Dissidia Mafia: Over Serial Killer Wiins! ~ Told you $#!* got real!

[JTB]

@ Gheb

What do you think of Vult Redux' stance in regards to Radical Fiction and yourself? Can you see where he is coming from?

I understand why Vult took a stance on me and I believe I cleared up the misconceptions he had about my post. Regarding Radical Fiction however, he hasn't taken a stance on him yet, so I'm assuming that will come sometime in the future.

What do you think of DatHydra's statement that most talk of the beginning of the Day hasn't been very useful and actually been more of a hindrance to us? Agreed or disagreed? Reasoning?

I agree with DatHydra that the beginning of the day had not been very useful. It felt like the first few pages was solely a DatHydra-Gheb-Soupamario conversation with ample opportunity for someone else to jump in.

Ignoring the fact that he's mainly been posting in pictures, what content do you think Radical Fiction has contributed and which of his stances you find yourself agreeing with?

I feel like most of the time, Radical Fiction is simply pointing out posts and letting other people create arguments from those posts. An example is the defensive picture he posted on me, but never elaborated on. Instead, someone else followed up on his post and created their own argument.

I agree with alot of his posts directed at Soupa, especially this:

 

[JTB]

My thoughts

Glyph - has only made two posts since the game started, one in which provided no content. I want to see him post a bit more before I take a stronger stance on him.

Radical fiction - WIFOM. as asdioh posted, going through his posts to make a read on him is a nightmare since they are all just picture links. if he was town, wouldn't he want to make it easier for people to see he is town? and if he was mafia, wouldn't he want it to make it harder for people to make a read on him so they are less likely to lynch him just incase he is a PR? So null right now, I don't know what to think

DatHydra/Gheb - Leaning towards town for both, moreso DatHydra. I especially agree with his stance on how the beginning was pretty useless since it was being dominated by 2 players and I commend him for trying to involve other players.

Hida/smarboy - Waiting on their posts today before I say anything

everyone else - I'll come back to you later on

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I'd like to apologize for not posting much recently, there was a bit of an issue on the site that I've been trying to sort out and it's been pretty time consuming. I'll be catching up well before the deadline though

 

[RoxPSI]

I found it odd that you singled out Glyph instead of people like myself who have directly talked to you



-Roxy

 

[JTB]

I singled out Glyph because he is the only person that has not stated that he was going to make a post today. It doesn't have to do with my personal relationship with him, but his part so far in the game.

 

[Radical Fiction]

@everyone not Gheb:

http://guothb.ytmnd.com/

 

[RoxPSI]

Barely skimmed jack s***. But hey. That's why I'm a hydra, right?

I'm really disliking this attitude that being a hydra pardons you from actively playing. As a hydra, you should generally be caring more so that way you don't hurt your partner

I don't care what alignment Swiker is. He's staying in the game cuz he makes me lol with his little pics. Def Moriarty status.

I know you're joking and all, but do you agree or disagree that his style of posting may or may not be hurting this game? I generally don't believe that getting a legitimate read off of that style of posting will be possible. It's detrimental towards town and as Soupa pointed out, generally lynch worthy IMO (not enough to lynch yet though, we need to keep up with hunting and activity bulstering).

I'll read tomorrow and come up with something that'll make you go woah look at dat mang he's so town I just want em till the end.

Where are you, bra?

Yea. I'm bored. Sue me.

Then why didn't you read?

We aren't happy with you.

Also we as a team (Roxy and rPSI) decided that we're starting to like Soupa more and that he may not be as bad as we thought in an endgame situation.
Unvote

for activity prod sake
Vote: Smarboy69

 

[RoxPSI]

Ebwop:

 

[Radical Fiction]

I know you're joking and all, but do you agree or disagree that his style of posting may or may not be hurting this game? I generally don't believe that getting a legitimate read off of that style of posting will be possible. It's detrimental towards town and as Soupa pointed out, generally lynch worthy IMO (not enough to lynch yet though, we need to keep up with hunting and activity bulstering).

