Pacack
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Agreed. I'm simply noting that the drop off was quite dramatic, and the pros in his favor still exist.I think Rayman kinda dropped off because he's just not as active as a franchise compared to the Smash 4 days. He's not exactly dormant, seeing as he still has that mobile game, but he hasn't had a real mainline game in a while and so he's just not in the spotlight anymore.
The idea that DLC won't include characters from preexisting series is based on nothing concrete. The Spirit Boards for Min-Min, Sephiroth, and Pyra/Mythra's all included spirits that were in base game. There is no reason whatsoever to think that the same thing cannot be done for any other character.First-parties in general have dropped off due to a variety of reasons. The DLC doesn't seem to favor settings with a fighter already - The sole exception thus far being Sephiroth, from an infamously poorly-repped series - And a lot of the recent Nintendo releases have been given Spirit Events. All the DLC packs have had all the content from that series all in once place, at least in terms of the pass. The one exception are the Tockle Spirits, which are a gift for getting DQXI or it's port. General agreement is that Spirits indicate that a game or series won't get a fighter; This includes New Horizons, and either way the pass was decided long before Nintendo could know about it's success.
This is exactly what I'm criticizing. The bar being lowered is not something based on significant evidence.Regarding the widened breadth of third-parties, that's largely because third-parties have been the norm throughout SSBU's DLC cycle, and also made up the majority of newcomers back in Smash 4's DLC. As such, most attention is directed towards the third-parties.
It should also be noted that we've had to adjust our priors a lot throughout the DLC cycle. Expectations were immediately blown out of the water with Joker, who only had a single Nintendo appearance to his name at that point. Smaller third-parties were dismissed until we got Terry. Everyone though FP1 would be entirely third-party up until Byleth's addition. Many doubted third-party series could get a second original fighter, and then we got Sephiroth. A lot of people have just lowered the bar in advance, because if there's any consistent pattern in Smash, it's patterns getting broken.
While Terry's inclusion seems like an odd outlier, it's undeniable that he still carries gaming history with him; his series is long-running and one of the most popular fighting game franchises. Terry absolutely fits the criteria that Sakurai lays out in the quote I provided, and we have no reason to believe that a character who doesn't fit those criteria will be added.
I'm not sure that you're recognizing how incredibly bold it is to say that we shouldn't take Sakurai at his word.I'll also say that Sakurai's comment isn't really able to determine much. "Owners must allow it" - Everyone and their mom wants their games in Smash. "Must be able to put them in Smash" - This is the guy who redid every stage in the game for Steve Minecraft. "Must have game history" - Vague and subjective. It's just too vague to take at face value.
"It’s not going to be anyone and everyone." "The character must carry game history with them."
Those are very plain statements. We can absolutely argue about who carries game history or who counts as anyone and everyone. However, it would be obtuse to suggest that those statements are meaningless. Yes, the statements have a level of ambiguity to them, but that does not mean we ought to disregard them entirely.