Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[True Blue Warrior]

Both she and Pyra use the models from their origin games as a base, but they're heavily modified, mainly so their textures can take up less memory.

Where is the evidence for this?

 

[Guynamednelson]

Where is the evidence for this?

It's one single texture, but it's arranged in the exact same way on both her Smash and XC2 models.

 

[PeridotGX]

I don't see why it's a big deal if they re-used models. It's not like they don't look right, the fact that we're even debating it proves they do, it just saves time.

 

[Guynamednelson]

I don't see why it's a big deal if they re-used models.

I mean, I don't care that they reused models either, I was just showing a hint that they did to someone they quoted me.

 

[TwiceEXE]

What is even a hivemind?

It means you don't believe Geno is making it into Smash Ultimate.

 

[Gengar84]

It means you don't believe Geno is making it into Smash Ultimate.

Well I guess I’m officially part of the hivemind. We require more vespian gas!

 

[Guynamednelson]

It means you don't believe Geno is making it into Smash Ultimate.

I wonder how linked up to the hivemind I am for thinking Isaac still has a chance but not Geno?

 

[chocolatejr9]

It means you don't believe Geno is making it into Smash Ultimate.

So basically, people who have made it to the Acceptance phase?

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

So basically, people who have made it to the Acceptance phase?

Yep, people who have come to see reality.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Ironically the one potential character for Smash that won’t get you accused as being part of the hive mind if you support them?




Buck Bumble.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

The real hivemind is the people still believing Scrimbo Blimbo, the Lovable Scrunko has a chance.

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[Peripuff]

I wonder how linked up to the hivemind I am for thinking Isaac still has a chance but not Geno?

The only criterium is Geno, so I’d say completely 100% linked up

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Even after all the evidence, proof, and DECONFIRMATION people still legit thinks Geno has a shot? Jesus Christ people it's time to let go! Geno is dead in the water.

 

[Guynamednelson]

The only criterium is Geno, so I’d say completely 100% linked up

Oh good, I'm still qualified to exchange my Hivemind Points for a free large fry with a Coke.

...maybe I'll try to save a little more so I can get a free double cheeseburger instead.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

The virgin Geno vs. the chad Neku

fr, of all the Square Enix reps not yet in Smash I wish we’d discuss Neku more, he’s from an SE original IP born on a Nintendo system

 

[Evil Trapezium]

The virgin Geno vs. the chad Neku

fr, of all the Square Enix reps not yet in Smash I wish we’d discuss Neku more, he’s from an SE original IP born on a Nintendo system

Gameplay wise, I think Neku Sakabura would be unique and pretty cool with his psychic abilities. He kind of looks like Gary Oak,

 

[Eldrake]

It's almost six months after the Sephiroth presentation, and there's people who still think Geno has a shot this pass?

I resume hibernation.

 

[Gengar84]

The virgin Geno vs. the chad Neku

fr, of all the Square Enix reps not yet in Smash I wish we’d discuss Neku more, he’s from an SE original IP born on a Nintendo system

Neku seems pretty cool. I haven’t really had the chance to try out The World Ends with You but I’ve heard great things about it. I totally feel you on wishing your most wanted characters would be discussed more. My personal most wanted Square-Enix character is Magus from Chrono Trigger and he (and even Chrono Trigger as a whole) is discussed even less than Neku.

 

[Paraster]

The virgin Geno vs. the chad Neku

fr, of all the Square Enix reps not yet in Smash I wish we’d discuss Neku more, he’s from an SE original IP born on a Nintendo system

I've been working on a Neku moveset on and off for AGES, and I can never decide how to incorporate the partner system. My current version is that he switches his partners with down special and each partner powers up specific attacks (smash attacks for Shiki, throws for Joshua, and tilts for Beat), but I've never been 100% comfortable with this. Sometimes I wonder if leaving the partner mechanic out altogether would turn out better.

 

[Commander_Alph]

Don't know this news is worth discussing or not but here

Koei Tecmo president Hisashi Koinuma has said he would like to make a Dynasty Warriors style game featuring characters from the Mario universehttps://t.co/2bAju8Iu2B pic.twitter.com/IX8mB2MZxN

— VGC (@VGC_News) May 13, 2021

Would be cool if this were real and of course increase the viability of Dynasty Warriors being repped.

 

[Mamboo07]

The real hivemind is the people still believing Scrimbo Blimbo, the Lovable Scrunko has a chance.