 

[Radical Fiction]

Fuuuuuuuuu

 

[Radical Fiction]

 

[Asdioh]

welp this is now my only mafia game, so I can pay superattention to this one :D

 

[RoxPSI]

Asdioh, a lot of your information is only based on Hydra and Soupa, much of it isn't even scumhunting. Thoughts on active players in the game thus far.

Hello Tandora and Glyph, hope to see both of you contributing soon.

-Roxy

 

[Tandora]

I'll ride the noob train until I finally manage to finish a game. After the disappointment of Doctor Who, I only realize how much farther I have to go. And I'll write a more in-depth post blasting someone or other when I get home. See you then, sweety.

You buddying me?

Seriously, I saw you play a lot better in Dr Who on contributing. Now you're straight back to "I'm new. I don't like name calling." Ask questions, voice your opinion. Contribute!

Null on Gheb. Struggling with a read.

JTB is looking scummy. He has a reasonable number of posts, but most of them are about his No Lynch or suggesting a Radical Fiction posting restriction. His defence on his case was strong, but he's lacked any input to the day. There's no questioning of other players or active scumhunting. Feels like he's coasting.


Tandora is looking ever so slightly towny. She(?, sorry, I don't know if Tandora is male or female) only has one substantial post, but that one post looks good. Makes connections, asks questions. I'd like to see more activity, but what she has now is a lot more than a lot of people.

I can definitely tell that Sei is posting this since Kuz is my SWF husbando and knows I'm a girl. =3

I agree with you on JTB. I find that his posts are typically one liners that don't really contribute at all. Looks a lot like fluff posting to me where you post often but you don't actually give any information or take any stances.

Here's my thoughts on my ISO on him:
ISO JTB
54 - Anti no lynch
116 - Does Radical have a posting restriction?
154 - To soup, don't edit posts.
Post 164 - I assume this post is to me, right?
Post 166 - I unvoted b/c Soup gave a reason. Too early for strog stances
Post 169 - Ryker, you should use a second tab.
203 - I think Kuz was messing with Roxy
219 - I'll respond after dungeon on Rift
222- Response (that was fast, an hour later) - only defends self, no questions or prodding other players
274 - Noob card
279 - I'll do better
281 - Agreeing with people
282 - Actual content
285 - Defending self

So far I found one post that seem to actually give content. I don't know how I feel about him playing the newb card either.

@JTB, I'd like for you to pick three people and ask them specific questions. It doesn't even have to be related to what's been spoken about in game.

Hello Tandora and Glyph, hope to see both of you contributing soon.

Quick, off topic annoyance. I get tired of people saying I'm not contributing. Game started about twenty four hours ago and I've posted several times. Quality > quantity.

Two-fisted monkey style attack!

 

[Purple]

Ignore this.; apologies.

 

[RoxPSI]

I agree with quality over quantity Tandora, but upon reading your posts I don't see any strong stances from you; if you take away the Gheb/Soupa conversation in the beginning of the conversation you're left with nothing. Note that I feel you've put yourself out there more than the others I feel are inactive (you are in no way inactive, just not commenting on recent events), but you're missing things on people such as rfiction, vult, jtb, and myself. I just would like more from you is all, I personally apologize if this comment peeved you (which it seems it did).

* - I am now reading your iso read in your post, i just noted that you quoted me beforehand.

-Roxy

 

[th3kuzinator]

V/LA for a bit, going to japan.

Will be able to post a bit every other night probably. Will try to stay as active as possible.

Seik will be handling things in the mean time. Be nice, or ill fight you.

 

[smarboy69]

About activity: I haven't had a chance to talk to the other head of this hydra about this game at all. That should change tomorrow. I don't have time to post right now (I'm on my way to bed), but there will be content from us tomorrow.

Brief thoughts:

Soupa: Town, not playing well though. The pictures, sadly, aren't going to change, and lynching RF on the basis of it is a policy lynch. The PR discussion has already been brought up, as has the no lynch vote. Also, telling people what to do to not make them scum in your eyes is a Bad Thing because scum reads it and guess what? You've just told them exactly what not to do. Conclusion: Probably town.

RF: Gboy likes the pictures, I think it's a stupid meta-dodge. Promise me you'll cut it out if you survive to LyLo?

