Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[SharkLord]

Bonus points if DK's TV is showing either the Menu like the TV in Background Matchmaking:

Or if DK / Diddy are flipping through the channels and accidentally stumble upon something like a HBox yell (volume warning, he screams loudly when he pops off).

Y'know, I initially read that as HBO for some reason and assumed it's some sort of memetic ad with someone screaming

 

[Rie Sonomura]

On an all-new epsiode of Keeping up with the Kongs

The Real Housekongs of Jungle Japes

“**** you K. Rool”
“***** wait till I swing over there imma **** you up”

yes I am referencing a vine what of it

 

[JOJONumber691]

Imagine if everyone's just chilling at DK's and they end up just getting into a Massive Brawl before Chief hops in and finishes the fight.

 

[SKX31]

Spoiler

Sorry if that's out of nowhere, it's just something I've been wondering for a while: Is there a specific reason why you go out of your way to put something related to competitive Smash in literally all of your replies? For example, I can see why you talk about Nintendo's management and region strategies because those can be relevant to the discussion but I don't get why you always raise the topic of the competitive scene even when nobody is talking about it.

Like, I get it if that's your thing, it just feels a little weird when someone talks about a character's chances to be a newcomer and you start talking about the gameplan, tier placement, and notable players of a similar character.

Spoiler: Honestly:

That's because I've spent a lot of my years watching that when it comes to Smash. Really, ever since I wanna say 2010. As someone who grew up playing tons of Melee (casually granted, I did not know of the more "Stop Having Fun Guys" aspect of things) seeing it take on a whole new life reinvigorated my interest in the game and honestly warmed my heart a bit. That's carried over to a large extent with 4 and Ultimate.

I've also been naturally interested in the more competitive aspects of sports / video games period: Kid me literally chose favorite sport teams to support based on stuff like "flashy play" and so on. (I became a Chicago Bulls fan literally because kid me saw Space Jam and was ****ing stoked about Michael Jordan. Yeah, I was a bandwagon back then and have no issues admitting that).

I raise it because I honestly believe it plays a part in development. Taking as an example, I wouldn't be surprised if part of the reason they extended dev time was so that Min Min (or hell, any ARMS character due to the nature of how ARMS works in the origin game) wouldn't be super-overwhelming or underwhelming. Thus it also might play a part in how Sakurai chooses to develop characters. He did after all seriously question if could even work.

I try not to talk about it too much, but it's been kinda difficult to avoid honestly if only due to internal biases. But yeah, I honestly didn't consider that, so thanks for pointing that out.

 

[osby]

Spoiler: Honestly:

That's because I've spent a lot of my years watching that when it comes to Smash. Really, ever since I wanna say 2010. As someone who grew up playing tons of Melee (casually granted, I did not know of the more "Stop Having Fun Guys" aspect of things) seeing it take on a whole new life reinvigorated my interest in the game and honestly warmed my heart a bit. That's carried over to a large extent with 4 and Ultimate.

I've also been naturally interested in the more competitive aspects of sports / video games period: Kid me literally chose favorite sport teams to support based on stuff like "flashy play" and so on. (I became a Chicago Bulls fan literally because kid me saw Space Jam and was ****ing stoked about Michael Jordan).

I raise it because I honestly believe it plays a part in development. Taking as an example, I wouldn't be surprised if part of the reason they extended dev time was so that Min Min (or hell, any ARMS character due to the nature of how ARMS works in the origin game) wouldn't be super-overwhelming or underwhelming. Designing a character so that they work is kinda difficult, but it also might play a part in how Sakurai chooses to develop characters. He did after all seriously question if could even work.

I try not to talk about it too much, but it's been kinda difficult to avoid honestly.

