Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Momotsuki]

Visual novel representation? You know the deal.

 

[Technomage]

Yeah is it bad?

I don't really care either way; just wanted to decipher it.

I know someone else said they’d prefer Kasumi get in, that’s not indicative of her chances either way

Ah, so Kasumi's still safe? Cool.

Visual novel representation? You know the deal.

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Speaking of visual novels, I had an idea where Monika from Doki Doki Literature Club could have a trailer similar to the ones that Hero and Sephiroth got, but with her crushing both Galeem and Dharkon, and then taking their place as the big bad (complete with a World of Light expansion). It makes sense, due to her practically being a god in her game.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Fr

Am I the only person here who remembers Trauma Center/Team...

Don't worry there's two of us at least. Also Flyboy I think

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Visual novel representation? You know the deal.

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Phoenix Wright, with echo fighter Miles Edgeworth.

Phoenix Wrong is good at defense (since he's a defense attorney) while Miles Edgelord is more proficient with offense since he's a prosecutor

Ah, so Kasumi's still safe? Cool.

Kasumi's still kickin, methinks.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Visual novel representation? You know the deal.

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Oh god oh **** I'm gonna be taken home aren't I?


Sidenote, I wonder how likely a When They Cry character is considering it's getting back to it's old levels of popularity by word of mouth and the new anime

 

[SpectreJordan]

Do y'all think we'll get at least one more JRPG character?

I think there’s a decent chance; it’s such a massive & popular genre that there’s tons of choices there. Tales is still MIA & could show up as a fighter. Pokemon is always a possibility as well.

We could also see someone who’s technically JRPG but not really like 2B; Nier’s classified as a JRPG but it’s more of an action game IMO. But it would still count I guess lol

 

[Technomage]

Kasumi's still kickin, methinks.
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I'm curious about something: Why did Koei give Kasumi a full-body suit as her new default outfit? Were they hoping it could increase her chances of appearing in Smash's roster?

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

I'm curious about something: Why did Koei give Kasumi a full-body suit as her new default outfit? Were they hoping it could increase her chances of appearing in Smash's roster?

Naw.

I THINK the whole deal with DOA6 was they were chasin eSports/broadcaster satiation or whatever until that blew straight up in their faces. Then they abused the bananas out of DLC with 4 Season Passes, each of which costing 100 dollars.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Naw.

I THINK the whole deal with DOA6 was they were chasin eSports/broadcaster satiation or whatever until that blew straight up in their faces. Then they abused the bananas out of DLC with 4 Season Passes, each of which costing 100 dollars.

$100

for ONE FIGHTER PASS?!

Koei Tecmo what the actual ****

 

[ahemtoday]

$100

for ONE FIGHTER PASS?!

Koei Tecmo what the actual ****

I think they weren't fighter passes, though. They were, like, costumes.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

$100

for ONE FIGHTER PASS?!

Koei Tecmo what the actual ****

Haha, she thinks the DoA pass' main appeal is the fighters included, cute

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I think they weren't fighter passes, though. They were, like, costumes.

...how many costumes?

 

[ahemtoday]

...how many costumes?

Um, Google gave me 72?

 

[cashregister9]

$100

for ONE FIGHTER PASS?!

Koei Tecmo what the actual ****

Remember It can always be worse

 

[osby]

...how many costumes?

For female characters? A lot.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Remember It can always be worse

I remember when TS and its DLC combined was only $1K

imma bet it’ll reach $1M worth before the end of the decade

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

$100

for ONE FIGHTER PASS?!

Koei Tecmo what the actual ****

Well there were four season passes, so it actually rang up to $400 for the whole shebang

But you got some characters, but it was mostly costumes. The DLC fighters for DOA6 are: Phase 4 (which might as well just be Kasumi), Nyotengu, Rachel, Mai Shiranui (for bad boys and girls), Kula Diamond and Tamaki. All but Tamaki and Kula were already characters in DOA5LR so people weren't super happy about that.

And costumes. Many of which were ALSO from DOA5LR or similar to them.

DOA5LR also went ridiculous with its DLC. Like, over a thousand dollars once all the costumes were added up I believe.

People need to talk to Koei Tecmo about DLC, and not exclusively about Smash Bros.

 

[CureParfait]

Fr

Am I the only person here who remembers Trauma Center/Team...

So like Riot?

I remember Trauma Team/Center well enough I wish it was in Smash of some form.

 

[Technomage]

New idea I got: If Kasumi were to be playable in Smash, should she utilize some of the weapons Hayabusa used in the NES NG games (such as shuriken) in her moveset, or would that be too insulting for him?