RoxPSI: Soupa doesn't get to edit, neither do you *angryface*. Posts seem on the safe side, he's not taking a lot of risks, IGMEOY.

Gheb: I'll reevaluate after talking with Gboy

Vult: Better. In fact, UnFOS

I'll post about everyone else tomorrow.

 

[smarboy69]

EBWOP: In the unlikely event that we don't get a chance to talk tomorrow, I'll just post my own thoughts - I know I'll have time to get on.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Regarding Radical Fiction however, he hasn't taken a stance on him yet, so I'm assuming that will come sometime in the future.

Assuming he does *not* take a stance in the future would you find that suspicious? For what reasons? Keep in mind that Vult is currently voting for him.

I feel like most of the time, Radical Fiction is simply pointing out posts and letting other people create arguments from those posts. An example is the defensive picture he posted on me, but never elaborated on. Instead, someone else followed up on his post and created their own argument.

Don't see how that's the case. His arguments are pretty clear to me and not hard to read at all. He thought your quick unvoting of Soup after being called out for voting him was overly defensive and worth noting. What's there to be confused about and what's the part he needs to elaborate on? I don't see much that's left to figure out from his pictures.

Also would like to add that his activity has been perfectly fine so far and that you don't have to specifically ask him about his stances. He's actively hunting scum. Don't see the problem people have with him.

@JTB, I'd like for you to pick three people and ask them specific questions. It doesn't even have to be related to what's been spoken about in game.

So you're thinking he didn't contribute much to the discussion in terms of scum hunting. But then you promote discussion that's not directly related to hunting scum - hell, not even necessarily about *this game*? 281 and 282 are full of stances to question and to get information on his suspects from; don't see why you're trying to change your approach after he finally started to be more concrete.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Also @RoxPSI I don't see why you single out smar in terms of activity. Glyph, Hida and Red Ryu are the one's I found the have given us the least to work with so far. Ironic because you thought JTB singling out Glyph was weird enough for you to point out but I think you singling out smar isn't any less remarkable.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Vult, you claimed to have a feeling that Radical was onto something "really good" but then he backed off. What exactly is the scummy part of that? Since you agree with me that pressuring JTB wouldn't have given us a lot to work with you're ought to give us a better reason to vote Radical than that. I don't understand your stance either way - if JTB's posts actually were scummy he would've been more suspect than Radical but if since we don't assume them to be scummy where exactly lies your problem with Radical?

Quoting this for Vult because it's a new page on 40ppp and I don't want him to miss that.

 

[Radical Fiction]

meta-dodge.

 

[DatHydra]

I’m feeling a bit better about JTB. He hasn’t brought anything particularly new to the table, but he seems sincere in his post. I'll need to re-evaluate this later on, but I'm satisfied for now.

Waiting for content from Red Ryu, Glyph, Hida.

@JTB & Vult: I’d like your thoughts on either RoxPSI or Tandora. You can pick.

@Asdioh When do you think you’ll be up to date with this game? I Just Iso’d you, you’ve only really commented on Gheb, Soup and I. Your read on JTB was very wishy washy, “So yeah he could be displaying a townie standpoint there... maybe.”. When you’re up to date, I’d like you to take one person you feel you have a strong read on and explain why.

@Gheb Do you feel anyone is buddying you or me this game?

Unvote

 

[smarboy69]

RF: It's analogous to village idiot play, where you deliberately play in an obtuse manner so people can't read you - and you do it even as town, when you could be helping scumhunt, so that people won't think you're scum when you do it as scum. Posting in pictures instead of words is meta-play, not game-play. And it's amusing, it's not necessarily even scummy, but it is anti-town.

 

[Swiss]

RF: Gboy likes the pictures, I think it's a stupid meta-dodge. Promise me you'll cut it out if you survive to LyLo?

Also, does anyone know how long pics loaded to IMGUR (no account) last? I just realised that half way through the game they might vanish.

 

[DatHydra]

Also, does anyone know how long pics loaded to IMGUR (no account) last? I just realised that half way through the game they might vanish.

As long as they're regularly being viewed they don't disappear.

They won't vanish mid-game. They probably will when archived.

 

[Swiss]

< Should have logged into RaydikalFikshun.