Understandable, thanks.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

They released an official Fnaf Beat 'Em Up today

Game Jolt - Share your creations

gamejolt.com

those who said that Freddy has no moveset potential. Eat Your Heart Out

Psh, clearly, those people never saw the RPG spinoff

 

[SKX31]

Posting this since we've discussed Sony's closure of Sony Japan here in the past:

Sony has said it will ‘aggressively’ invest in first-party studios and partnerships this year, with in-house costs increased by $183m.https://t.co/JxQYX8gkyg pic.twitter.com/jn5EyfE0He

— VGC (@VGC_News) April 28, 2021

The comments tally with those made by Sony Interactive Entertainment CEO Jim Ryan in a recent interview. Speaking to Nikkei this month, the PlayStation boss said SIE had been “quietly” investing in the creation of first-party software, and that it could pursue further M&A opportunities to bolster its in-house development capabilities.

“We have been quietly but steadily investing in high-quality games for PlayStation, and we will make sure that the PS5 generation will have more dedicated software than ever before,” Ryan said.

PlayStation recently closed its oldest first-party developer, Sony Japan Studio, but Ryan told Nikkei the company remains “committed to the Japanese market”.

While this does not neccessarily mean that Kat and other characters who were under Sony Japan's umbrella are safe (nor does Ryan's honestly vague comment reassure things if I may be so frank) I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they're telling the truth - at least one way or the other - and are perhaps looking at reorganizing their studios and bringing back (at least some of) their Sony Japan IPs in some form.

Psh, clearly, those people never saw the RPG spinoff

Huh, TIL there's a FNAF RPG spinoff. That's... not a genre I (nor most people) expected FNAF to have a game in TBF.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Huh, TIL there's a FNAF RPG spinoff. That's... not a genre I (nor most people) expected FNAF to have a game in TBF.

I think it was called FNAF World? I remember it using classic ATB style combat and initially being taken down for a year due to the dev not being happy with how it turned out

 

[Technomage]

On an all-new epsiode of Keeping up with the Kongs

Nah, you mean the Donkey Kong Country cartoon?

Psh, clearly, those people never saw the RPG spinoff

Nor the space Contra spinoff.

 

[cashregister9]

I think it was called FNAF World? I remember it using classic ATB style combat and initially being taken down for a year due to the dev not being happy with how it turned out

Yep and then he rereleased it for free a bit later with a massive expansion that teased the next mainline game.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

If Dixie actually gets in, I could see them using the K. Rool trailer format one last time tbh.

They could do an edited version with the female characters like Peach, Zelda, Samus, Palutena, etc, rather than villains.
And then it would still pan to DK's treehouse after the sequence.

 

[Technomage]

If Dixie actually gets in, I could see them using the K. Rool trailer format one last time tbh.

Thinking about Dixie getting in has also got me thinking about other scrapped characters getting in. For the purpose of discussing this topic, here is the list of scrapped characters:

Dragon King character (since Dragon King is practically a prototype of Smash Bros.)
Peppy and Slippy (since those two, along with Falco, were considered by Sakurai to be added as alternate skins for Fox back in Smash 1)
Balloon Fighter
Urban Champion
Bubbles from Clu Clu Land
Excitebiker
Ayumi Tachibana
Takamaru
Mach Rider
James Bond (even though we all know he's never gonna get into Smash in the current century)
Plusle and Minun
Dixie Kong
Toon Zelda
Tetra/Toon Sheik
Geno
Blastoise
Krystal
Classic Sonic instead of Modern Sonic
Rhythm Heaven character
Alph (as an echo of Olimar)
Heihachi
Alucard
Decidueye
Slime
Other Dragon Questers
Rex
Ninjara
The character called "NONE"

Now, what's say we discuss those characters? Like, which characters could be possible as a new DLC char? I know Ayumi is the primest candidate there. Other less prime, but still kinda prime, candidates would be Decidueye and maybe Ninjara as an echo/bonus fighter.