 

[Garteam]

He only said “Koei Tecmo and Nintendo were in talks”. Could be for literally anything

Those "talks" could've been for basically any Koei Tecmo involvement with Nintendo's endeavors. Age of Calamity, Ninja Gaiden Sigma Trilogy, 3 Houses, etc.

Even we assume the talks between Nintendo and Koei Tecmo were 100% for Smash, those could have just been over Byleth's reveal trailer, seeing how Koei Tecmo had a hand in writing the dialogue for it.

 

[chocolatejr9]

In other news, BrawlFan1 just played 4D Chess with us.

 

[ahemtoday]

New idea I got: If Kasumi were to be playable in Smash, should she utilize some of the weapons Hayabusa used in the NES NG games (such as shuriken) in her moveset, or would that be too insulting for him?

I... don't see the reasoning behind doing this.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

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[Gnateb]

Even we assume the talks between Nintendo and Koei Tecmo were 100% for Smash, those could have just been over Byleth's reveal trailer, seeing how Koei Tecmo had a hand in writing the dialogue for it.

And/or the spirit events

 

[Technomage]

I... don't see the reasoning behind doing this.

Well, the reasoning would be to rep Ninja Gaiden, as well as the kind of moveset Hayabusa could have gotten if he weren't deconfirmed.

 

[Ivander]

That doesn't help at all holy ****, no offence but that may be even more toxic to fight than 2 Min Mins without friendly fire

I mean, Wii Fit Trainer has healing moves and they aren't too bad.

I think for a character with a genuine healing move, that move would have to be limited like Banjo-Kazooie's Wonderwing. Like look at the Chosen Undead. Estus flasks are meant to be limited and they also make you vulnerable while trying to heal. So if you made it like 3 Estus Flasks, a healing percentage of around 20-30% and a 2 second casting window before the heal activates and a 1-2 second vulnerable period after the heal, that shouldn't be too bad.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Ok so

what are y’all’s non-Smash predictions for E3?

ill do mine, more focused on Nintendo than others

Xbox:
Uhhhh Tales of Arise? Idk what else

Sony:
FFVIIR Integrade and/or Part 2
again idk what else I forgot they’re not there this year

Nintendo:
CP10 and possibly CP11. IF they announced more DLC or even an Ultimate Encore it would be here as well
More Splatoon 3 info
BOTW2 at last
Bayonetta 3 at last
Something Mario related
Something Kirby related
The triumphant return of F-Zero... I WISH at least
FE4 remake?
More D/P remake info as well as Legends and Unite
N64 and/or GC NSO
XENOBLADE CHRONICLES X DEFINITIVE EDITION PLEASE I BEG YOU NINTENDO AND MONOLITH
PROJECT X ZONE 3/A PXZ SUCCESSOR WITH MORE SMASH-APPEARING CHARACTERS I ALSO PLEAD OF YOU NAMCO AND MONOLITH
and last but certainly not least... THE SUPER SWITCH BABY NO I AM STILL NOT CALLING IT SWITCH “PRO”

...and still no Metroid Prime 4, bye

 

[Arcadenik]

Let’s have a bit of fun.
Name 5 assist trophies and 2 pokeballs you would want upgrade to playable and why.

Isaac
Krystal
Lyn
Takamaru
Waluigi

Gardevoir
Meowth

Sure feels like I’m back in the Brawl era again. They should have gotten in Smash a long time ago.

 

[DarthEnderX]

But didn't Yasuda say " We’re waiting for our invite "? The wording tells me that it's Koei waiting for the invite, which practically says that Ryu Hayabusa and other Koei characters aren't gonna be in the roster.

Nah. He's a game dev that doesn't decide those things, saying he doesn't know of him being in.

If he's deconfirmed, then so is Crash, whose developer said functionally the same thing.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I mean, Wii Fit Trainer has healing moves and they aren't too bad.

I think for a character with a genuine healing move, that move would have to be limited like Banjo-Kazooie's Wonderwing. Like look at the Chosen Undead. Estus flasks are meant to be limited and they also make you vulnerable while trying to heal. So if you made it like 3 Estus Flasks, a healing percentage of around 20-30% and a 2 second casting window before the heal activates and a 1-2 second vulnerable period after the heal, that shouldn't be too bad.

WFT heals a smidge of health and has so much time in between Deep Breathing and Sun Salutation that it flatout isn't possible to sit back and heal, the idea suggested is a very defensive character who has reliable access to healing.