Glyph town. Smar/Gord town. DatHydra leans scum. Gheb sjquefvque. Asdioh leans town. JTB was leaning more scummy than he was. Soupatown. I forget my reads on the rest.

Will content y'all up soon.

JTB and Kuz, respond to what was said in my catch up post, the points were normally in rage comic style. Soupa you never 'decided'.

 

[DatHydra]

A few posts later....

His vote remained on me, I saw that as pressure. My intent was not to push a Soup lynch, but to clear my name. When Soup unvoted us, we no longer pressured him.

Not sure if serious...


#138

Is this game going to become Kuzi DatHydra vs Gheb, by any chance? I had a hunch it might when I noticed Gheb's posting style is similar to the Kuzi I've gotten used to..

#170

Kuz - My second half is gone and we didn't get much conversation in about you; I (roxy) have problems putting a finger on what you are; I feel you're pushing in the right direction, however skimming is not a good look on your part; regardless of how indirect gheb's info is. Leaning towards town, but ever so slightly.

#150

I don't care what people think, but sorry Kuz, my gut goes with scum right now.

(Although to be fair to Soup he did go back and forth refering us to Kuz and as our Hydra.)


These all occured before your big image post, and more importantly, before JTB's post (#203). People had been calling our hydra Kuz for a while. Why is JTB's post significant but the others aren't?


And this post is when I addressed the issue.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12270796&postcount=247

From that post onwards, I have not been refered to as Kuz.

 

[Radical Fiction]

 

[DatHydra]

I didn't vote Soup. You reading this game at all?

Soup's posts were obvtown, but they were also noobtown. He constantly attacked me with weak points, and so I argued them down aggressively. The intent was not to get a lynch on Soup, but to break down his argument.

With no vote from us, and consequently no tunneling your case falls flat.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Tunneling without the vote, then.

You still tunnelled, as I pointed out earlier. So no, the case remains perfectly intact. I simply misread part of one of your sentences.

Vote: Dat Hydra

 

[DatHydra]

I did not say I was tunneling, nor have you made a case for me tunnelling. You initially assume I was tunneling, I then explained it was not tunneling, but defending myself from Soup's case. You then restate that I'm tunneling. Show that I wasn't defending myself, but tunnelling.

Your case is horribly farfetched. You're suggesting I was trying to get a majority to vote a lynch on Soup without commiting to the lynch myself, before most people had even posted to the thread or given an on opinion of soup, and by calling Soup town. I mean, really?

I'm town, I was defending myself against a fellow town's bad case.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

DatHydra, buddying is a bit of a vague term because we all kind of have our own definition on when it becomes "buddying". I don't feel like anybody has been buddying me; as for you I feel buddyish vibes coming from RoxPSI [answering questions pointed towards you before you did] and Tandora but that could be just my general impression of your social "my SWF husbando" interaction. More concerned with Rox based on that but my read on him depends a lot on your alignment so I can't really do much with it atm.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

RF: It's analogous to village idiot play, where you deliberately play in an obtuse manner so people can't read you - and you do it even as town, when you could be helping scumhunt, so that people won't think you're scum when you do it as scum. Posting in pictures instead of words is meta-play, not game-play. And it's amusing, it's not necessarily even scummy, but it is anti-town.

Still don't see it. Pointed out earlier how Red's statement on Soup's play bothered me and this is exactly the same because most of these claims are either proven wrong or not backed up adequately:

- Radical's been scum hunting actively and hints at lynch choices pretty hard. Are you even reading the thread?
- How is it anti-town? Being hard to read =/= anti town [personally I don't even think he's that hard to read].

Weak cases like this make it hard to hunt scum because I always have to reconsider people's stances as "either whack or scummy."

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Radical, I don't think your case on DatHydra is very convincing tbh. I don't see how you're any less tunneling than him atm nor do I agree that he's tunneling that hard to begin with. I think you're looking too hard into a null tell here.

DatHydra, buddying is a bit of a vague term because we all kind of have our own definition on when it becomes "buddying". I don't feel like anybody has been buddying me; as for you I feel buddyish vibes coming from RoxPSI [answering questions pointed towards you before you did] and Tandora but that could be just my general impression of your social "my SWF husbando" interaction. More concerned with Rox based on that but my read on him depends a lot on your alignment so I can't really do much with it atm.