Also, I am kinda sad that Krystal didn't make it into Brawl's roster.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Thinking about Dixie getting in has also got me thinking about other scrapped characters getting in. For the purpose of discussing this topic, here is the list of scrapped characters:

Dragon King character (since Dragon King is practically a prototype of Smash Bros.)
Peppy and Slippy (since those two, along with Falco, were considered by Sakurai to be added as alternate skins for Fox back in Smash 1)
Balloon Fighter
Urban Champion
Bubbles from Clu Clu Land
Excitebiker
Ayumi Tachibana
Takamaru
Mach Rider
James Bond (even though we all know he's never gonna get into Smash in the current century)
Plusle and Minun
Dixie Kong
Toon Zelda
Tetra/Toon Sheik
Geno
Blastoise
Krystal
Classic Sonic instead of Modern Sonic
Rhythm Heaven character
Alph (as an echo of Olimar)
Heihachi
Alucard
Decidueye
Ninjara
The character called "NONE"

Now, what's say we discuss those characters? Like, which characters could be possible as a new DLC char? I know Ayumi is the primest candidate there. Other less prime, but still kinda prime, candidates would be Decidueye and maybe Ninjara as an echo/bonus fighter.

Also, I am kinda sad that Krystal didn't make it into Brawl's roster.

The character called “NONE”

Is this a joke or was that actually a thing? I could use some context

also, going off the Chun-Lloyd rumor, I suppose you could add Chun-li, Lloyd and Yuri to this list if neither show up by the end of Ult’s DLC, ESPECIALLY if the Lloyd costume returns which it most likely will. That’s for future smash games tho obviously

especially since it said Chun-li was straight up replaced by Ken

 

[Technomage]

Is this a joke or was that actually a thing? I could use some context

also, going off the Chun-Lloyd rumor, I suppose you could add Chun-li, Lloyd and Yuri to this list if neither show up by the end of Ult’s DLC, ESPECIALLY if the Lloyd costume returns which it most likely will. That’s for future smash games tho obviously

especially since it said Chun-li was straight up replaced by Ken

Okay, here's the article about the NONE character:

NONE

NONE, internally known as CHKIND_NONE, is a "character" in Super Smash Bros. Melee which can only be found via debug menu. NONE's data is found in the list of characters; attempting to start a match with NONE in it, however, causes the game to...

www.ssbwiki.com

Also, I checked Ultimate's list of scrapped content on the Smash Wiki, and I didn't see Chun-Li or the Tales boys on it.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Is this a joke or was that actually a thing? I could use some context

also, going off the Chun-Lloyd rumor, I suppose you could add Chun-li, Lloyd and Yuri to this list if neither show up by the end of Ult’s DLC, ESPECIALLY if the Lloyd costume returns which it most likely will. That’s for future smash games tho obviously

especially since it said Chun-li was straight up replaced by Ken

Techno listed stuff that we know for a fact was considered, a 4chan post is very different from direct statements and datamining and should not be included

 

[SharkLord]

Is this a joke or was that actually a thing? I could use some context

also, going off the Chun-Lloyd rumor, I suppose you could add Chun-li, Lloyd and Yuri to this list if neither show up by the end of Ult’s DLC, ESPECIALLY if the Lloyd costume returns which it most likely will. That’s for future smash games tho obviously

especially since it said Chun-li was straight up replaced by Ken

The rumor was never confirmed. Until Sakurai explicitly states that they were scrapped, they don't count.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Okay, here's the article about the NONE character:

NONE

NONE, internally known as CHKIND_NONE, is a "character" in Super Smash Bros. Melee which can only be found via debug menu. NONE's data is found in the list of characters; attempting to start a match with NONE in it, however, causes the game to...

www.ssbwiki.com

Also, I checked Ultimate's list of scrapped content on the Smash Wiki, and I didn't see Chun-Li or the Tales boys on it.

In this case NONE is probably just a failsafe/dummy file

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Well, we are now about to enter May.

