Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Technomage]

So...who for E3?

A double reveal, with CP10 as a smaller 3rd-party character (such as Sol Badguy or the Chosen Undead) and CP11 as a first-party promotional character (such as Ayumi Tachibana, King Boo, or a BotW2 character).

 

[GilTheGreat19]

I'm just saying
If I see Rayman in some form at Ubisoft Forward on the 12th, and he's got a new game coming to the Switch, I will keep a lookout for him at Nintendo's E3 direct.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

I'm going for Crono and Porky. But don't know who for E3.

 

[Gengar84]

So...who for E3?

It could be anyone but the only character I’m really confident in is Dixie Kong. We have barely any Tropical Freeze or DKC3 content and there ar rumors of a new DK game.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

A 1st party like Dixie, Octoling or a BotW character is also something worth keeping an eye on next week.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Although I don't really want him/her, Octoling makes sense.

Through each Smash game, Nintendo does a great job at representing first party material that's concurrently relevant and popular.

For Ultimate, the Switch era, we got adequate content from ARMS, XC2, BOTW and Mario Odyssey.
We ARE lacking a bit in Splatoon 2 content, though... :/

 

[DarthEnderX]

So...who for E3?

Hayabusa, then someone else I don't care about.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Ayumi Tachibana and King Boo are other two 1st parties to keep an eye on with the formers game getting a remake and Luigi's Mansion surprisingly having no Spirit Event.

 

[Dukefire]

There is a video made by a Youtuber named Midnight. He made this video saying Doom Slayer is possible based on Nintendo's Legal team.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Hasn't Doom Slayer been deconfirmed for a while now?

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

I'm going for Crono and Porky. But don't know who for E3.

Dude, far out. I could dig Crono and Porky. Crono particularly because more Akira Toriyama characters = more good. Wouldn't that just be the slam if Square Enix, the supposedly stingy one, turned out to be the one that engaged in a double dip?

 

[Dukefire]

Hasn't Doom Slayer been deconfirmed for a while now?

I think so, but anything is still possible.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

King Boo could happen too.
Luigi tried to fight Castlevania enemies.
Imagine Simon and Richter trying to fight Luigi's Mansion Ghosts.

 

[Perkilator]

So...who for E3?

Hopefully Crash for CP10. I'll take a double reveal for CP10 and 11 if it happens (especially if Sora is 11).

 

[Michael the Spikester]

King Boo could happen too.
Luigi tried to fight Castlevania enemies.
Imagine Simon and Richter trying to fight Luigi's Mansion Ghosts.

King Boo also fits for a trailer continuation of Simon's/Richter's.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

King Boo also fits for a trailer continuation of Simon's/Richter's.

Lol that's why I made that comment in the first place


Also, I saw someone on YT lay out a nice idea
Our last two fighters could be a frontrunner and a curveball

 

[Eldrake]

There is a video made by a Youtuber named Midnight. He made this video saying Doom Slayer is possible based on Nintendo's Legal team.

Figures that as soon as someone deletes their own video that happens to involve Doomguy in some form, the clickbait videos stream in.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

At this rate I'm not even expecting Doom Slayer, he had his best chance at last years VGA when the timing seemed right.

Hell I would say Dovahkiin has a bigger chance at this point.

 

[Ivander]

King Boo could happen too.
Luigi tried to fight Castlevania enemies.
Imagine Simon and Richter trying to fight Luigi's Mansion Ghosts.

Or how about Luigi goes on to the next step after Castlevania? The land of Lordran.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Ladies and gentlemen
boys and girls

I have a based idea

 

[Dukefire]

Again, the storm is at the point where control is difficult to maintain. We will have to prep and ride out the storm.

That and possibly avoid fuel by evading videos until on Tuesday in 6 days.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Or how about Luigi goes on to the next step after Castlevania? The land of Lordran.

I would think Nemesis from Resident Evil
but Artorias works too

 

[RileyXY1]

As for E3, as everyone knows I only expect one reveal, with CP11 not being revealed until the fall.

 

[Banado_Boy]

So...who for E3?

So for our past E3 showings for Ultimate, we’ve had:
E3 2018: “Everyone is Here!”, Daisy, Ridley
E3 2019: Hero, Banjo & Kazooie
E3 2020: N/A, but the reveal could have potentially been Min Min alone, Min Min + Steve, or Steve alone if we still had a show that year

For 2021, I dunno. I think we’ll at least see someone that’s familiar to the majority of Nintendo/Smash fans though, based on past precedent.

