor!

As for me, I can’t watch Nintendo’s Direct live so I’m gonna go into No looking up things from the Direct territory until 5pm est on Tuesday (and only Tuesday). So I will probably be doing something else during my break on that day, likely looking up the TVTropes page for The Scooby Doo Show. But I wish for everyone to be happy and I hope everyone gets what they want!
I guess this also includes blatantly false “troll” leaks… I guess at this time though this is when leaks get serious so no more joking around

I do want to say however, DO PING ME if any of these happen:
Nintendo E3 Hopes
  • Smash Ultimate Final Video Presentation with a Final Battle themed trailer (Ahri & Octoling)
  • XENOBLADE CHRONICLES X DEFINITIVE EDITION
  • Codename STEAM Port? With support for Roy, Chrom, Corrin and Byleth added… maybe Alm & Celica too cuz it’s Amiibo based
  • Monolith’s new IP
  • The glorious return of F-Zero. Hey, I can dream
  • Super Switch. Yes I know they said only software but didn’t PlayStation and/or Xbox pull something similar?
- teaser of the next Smash which will be an Ultimate sequel?

Square Enix:

  • not asking for much. Just ANYTHING Star Ocean related
  • also pls port Chrono Cross hot take I like it more than Trigger

Capcom:
  • next Phoenix Wright game, or a PLvsPW port
  • Haunting Ground port. One of my favorite survival horror games ever

Bandai Namco:
  • PROJECT. X. ZONE. 3. And/or ports of 1 & 2. Maybe start with the latter to gauge interest
  • a new My Hero Academia fighter made by ArcSys
- Xenosaga HD Trilogy?

Sega:
  • Persona 3 Definitive Edition (combines the female route and QoL changes of Portable with The Answer from FES)
  • Trauma Center/Team ports to Switch and PC
At any rate, do ping me if any of these happen. ESPECIALLY ANYTHING PXZ RELATED.

as for Smash, you can interchange Ahri and Octoling with Reimu, Neku, KOS-MOS… or on the very off chance it happens, Elma or Fiora.
also it’s my birthday today uwu
 
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which scooby doo show?
This one:

Basically I’m going on sites which are unrelated to games in the hopes that I can avoid spoilers from the direct.

Now watch as a Scooby Doo game gets announced during the direct, ruining my plan.
 

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I guess this also includes blatantly false “troll” leaks… I guess at this time though this is when leaks get serious so no more joking around

I do want to say however, DO PING ME if any of these happen:



also it’s my birthday today uwu
Happy birthday!
 

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I want a Smash Bros tactical RPG...


Ideally with every Unit operating completely differently. Like Marth actually being a Fire-Emblem Unit and then when you select Mario he plays just like Mario + Rabbids, and then Pokémon play like Pokémon Conquest, and... you get the idea.
Tactical RPG Smash? Well, we did discuss a hypothetical Project X Zone x Super Smash Bros. game idea yesterday. We also have a Project X Zone 3 discussion thread, which can also include that game idea I mentioned; you might like it:


You'd be especially interested in the (more specific to Smash Bros. x X Zone) roster I came up with in the 3rd page. :)
 

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LOL I wonder how people would react if the next fighter were to be that goth Rabbid instead of Rayman?
I mean, I like Rabbids more than Rayman. I'd take it.

Though I don't want a special Rabbid, just the generic one, due to tons of crazy gadgets and weapons. So it's not perfect.
 
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