Baseball season's back.

baseball szn⚾ pic.twitter.com/3THsRQXIrw

— Anh⚡️ (@ZoruaChu) April 28, 2021

Some music to match the art.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

Baseball season's back.

baseball szn⚾ pic.twitter.com/3THsRQXIrw

— Anh⚡️ (@ZoruaChu) April 28, 2021

The thing I like most about this is that everyone's in their baseball uniforms and Terry just shows up in his street clothes because playing baseball is just another Tuesday to him.

 

[SpectreJordan]

Thinking about Dixie getting in has also got me thinking about other scrapped characters getting in. For the purpose of discussing this topic, here is the list of scrapped characters:

Dragon King character (since Dragon King is practically a prototype of Smash Bros.)
Peppy and Slippy (since those two, along with Falco, were considered by Sakurai to be added as alternate skins for Fox back in Smash 1)
Balloon Fighter
Urban Champion
Bubbles from Clu Clu Land
Excitebiker
Ayumi Tachibana
Takamaru
Mach Rider
James Bond (even though we all know he's never gonna get into Smash in the current century)
Plusle and Minun
Dixie Kong
Toon Zelda
Tetra/Toon Sheik
Geno
Blastoise
Krystal
Classic Sonic instead of Modern Sonic
Rhythm Heaven character
Alph (as an echo of Olimar)
Heihachi
Alucard
Decidueye
Slime
Other Dragon Questers
Rex
Ninjara
The character called "NONE"

Now, what's say we discuss those characters? Like, which characters could be possible as a new DLC char? I know Ayumi is the primest candidate there. Other less prime, but still kinda prime, candidates would be Decidueye and maybe Ninjara as an echo/bonus fighter.

Also, I am kinda sad that Krystal didn't make it into Brawl's roster.

I’d say Decidueye is the most likely here. He was one of the more popular requests during the run up to Ultimate’s launch. He’s also about to get another surge of relevancy due to being a starter in Pokemon Legends.

I could see the Pokemon Company asking for a Smash character to promote that game even if it’s a bit far out; they announced the game earlier than they usually do & the starters are all returning Pokemon, so it’s not like Sakurai wouldn’t know how to make a moveset for them.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Thinking about Dixie getting in has also got me thinking about other scrapped characters getting in. For the purpose of discussing this topic, here is the list of scrapped characters:

Dragon King character (since Dragon King is practically a prototype of Smash Bros.)
Peppy and Slippy (since those two, along with Falco, were considered by Sakurai to be added as alternate skins for Fox back in Smash 1)
Balloon Fighter
Urban Champion
Bubbles from Clu Clu Land
Excitebiker
Ayumi Tachibana
Takamaru
Mach Rider
James Bond (even though we all know he's never gonna get into Smash in the current century)
Plusle and Minun
Dixie Kong
Toon Zelda
Tetra/Toon Sheik
Geno
Blastoise
Krystal
Classic Sonic instead of Modern Sonic
Rhythm Heaven character
Alph (as an echo of Olimar)
Heihachi
Alucard
Decidueye
Slime
Other Dragon Questers
Rex
Ninjara
The character called "NONE"

Now, what's say we discuss those characters? Like, which characters could be possible as a new DLC char? I know Ayumi is the primest candidate there. Other less prime, but still kinda prime, candidates would be Decidueye and maybe Ninjara as an echo/bonus fighter.

Also, I am kinda sad that Krystal didn't make it into Brawl's roster.

Where'd Classic Sonic come from? I never heard of that.

Also, Tetra was never in the game data and should be separated from Toon Sheik entirely. She was only on a poll, but the data could only mean one thing. Sakurai would've labeled her Tetra if he meant it. That said, it's a poll, not a confirmation he considered her at any point, so actually shouldn't be on this list.

Technically Alph was never considered as an Echo, as that didn't exist till Ultimate. Just a clone(or model swap as the official term he uses) at the time, but the idea got scrapped for whatever reason. If he was considered as an Echo, that'd be in Ultimate, and there's nothing to suggest they looked over him again other than an assumption.