Waluigi, a Sonic character, Crash, Dante, Lloyd, Hayabusa, and Jonesy are some characters that come to mind (lots of commonly speculated characters, lol). Would love something more low key though, like Laharl, or something thought to be impossible, like Miku.

 

[SNEKeater]

None of them have the quirk where the opponent's momentarily set on fire and release fire particles, right? They're classified more as projectile strikes.


I'm not super-familiar with GG, but would Sol be the only one on that list to fit Terry's description, or does Sol actively ignite his foes?

One of Sol's special attacks is literally called Gunflame, which is his projectile.

And his other specials usually involve fire as well. He's definitely linked to fire. So if the tournament thing does really disconfirm characters that use fire in their special moves, Sol would be out, yeah. If that's really the case...

That sucks. Sol isn't pleased.

Going back to my Smash iconic/recognizability post. There is another IP that is very recognizable but there isn't necessarily a video game character that would be well known and that is Resident Evil.

Alice (who has never appeared in video games) is probably recognizable to a lot of people. Heck the Resident Evil movies might be more well known than the games. Jill Valentine does have some name recognition.

Although Lady Dimitrescu might be the best pick right now. She is stinking everywhere in the internet meme world (although the joke is that the Samsung Girl is replacing her).

Lady Dimitrescu wasn't even known to the public when they finalized plans on Fighter Pass 2 (RE8 was announced the last summer). And even if that was the case they would pick her, considering that her popularity took Capcom by surprise, so it's not like they would be pushing for her if Nintendo approached them for DLC.

If we get a RE character it won't be anything from the movies (thank god, I must say). The character would be either Leon, Chris or Jill, for sure. But it's not going to happen considering the spirit event Resident Evil got. For the next Smash game? It's a possibility, and I truly hope we get a RE character someday.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Wait...
Haven't E3 characters mainly been frontrunners?

Back when we know about "Smash Switch", I'm sure Daisy and Ridley were talked about a lot
Before E3 2019, after Joker, Hero (since leaked) and Banjo were frequently on people's minds. Note outside of leaks they both have just been wanted for years.

So maybe this year, we might just get frontrunners as our characters, once again.
Who knows.

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Waluigi, a Sonic character, are some characters that come to mind (lots of commonly speculated characters, lol). Would love something more low key though, like Laharl, or something thought to be impossible, like Miku.

Shadow and Waluigi my duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

Low key character pick for me, in a world where I get what I want and nobody can stop me: Gimme one of the girls from Seifuku Densetsu Pretty Fighter haha Jyuri, Marin, Ai, Keiko, Kris, any of em haha people will have NO IDEA who they're on about and we'll go "Well, Nintendo and Imagineer are having a good time with Fitness Boxing so they reached into the back catalogue"

ACTUALLY... one of the boxer girls from Fitness Boxing would be nice too hehehehehehe myarrrrrrrrrr people will still be like "Huh?" but I'll be like "yeah yeah yeah yeah more more more more"

 

[Perkilator]

Lady Dimitrescu wasn't even known to the public when they finalized plans on Fighter Pass 2. And even if that was the case they would pick her, considering that her popularity took Capcom by surprise, so it's not like they would be pushing for her if Nintendo approached them for DLC.

If we get a RE character it won't be anything from the movies (thank god, I must say). The character would be either Leon, Chris or Jill, for sure. But it's not going to happen considering the spirit event Resident Evil got. For the next Smash game? It's a possibility, and I truly hope we get a RE character someday.

Broke: Lady Dimitrescu in Smash

Woke: Lady Dimitrescu in Marvel vs. Capcom

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Lady Dimitrescu in Marvel vs. Capcom

That... puking slime swamp monster thing whose mommy doesn't love him anymore vs GIANT SIZE MAN-THING

 

[Gengar84]

Alright, so I have Pass 10 locked in as Dixie Kong but my other prediction (Scorpion) looks like it’s out due to the fire tournament so I’m going to go with someone even crazier.

I think there is actually a non-zero chance that Goku could be the final DLC character. He’s been requested for ages and would really end the game off with a bang. I think Goku can only ever happen as the very last Smash character. I have a feeling this might end up being the last Smash and this would be the last character. If there are no more characters left, Sakurai wouldn’t have to worry about everyone requesting other non game characters.

 

[Ivander]

Woke: Lady Dimitrescu in Marvel vs. Capcom

Personally I prefer Heisenberg as I think his pseudo-Magneto powers with scrap metal with his hammer and his scrap metal monsters would be cooler for a Vs. Capcom game. And his battle in RE8 was awesome.