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Scrimbo Blimbo? That's a weird way to say Crash Bandicoot.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

The virgin Geno vs. the chad Neku

fr, of all the Square Enix reps not yet in Smash I wish we’d discuss Neku more, he’s from an SE original IP born on a Nintendo system

While my boy sora is just sitting back watching people fight who, not that it matters, also has several nintendo games

 

[Gengar84]

Don't know this news is worth discussing or not but here

Koei Tecmo president Hisashi Koinuma has said he would like to make a Dynasty Warriors style game featuring characters from the Mario universehttps://t.co/2bAju8Iu2B pic.twitter.com/IX8mB2MZxN

— VGC (@VGC_News) May 13, 2021

Would be cool if this were real and of course increase the viability of Dynasty Warriors being repped.

I would buy any Warriors spin-off of a Nintendo franchise but Mario seems like a strange fit. It would probably still be a lot of fun though and would really stand out from other Warriors games with its cartoonish characters. I would love to see a Pokémon Warriors based on one of the ancient wars in the backstories such as the one with AZ in X and Y. I’d also love a Dynasty Warriors character in Smash. I think Lu Bu is a much more interesting character than Zhao Yun but I’d take either.

 

[Garteam]

The real hivemind is the people still believing Scrimbo Blimbo, the Lovable Scrunko has a chance.

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Every fan of JRPGBoy #347 is going to be eternally BTFO when Evil Van Jerkhead, the eternal villain of the Scrimbo Blimbo series, appears in the opening shots of another Donkey Kong-themed newcomer trailer.

 

[7NATOR]

Well since Someone brought Geno up, what characters do you guys personally think are unlikely to be in FP2, and why?

And before someone says it, NO this is not a hating question, and we can discuss why we feel characters are unlikely without causing a scene

 

[Guynamednelson]

Well since Someone brought Geno up, what characters do you guys personally think are unlikely to be in FP2, and why?

And before someone says it, NO this is not a hating question, and we can discuss why we feel characters are unlikely without causing a scene

I think I've said something along the line of "Someone along the lines of Steviroth this late into the pass due to the typical decline Smash character reveals have" too much.

 

[Commander_Alph]

Well since Someone brought Geno up, what characters do you guys personally think are unlikely to be in FP2, and why?

And before someone says it, NO this is not a hating question, and we can discuss why we feel characters are unlikely without causing a scene

Basically any LEVEL-5 rep or in Smash terminology Professor Layton. Their closing of the NA branch is a big hit which is sad considering they're very close during their DS and 3DS era with Nintendo.

 

[Gengar84]

Well since Someone brought Geno up, what characters do you guys personally think are unlikely to be in FP2, and why?

And before someone says it, NO this is not a hating question, and we can discuss why we feel characters are unlikely without causing a scene

I’m starting to doubt Zegram Ghart’s chances. Rogue Galaxy is a hugely iconic and legendary game but it is true that it has never been on a Nintendo console. Even if the game did get a character, it would likely end up being Jaster Rogue instead. It’s a shame because Zegram seems like such an obvious glaring omission in the roster.

Just kidding but Zegram is my favorite video game character and would be hyped as hell if he somehow ever made it.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Are you happy with the way the Links have been implemented in this game?

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Well since Someone brought Geno up, what characters do you guys personally think are unlikely to be in FP2, and why?

And before someone says it, NO this is not a hating question, and we can discuss why we feel characters are unlikely without causing a scene

Master Chief
Reimu
Rayman
Waluigi
Ayumi Tachibana
Any Namco rep

Are you happy with the way the Links have been implemented in this game?

I'm happy to get Young Link back.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Well since Someone brought Geno up, what characters do you guys personally think are unlikely to be in FP2, and why?

And before someone says it, NO this is not a hating question, and we can discuss why we feel characters are unlikely without causing a scene

Not counting blatantly deconfirmed characters like Rex & Hayabusa:

• Elma. It’ll be a miracle if she happens after Pythra, and trust me I’d be celebrating. After all Elma is from a different installment than Pythra, but I feel she’d need some kind of “caveat” like having the X symbol for her series instead of the Monado. Idk. Unless she’s the rumored bonus individual DLC.
• Lloyd. Me feeling his Mii Costume is certain to return aside, Symphonia hasn’t been ported to Switch yet (and if it is it’ll likely be the (ew) Steam version).
• Neku. I mean sure, he could be an easy double dip after negotiations for Sephiroth wrapped up, but how would Sakurai handle the mechanics? Would he just give Neku random pin psychs and call it a day, or would a partner mechanic be used?
• A Soul Calibur character. (Nightmare fans are gonna hate me for this probably) but SC is a 3D fighter much like Tekken. If Sakurai couldn’t implement Heihachi due to the complexity of the Z-axis movements surely the same would apply to a SC character?
• Frick it ANY Namco rep in general. They seem to think it’d be nepotism to include another character after and I say this as someone who WANTS both KOS-MOS and T-elos.
• Dante. With how much of a show stealer he is you’d think he’d have been revealed much earlier, even for base.
• Sol Badguy. Idk I’m just,,, not feeling him for some reason
• Master Chief. Sure, Halo’s a BIT more popular in Japan than Doom but... not by much. Surprisingly, Apex Legends is the most popular western FPS in Japan, so if we get a FPS rep I have a feeling it’ll be an Apex champion.
• Rayman. Idk what else to say here but I also am not confident in him
• Arle. Yeah she dodged the Spirit Event bullet for PPT2 but I also think she’d have happened by now
• Another Pokémon, Gen 8 or no. They always felt like base roster picks to me

And the kicker? I actually WANT some of these characters. Not all. But some.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Are you happy with the way the Links have been implemented in this game?