Plusle & Minun is an assumption of the data and doesn't even match the translation very well from what other Pokemon are translated. It might've been them, but it's a completely awkward translation if so. I wouldn't list them here in this case since it's not clear it was them. It definitely couldn't have been the other poor transltion, being "RANDOM", though. But it's definitely a character. Who, we're not sure yet.

Obviously you mean scrapped/considered overall here, cause many of these weren't actually scrapped as ideas.

 

[Merengue]

Wonder when there is going to be a "Children on the battefield" tourney where it features a kids only tourney. It would include Villager, Toon Link, Ness, Lucas, Young Link, Inkling, Joker, and a certain "child dictator."

Imagine being Ness' dad/mom having your 12 year old son fight Sephiroth.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Wonder when there is going to be a "Children on the battefield" tourney where it features a kids only tourney. It would include Villager, Toon Link, Ness, Lucas, Young Link, Inkling, Joker, and a certain "child dictator."

Imagine being Ness' dad having your son fight Sephiroth.

I don’t think Ness’s dad has room to talk as he’s literally a frickin phone

 

[SNEKeater]

Posting this since we've discussed Sony's closure of Sony Japan here in the past:

Sony has said it will ‘aggressively’ invest in first-party studios and partnerships this year, with in-house costs increased by $183m.https://t.co/JxQYX8gkyg pic.twitter.com/jn5EyfE0He

— VGC (@VGC_News) April 28, 2021

While this does not neccessarily mean that Kat and other characters who were under Sony Japan's umbrella are safe (nor does Ryan's honestly vague comment reassure things if I may be so frank) I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they're telling the truth - at least one way or the other - and are perhaps looking at reorganizing their studios and bringing back (at least some of) their Sony Japan IPs in some form.

I don't think it necessarily means anything for Gravity Rush or other Japan Studios IPs. Sony has been gradually increasing their investment in first party games each year so this isn't new, if anything, this is the the usual for them, at least in the last years.

Personally I think it's more safe to think that they're putting more resources in their studios so they're capable of handling 2 projects at once (they've talked in multiple times that they wanted to grow their studios), or at least more manpower in order to achieve less dev time for their big games.

Of course they will still support "lesser" projects, at least for a while. Demon's Souls remake, Returnal and Sackboy, to name a few, prove that. But most of these games are coincidentally developed by third party devs (Bluepoint, Housemarque, Sumo Digital) that could be considered partners, because they've already worked with Sony in other games before, so maybe they're approaching a "our studios will make AAA games, and for other projects we'll have our close partners" strategy.

If there's enough demand or interest for certain IPs they will probably do something. For example: ICO/Shadow of the Colossus/The Last Guardian might not be best sellers but they have a very devoted audience, plus they're very acclaimed games, so I could see them eventually returning to these IPs in the form of re-releases, remakes (they already did one for SotC) and more.

 

[GoodGrief741]

I don't think it necessarily means anything for Gravity Rush or other Japan Studios IPs. Sony has been gradually increasing their investment in first party games each year so this isn't new, if anything, this is the the usual for them, at least in the last years.

Personally I think it's more safe to think that they're putting more resources in their studios so they're capable of handling 2 projects at once (they've talked in multiple times that they wanted to grow their studios), or at least more manpower in order to achieve less dev time for their big games.

Of course they will still support "lesser" projects, at least for a while. Demon's Souls remake, Returnal and Sackboy, to name a few, prove that. But most of these games are coincidentally developed by third party devs (Bluepoint, Housemarque, Sumo Digital) that could be considered partners, because they've already worked with Sony in other games before, so maybe they're approaching a "our studios will make AAA games, and for other projects we'll have our close partners" strategy.

If there's enough demand or interest for certain IPs they will probably do something. For example: ICO/Shadow of the Colossus/The Last Guardian might not be best sellers but they have a very devoted audience, plus they're very acclaimed games, so I could see them eventually returning to these IPs in the form of re-releases, remakes (they already did one for SotC) and more.