Just curious @DatHydra, is there any specific reason as to why you ask about you and me only?

 

[Asdioh]

Glyph town.

Based off of three posts?

Just a note Gheb, I've played in about 4 or 5 games now. I won't be playing the noob card.

I will note that I disagree that a long case is inherently bad though, same with occasionally holding off on pointing out posts you take issue with. A scum member who believes they are doing well is more likely to slip up, and give us more reliable reads based off their posts with other players (well, less WIFOM at least).

Asdioh, this is your first game outside the DR if I'm not mistaken. How does the change in scenery and players make you feel? What changes are you going to make?

I was under the impression that Vult was making a joke

I'd like to apologize for not posting much recently, there was a bit of an issue on the site that I've been trying to sort out and it's been pretty time consuming. I'll be catching up well before the deadline though

I agree with the "having to clear my name" part, because that is not the Kuzitown that I'm used to at all. With only ~2 votes on him he would probably just ignore and disregard it. Then again, we're not dealing with just Kuz because this is a hydra so that can't really tell me much :|

It's true that he didn't vote Soupamario though, he votes roxPSI during RVS and then JTB.

@Asdioh When do you think you’ll be up to date with this game? I Just Iso’d you, you’ve only really commented on Gheb, Soup and I. Your read on JTB was very wishy washy, “So yeah he could be displaying a townie standpoint there... maybe.”. When you’re up to date, I’d like you to take one person you feel you have a strong read on and explain why.

Won't be too long I guess. The games I've been in previously had Days lasting maybe 5-6 days, while this one is about 10, so I can take it slower (and again, wait for inactives more)

 

[Asdioh]

These have all been hilarious, but I still have to wonder what's up with this. A posting restriction? Or trying to avoid deep discussion by convincing the rest of us you have a posting restriction?

Also, it seems to me that DatHydra is pounding on Soupamario pretty hard, even after accepting that he has solid (if newbie) reasons for making his posts. Is it an attempt to teach a new forum mafia player through hardship, or is it tunneling without voting? I could see "I'm not voting you and I think you might be town... but here are all these reasons why you're playing badly and anyone else should think you're hiding something" go either way. I'm also not convinced that Soupamario's plays are entirely newbie town plays, since he's got a background in other kinds of mafia. A no-lynch vote, maybe; but the rest of it seems suspicious to me. Definite FOS from me.

his only post with content, though it's a decent one

First off these pictures are super annoying.

Second, some people not counting me are being more inactive than they should.

Now current events. Soup is looking scummy or dumb town, like I always do, still better than Air's play.

Gheb looks more town, not sure about the hydra's because they have multiple people in board with them. :/

Radicals's pics annoy me to no end.

his only post with content


What's with the "not counting me" part? Do you still have a reason for being inactive?
-Radical's pictures annoy him (enough merit to be mentioned twice)
-Soup looks scummy or dumb town to him
-Gheb looks town and hydra johns

[collapse=Smarboy iso]

Soupamario: Voting no lynch is almost always bad for town. I'll let it go because of EM, but IGMEOY.

Gheb: Why are you playing IC? It looks like you're trying to set yourself up as town leader, for all that you're advising people not to sheep. Also, I (smarg) wholeheartedly disagree that cases are always scummy. They certainly can be scummy, but a well-phrased, well thought out case isn't. It's when you try to make it look like more than it is or use bad logic that the case is scummy.

Without cases, how do you persuade everyone else that the person you find scummy is scum? What distinguishes a case from a post pointing out a scumslip? I'd argue that's just a mini-case.

Vult: WTF? FOS: Vult

Also @ Mod: We don't like you very much right now.

IC = inexperience challenged, someone who guides newbies through the foibles of forum mafia (ie what gheb's doing).

Soupa, don't edit. Ever. People have been modkilled for less. And I never said sheeping was fine; I said Gheb was trying to establish himself as town leader despite saying that sheeping is bad.