Since Young Link's purpose is to be the game's traditional Link while Fighter no. 3 gets his moveset tweaked to match BotW, I wish they did a bit more with Toon Link. The forward smash is a start, but I'd prefer smash attacks involving the Skull Hammer as they'd be more obvious WW references.

 

[Garteam]

Well since Someone brought Geno up, what characters do you guys personally think are unlikely to be in FP2, and why?

And before someone says it, NO this is not a hating question, and we can discuss why we feel characters are unlikely without causing a scene

Not a specific character, but I've kind of accepted that a Capcom character probably isn't happening this pass. I get that part of the reason Pyra/Mythra exclusively had Capcom costumes was to promote Ghost n' Goblins Ressurection and Monster Hunter Rise, but the fact those had to be stapled to an unrelated character makes me think Capcom really isn't getting much beyond that. This is further emphasized by the fact that Smash for Wii U/3DS' Mega Man costumes were distributed in the miscellaneous waves of and .

I suppose Capcom could have at least 4 more costumes that come with a Capcom character, but that's a lot of costumes for one company. Capcom is known for being very easy to work with, but I can't see Sakurai giving that much love to one studio when it could otherwise be used elsewhere. Square's the only company that comes close to the number of costumes that Capcom would receive if this is true, and they likely had to include a clause mandating that their DLC characters come exclusively with their DLC costumes to make this work.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Don't know this news is worth discussing or not but here

Koei Tecmo president Hisashi Koinuma has said he would like to make a Dynasty Warriors style game featuring characters from the Mario universehttps://t.co/2bAju8Iu2B pic.twitter.com/IX8mB2MZxN

— VGC (@VGC_News) May 13, 2021

Would be cool if this were real and of course increase the viability of Dynasty Warriors being repped.

Plot twist, Nintendo was going to be ok with this but the the recent movie had them change their minds entirely

 

[Gengar84]

Are you happy with the way the Links have been implemented in this game?

Honestly, not really. I hate that they removed Link’s hook shot and gave him a generic grab instead. If he was going to be based on Breath of the Wild, they could have at least replaced it with Magnesis or Stasis. I’m also not really a fan of his classic tunic alt and I have no idea what they were thinking with that fierce dirty skin. They didn’t even get the colors right. Young Link also has a lot of wasted potential where he could have utilized the masks. Toon Link even has a lot more he could have worked with. I’m fine with echoes existing but I really don’t think we needed three Links. I think the other echoes are cool because they’re actually different characters.

 

[7NATOR]

Are you happy with the way the Links have been implemented in this game?

The only thing I would change is Make Young Link use Fierce Deity for his Final Smash. It would look cooler and would be a nice reference to Majora's Mask

Otherwise I think the Links are implemented Fine, even if I find Toon Link annoying to fight against personally. I also don't agree with people that says Young Link should have Masks in his main moveset. that would just ruin his game flow, and Skull Kid might be a better fit for that moveset concept, especially after Cadence shows him ultilizing the different masks

 

[JamesDNaux]

Mario + Rabbids: A Teensie Bit of Trouble has shown up in a few leaks at this point. All of them originating around the same time. If that is legit what the next one is called then the Rayman Implications are... quite exciting.

The smoke is getting thicker.

Are you happy with the way the Links have been implemented in this game?

I will forever mourn the loss of TP Link and I want nothing to do with Tink or Yink.

But if Yink had explicitly been his Majora's Mask incarnation then I'd probably have dropped Link for him.

 

[PSIGuy]

Are you happy with the way the Links have been implemented in this game?

I stand by Young Link being a waste for keeping his Melee design and not one more like Majora's Mask official art with the Razor Sword and Mirror Shield. Fierce Deity as a reskinned Triforce Slash would've been a neat touch too.

Don't really care for their moveset either way.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

What’s this about Mario + Rabbids leaks that say Rayman in Smash? Can someone fill me in?

 

[Gengar84]

The real hivemind is the people still believing Scrimbo Blimbo, the Lovable Scrunko has a chance.

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I always thought Scrimbo Blimbo, the Loveable Scrunko was a GameFAQs thing. I don’t really follow Smash other than GameFAQs and here so I’m probably wrong.