I was today years old when I learned that those three studios are independent, so I guess their strategy's working out.

 

[Sigran101]

Thinking about Dixie getting in has also got me thinking about other scrapped characters getting in. For the purpose of discussing this topic, here is the list of scrapped characters:

Dragon King character (since Dragon King is practically a prototype of Smash Bros.)
Peppy and Slippy (since those two, along with Falco, were considered by Sakurai to be added as alternate skins for Fox back in Smash 1)
Balloon Fighter
Urban Champion
Bubbles from Clu Clu Land
Excitebiker
Ayumi Tachibana
Takamaru
Mach Rider
James Bond (even though we all know he's never gonna get into Smash in the current century)
Plusle and Minun
Dixie Kong
Toon Zelda
Tetra/Toon Sheik
Geno
Blastoise
Krystal
Classic Sonic instead of Modern Sonic
Rhythm Heaven character
Alph (as an echo of Olimar)
Heihachi
Alucard
Decidueye
Slime
Other Dragon Questers
Rex
Ninjara
The character called "NONE"

Now, what's say we discuss those characters? Like, which characters could be possible as a new DLC char? I know Ayumi is the primest candidate there. Other less prime, but still kinda prime, candidates would be Decidueye and maybe Ninjara as an echo/bonus fighter.

Also, I am kinda sad that Krystal didn't make it into Brawl's roster.

Most of this is wrong. A few of these were actually scrapped, but most were briefly considered but not taken seriously, such as balloon fighter and Takamaru. Plusle and Minun were never confirmed, Rythm Heaven being planned was just a "leak", Geno was one Sakurai said he wanted to add, but not that he ever even considered let alone worked on, and the only thing he said about Slime is that he would have said yes to it if square offered him that but wouldn't give them Hero.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Tbh until they find a way to make Rex work with Pyra and Mythra a la XC2 proper without making the system literally explode I don’t think Rex is happening anytime soon

Pyra and Mythra sans Rex are just fine in the meantime, and it is a callback to Torna with the Blades fighting on their own without giving their weapon to the driver

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Most of this is wrong. A few of these were actually scrapped, but most were briefly considered but not taken seriously, such as balloon fighter and Takamaru. Plusle and Minun were never confirmed, Rythm Heaven being planned was just a "leak", Geno was one Sakurai said he wanted to add, but not that he ever even considered let alone worked on, and the only thing he said about Slime is that he would have said yes to it if square offered him that but wouldn't give them Hero.

Actually Rhythm Heaven did indeed seem to have a character judging by datamining, so scrapped would indeed be accurate

 

[Technomage]

Where'd Classic Sonic come from? I never heard of that.

Also, Tetra was never in the game data and should be separated from Toon Sheik entirely. She was only on a poll, but the data could only mean one thing. Sakurai would've labeled her Tetra if he meant it. That said, it's a poll, not a confirmation he considered her at any point, so actually shouldn't be on this list.

Technically Alph was never considered as an Echo, as that didn't exist till Ultimate. Just a clone(or model swap as the official term he uses) at the time, but the idea got scrapped for whatever reason. If he was considered as an Echo, that'd be in Ultimate, and there's nothing to suggest they looked over him again other than an assumption.

Plusle & Minun is an assumption of the data and doesn't even match the translation very well from what other Pokemon are translated. It might've been them, but it's a completely awkward translation if so. I wouldn't list them here in this case since it's not clear it was them. It definitely couldn't have been the other poor transltion, being "RANDOM", though. But it's definitely a character. Who, we're not sure yet.

Obviously you mean scrapped/considered overall here, cause many of these weren't actually scrapped as ideas.