But seriously Capcom, give the people who made the RE7 and RE8 villains to some of your other series. They make some very memorable villains and your other series could use them.

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Alright, so I have Pass 10 locked in as Dixie Kong but my other prediction (Scorpion) looks like it’s out due to the fire tournament so I’m going to go with someone even crazier.

I think there is actually a non-zero chance that Goku could be the final DLC character. He’s been requested for ages and would really end the game off with a bang. I think Goku can only ever happen as the very last Smash character. I have a feeling this might end up being the last Smash and this would be the last character. If there are no more characters left, Sakurai wouldn’t have to worry about everyone requesting other non game characters.

Have Tapion be a spirit where you fight Link just to make it all come full circle haha

I would love Goku in Smash, but I of course say that as a raging Dragon Ball fan who imported the Romantic Ageru Yo/Makafushigi Adventure 45 record from Japan so I MIGHT BE A BIT BIASED. Having the late Shunsuke Kikuchi's music in Smash would also be really fun too.

The only thing I wouldn't necessarily love tho is that as soon as Goku happens, then choices like Spongebob and Shrek and all these other meme choices suddenly become legitimate discussions instead of just jokes.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

I think there is actually a non-zero chance that Goku could be the final DLC character. He’s been requested for ages and would really end the game off with a bang. I think Goku can only ever happen as the very last Smash character. I have a feeling this might end up being the last Smash and this would be the last character. If there are no more characters left, Sakurai wouldn’t have to worry about everyone requesting other non game characters.

I can only imagine the reactions....

 

[Technomage]

Alright, so I have Pass 10 locked in as Dixie Kong but my other prediction (Scorpion) looks like it’s out due to the fire tournament so I’m going to go with someone even crazier.

I think there is actually a non-zero chance that Goku could be the final DLC character. He’s been requested for ages and would really end the game off with a bang. I think Goku can only ever happen as the very last Smash character. I have a feeling this might end up being the last Smash and this would be the last character. If there are no more characters left, Sakurai wouldn’t have to worry about everyone requesting other non game characters.

Maybe not for Ultimate, but they'd probably still be requested for future Smash games, opening up chaotic floodgates for them.

 

[2006ToyotaTacoma]

So if the tournament thing does really disconfirm characters that use fire in their special moves, Sol would be out, yeah. If that's really the case...

If we took it as a solid disconfirm for characters that would most likely just have one fire move in their moveset, that would kill off a lot of characters wouldn't it?

From the top of my head:
Cinderace (Fire pokemon)
Scorpion (Fire Ninja)
Sol Badguy (Gunflame)
Lloyd Irving (Blazing Tempest)
Amaterasu (Inferno)
Doomguy (Flame Belch)
Chosen Undead (maybe?)
Chun Li (also maybe? the tourney also lists Ganondorf so it's really stretching the definition of fire)

 

[Eldrake]

To represent the faceless and headless protagonists that is surprisingly more common in first person video games than most people might realize, Ethan Winters will make his debut as the Resident Evil rep.

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

For real tho... YR if one of the final two characters, against all odds, actually is one of the Fitness Boxing girls hahahaha woooooooooooooooooo

 

[Gengar84]

Maybe not for Ultimate, but they'd probably still be requested for future Smash games, opening up chaotic floodgates for them.

My thinking is if this is not the last Smash game, whatever comes next will likely be hugely scaled back and may even go back to just being first party again. Sakurai said this is probably the last time we will ever have so many characters.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

A compromise between "ultra-omega hype reveal since it's e3" and "lame o fe shill pick finale" since we have to consider this is E3, but it's also a late reveal.

So Isaac and Bandana Dee confirmed?

At least that stupid JRPG vs platformer debate can finally rest for now.

Cinderace (Fire pokemon)

But a Gen 8 Pokemon was already disconfirmed since November 2019.

 

[SharkLord]

To be fair

Most of the people in the fandom probably don't even know who Reimu is


People who become Touhou fans rarely ever play the games.

As the resident Touhou guy around here, I can attest that music makes up 90% of Touhou for me (Granted, that goes for just about everything with me).

Basically, fans tend to look up videos of the games. All the top-reaching videos are of the hardest difficulties, so we get stuff like this out of the search bar

These video will either break you completely or leave you spending and unhealthy amount of time trying to discover the secrets of Ultra Instinct needed to play these games, only to give up and just stick with Bad Apple and Flandre's music extentions.

And that, kids, is why 99% of everyone haven't actually played the Touhou games.