 

[Deleted member]

Do you think Ultimate will add at least one character from a genre with no playable representation yet?

What genres are left? Serious question; I can't think of more than a couple since a lot of genres are covered by Mario alone (Kart, Party, Golf, Baseball, etc). Yeah there are others that do them (Gran Tourismo, Crash Team racing, Madden) but 2 of those are too realistic (no real characters per se) and the other was a clone of Mario Kart (granted, its pretty much the only good clone, but a clone nonetheless).

Puzzle-Platformer? Whatever Hatsune Miku counts as (singing software?) Bullet Hell?

 

[Gnateb]

shrug He's a game dev that doesn't decide those things, saying he doesn't know of him being in.

If he's deconfirmed, then so is Crash, whose developer said functionally the same thing.

If he really had no clue, why would Yasuda opt to outright say "it's not happening" though?

 

[ahemtoday]

Well, the reasoning would be to rep Ninja Gaiden, as well as the kind of moveset Hayabusa could have gotten if he weren't deconfirmed.

Why would Kasumi rep Ninja Gaiden? Especially why would she rep the earlier Ninja Gaiden games that she wasn't even in because she didn't exist yet?

 

[Deleted member]

If he really had no clue, why would Yasuda opt to outright say "it's not happening" though?

People believe for the same reason people refused to let go of the Grinch Leak when every singer prominent leaker at the time called it out as fake before it was proven: Some people refuse to give up no matter what is said.

 

[Fluttershy64]

What genres are left? Serious question; I can't think of more than a couple since a lot of genres are covered by Mario alone (Kart, Party, Golf, Baseball, etc). Yeah there are others that do them (Gran Tourismo, Crash Team racing, Madden) but 2 of those are too realistic (no real characters per se) and the other was a clone of Mario Kart (granted, its pretty much the only good clone, but a clone nonetheless).

Puzzle-Platformer? Whatever Hatsune Miku counts as (singing software?) Bullet Hell?

We don't have a rep from a FPS or a Visual Novel .

 

[chocolatejr9]

Ok so

what are y’all’s non-Smash predictions for E3?

ill do mine, more focused on Nintendo than others

Xbox:
Uhhhh Tales of Arise? Idk what else

Sony:
FFVIIR Integrade and/or Part 2
again idk what else

Nintendo:
CP10 and possibly CP11. IF they announced more DLC or even an Ultimate Encore it would be here as well
More Splatoon 3 info
BOTW2 at last
Bayonetta 3 at last
Something Mario related
Something Kirby related
The triumphant return of F-Zero... I WISH at least
FE4 remake?
More D/P remake info as well as Legends and Unite
N64 and/or GC NSO
XENOBLADE CHRONICLES X DEFINITIVE EDITION PLEASE I BEG YOU NINTENDO AND MONOLITH
PROJECT X ZONE 3/A PXZ SUCCESSOR WITH MORE SMASH-APPEARING CHARACTERS I ALSO PLEAD OF YOU NAMCO AND MONOLITH
and last but certainly not least... THE SUPER SWITCH BABY NO I AM STILL NOT CALLING IT SWITCH “PRO”

Correction: Sony won't be there this year.

As for my predictions:

• Xbox - this is partially a joke, but if the rumors turn out to be true, I could see them announcing their next acquisition here. Problem is, I don't know who...
• Square Enix - maybe some more NES/SNES games getting remakes/remasters? That seems to be something they like doing now.
• Nintendo - a bunch of stuff that people won't like because it's not insert dead IP here. Though I suppose they could announce stuff like whatever Next Level Games's first title under Nintendo's ownership is (new Punch-Out or StarTropics maybe).

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Oh oops yeah Sony’s not there I forgot

and for Nintendo, I will bet that Metroid Prime 4 will STILL be absent

 

[Deleted member]

We don't have a rep from a FPS or a Visual Novel .

Forgot to include FPS, I knew we didn't have that one repped...not in its most recognized form anyway.

 

[Laniv]

I regret to inform you all that we have suffered a great loss today:

pic.twitter.com/i3HZHvsVXz

— Will (PushDustIn) (@PushDustIn) May 21, 2021

Nintendo has chosen to retire Kinopio-kun. May he forever be remembered for his effective promotional skills...

Plot twist: this is how he gets into Smash Bros

 

[chocolatejr9]

Plot twist: this is how he gets into Smash Bros

You joke, but whenever Kinopio-kun was promoting a game, they always had to specify that he wasn't ACTUALLY in the game. If he gets added to Smash, then they can finally say "yes, Kinopio-kun is in the game".