Most of this is wrong. A few of these were actually scrapped, but most were briefly considered but not taken seriously, such as balloon fighter and Takamaru. Plusle and Minun were never confirmed, Rythm Heaven being planned was just a "leak", Geno was one Sakurai said he wanted to add, but not that he ever even considered let alone worked on, and the only thing he said about Slime is that he would have said yes to it if square offered him that but wouldn't give them Hero.

Yeah, I got my info from Smash Wiki's articles on unused content. I also assumed that "considered" was close enough to "scrapped."

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Tbh until they find a way to make Rex work with Pyra and Mythra a la XC2 proper without making the system literally explode I don’t think Rex is happening anytime soon

Pyra and Mythra sans Rex are just fine in the meantime, and it is a callback to Torna with the Blades fighting on their own without giving their weapon to the driver

Yeah nah lmao they're not adding Rex, next opportunity for any character is a new game entirely and the only time we got a character from an older game at that time frame was when the character was an echo, Rex missed his shot like countless other characters with revolving casts and when Sakurai decided to cater to the wrong Xenoblade for being underrepped, they didn't go for him. He's not even gonna be a popular request as absolutely nobody is upset at Rex missing the boat considering Pythra are that much more popular

 

[SKX31]

Thinking about Dixie getting in has also got me thinking about other scrapped characters getting in. For the purpose of discussing this topic, here is the list of scrapped characters:

Dragon King character (since Dragon King is practically a prototype of Smash Bros.)
Peppy and Slippy (since those two, along with Falco, were considered by Sakurai to be added as alternate skins for Fox back in Smash 1)
Balloon Fighter
Urban Champion
Bubbles from Clu Clu Land
Excitebiker
Ayumi Tachibana
Takamaru
Mach Rider
James Bond (even though we all know he's never gonna get into Smash in the current century)
Plusle and Minun
Dixie Kong
Toon Zelda
Tetra/Toon Sheik
Geno
Blastoise
Krystal
Classic Sonic instead of Modern Sonic
Rhythm Heaven character
Alph (as an echo of Olimar)
Heihachi
Alucard
Decidueye
Ninjara
The character called "NONE"

Now, what's say we discuss those characters? Like, which characters could be possible as a new DLC char? I know Ayumi is the primest candidate there. Other less prime, but still kinda prime, candidates would be Decidueye and maybe Ninjara as an echo/bonus fighter.

Also, I am kinda sad that Krystal didn't make it into Brawl's roster.

It's a wonky situation overall since:

* Several characters could be potential Retro picks (Balloon Fighter, Excitebiker / Mach Rider, Takamaru) but Sakurai and co. don't usually go for multiple Retro picks in a short timespan. Chances are that they'll "trickle in" base game by base game.

* While some characters can be based on existing characters and go for either semi-clone or more unique direction (Ninjara, Dixie, Krystal etc.) they likewise don't come in often.

* Several characters that represent "Other" Nintendo franchises (RH, Ayumi, even characters not on this list like Isaac) don't come in often either.

Out of those, if I were to make a judgement call I'd say the characters from the existing series seem favored from an outsider's perspective. Although if I was forced to rank them I'd go something like this for the five likliest:

1. Ayumi - recent remake, an idea that Sakurai evidently entertained, unique moveset potential.
2. Dixie - considered tag team idea, relatively easy to go back and restart dev for.
3. Takamaru - considered idea, his AT already have some potential specials.
4. Ninjara - relatively easy to start dev on, can be differentiated from Min Min relatively easily.
5. Decidueye - upcoming game that the 'Mon headlines, archery is an idea that Sakurai's toyed with but never really employed in full force so there's a clear opportunity to rectify that, might not be super-difficult to develop.

(Geno gets an honorable mention, although I'm not sure if he's close to likely really)

 

[Technomage]

Yeah nah lmao they're not adding Rex, next opportunity for any character is a new game entirely and the only time we got a character from an older game at that time frame was when the character was an echo, Rex missed his shot like countless other characters with revolving casts and when Sakurai decided to cater to the wrong Xenoblade for being underrepped, they didn't go for him. He's not even gonna be a popular request as absolutely nobody is upset at Rex missing the boat considering Pythra are that much more popular

Not to mention that Rex's exclusion from the roster is also often used as the butt of a joke.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Yeah nah lmao they're not adding Rex, next opportunity for any character is a new game entirely and the only time we got a character from an older game at that time frame was when the character was an echo, Rex missed his shot like countless other characters with revolving casts and when Sakurai decided to cater to the wrong Xenoblade for being underrepped, they didn't go for him. He's not even gonna be a popular request as absolutely nobody is upset at Rex missing the boat considering Pythra are that much more popular

You DO realise some people are legit upset we didn't get Rex, and don't consider Pyra solo to be accurate to the game, right?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Not to mention that Rex's exclusion from the roster is also often used as the butt of a joke.

Tbf that was also the case for Chrom, but Chrom had Echo potential which got him added and the jokes removed from the game, which Rex doesn't have as he can't be an echo

 

[PeridotGX]

Wonder when there is going to be a "Children on the battefield" tourney where it features a kids only tourney. It would include Villager, Toon Link, Ness, Lucas, Young Link, Inkling, Joker, and a certain "child dictator."

Imagine being Ness' dad/mom having your 12 year old son fight Sephiroth.

Hell yeah, Baby Roman Emporor Nero would be sick.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Yeah nah lmao they're not adding Rex, next opportunity for any character is a new game entirely and the only time we got a character from an older game at that time frame was when the character was an echo, Rex missed his shot like countless other characters with revolving casts and when Sakurai decided to cater to the wrong Xenoblade for being underrepped, they didn't go for him. He's not even gonna be a popular request as absolutely nobody is upset at Rex missing the boat considering Pythra are that much more popular

Not to mention that Rex's exclusion from the roster is also often used as the butt of a joke.

Really telling that they forgot to even include him in the "Everyone is here" banner mural as a taunt character despite the fact that they included Morgana and Slime.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Yeah nah lmao they're not adding Rex, next opportunity for any character is a new game entirely and the only time we got a character from an older game at that time frame was when the character was an echo, Rex missed his shot like countless other characters with revolving casts and when Sakurai decided to cater to the wrong Xenoblade for being underrepped, they didn't go for him. He's not even gonna be a popular request as absolutely nobody is upset at Rex missing the boat considering Pythra are that much more popular

Cries in X still getting nothing

at least X is very likely to get a DIRECT sequel with (most of) the same cast so... one day, Elma. One day...

 

[SharkLord]

One idea I considered is Rex with basically every other Blade in the game, but I don't know how well that would work because I think Sakurai would want them as a tag team and not just him bringing out their weapons for attacks, and either way that wouldn't really be the most accurate moveset. In general, I think Rex would need A: A stronger system, and B: Either Sakurai or another director being willing to go back and redo Pyra/Mythra to accommodate for him.

I've seem him suggested as an Echo for the Blades, but I dunno, he doesn't strike me as someone who would do acrobatic flips and ballerina twirls unless he actually does do all that and I just haven't done my homework

 

[Cutie Gwen]

You DO realise some people are legit upset we didn't get Rex, and don't consider Pyra solo to be accurate to the game, right?

Yeah and they don't matter, just like how Lyn fans don't matter, Elma fans don't matter, Ghirahim fans don't matter, etc. ****, I had to go and double check cause fun fact, the Rex support thread has had literally zero activity in a month. That just so happens to be veeeery similar to what happened with the Decidueye thread once Ivysaur got confirmed, "Oh nice got a grass type, don't care about this one anymore". Just replace grass type with XB2 rep.

 

[Technomage]

Really telling that they forgot to even include him in the "Everyone is here" banner mural as a taunt character despite the fact that they included Morgana and Slime.

Not only that, but they even included Cappy (technically, as he is now Mario's hat) and the Rope Snake, who are also taunt characters, in that mural.