About activity: I haven't had a chance to talk to the other head of this hydra about this game at all. That should change tomorrow. I don't have time to post right now (I'm on my way to bed), but there will be content from us tomorrow.

Brief thoughts:

Soupa: Town, not playing well though. The pictures, sadly, aren't going to change, and lynching RF on the basis of it is a policy lynch. The PR discussion has already been brought up, as has the no lynch vote. Also, telling people what to do to not make them scum in your eyes is a Bad Thing because scum reads it and guess what? You've just told them exactly what not to do. Conclusion: Probably town.

RF: Gboy likes the pictures, I think it's a stupid meta-dodge. Promise me you'll cut it out if you survive to LyLo?

RoxPSI: Soupa doesn't get to edit, neither do you *angryface*. Posts seem on the safe side, he's not taking a lot of risks, IGMEOY.

Gheb: I'll reevaluate after talking with Gboy

Vult: Better. In fact, UnFOS

I'll post about everyone else tomorrow.

RF: It's analogous to village idiot play, where you deliberately play in an obtuse manner so people can't read you - and you do it even as town, when you could be helping scumhunt, so that people won't think you're scum when you do it as scum. Posting in pictures instead of words is meta-play, not game-play. And it's amusing, it's not necessarily even scummy, but it is anti-town.

[/collapse]Looking good to me.

[collapse=vult redux iso]

I didn't like your post 119, but I wouldn't say that you are on my "To Lynch" list.

I would tentatively place Soup and Gheb as Town.

I don't think it's fair to say I've "focused" on JTB at all. I've been looking at RFiction's interaction with him as a base from which to attack RFiction.

Also the thing about JTB isn't "something silly as a misread". Look at the exchange more closely:







It just seems really wrong in a lot of ways.

One is the reason RFiction brought up: that it's unusually and unnecessarily defensive. He didn't need to elaborate on his mistake because it was a mistake that anyone would have made had they not known your history. It's a situation where as a Town-aligned player you could have assumed that the other person would empathize with the error. But JTB covers his bases preemptively, as if he's expecting Soup to attack him, which I think is a scum-tell that is especially accurate for newer players (thought process: "I have to be ready to defend myself when the Townies come after me").

Another thing is that he credits the correction of his error to the fact that Soup mentioned Epic Mafia -- I think that, to the average person, this means nothing. Gheb just happened to know that environment and be able to explain the norms of that site. The fact that he overlooked Gheb's explanation (which was necessary to understand why Epic Mafia was relevant) to say "Oh! Oops! You're from Epic Mafia! My bad!" to cover his mistake when he didn't know why Epic Mafia's norms related to his accusation being null.

ANOTHER thing is that his accusation could very well stand without the Epic Mafia revelation in the first place. It IS true that voting No Lynch inhibits gaining reactions from specific players, regardless of player history. Not many people would have given him a hard time if he'd left his vote where it was, but he was all too ready to take it off the second it looked like the base for the vote might crack.

One last issue I have is that it looks like his 70 was a reaction to Gheb's comment in #58, where Gheb criticizes him for eagerly jumping on his No Lynch suggestion without examining his Epic Mafia background... which is entirely too much for Gheb to ask of someone (I'm certainly not going to go investigate some site's norms in order to maybe get a read on one player). But JTB doesn't bring that up to Gheb and it looks like he'd rather turn around, unvote, and apologize rather than face an argumentative exchange with the game's "leader". Avoiding conflict.

---

I find it hard to imagine Town players saying this.

I'm not willing to go gung ho against him for the same reason.

Also I like his response to it, so.

I can't think of any reason why I'd have voted JTB (to show everyone that I was suspicious of that post? It's not like I really looked at anything else he's posted so far). Also see above.

I think your posts had relevance to their exchange, so I am going to talk about it.

How can it hurt to know how other people interpret your posts?

Absolutely. I try review my posts explicitly to minimize what could be interpreted as scumminess all the time. I'm not going to lose the game for the Town if I can help it.

I answered that question before.

But I haven't looked at much of the new content he's posted yet so my opinion might be outdated.

Probs would've written it off as newbie error; No Lynch was a really enticing option in my first Day start game too.

[/collapse]looking pretty good as well

inb4 "you didn't iso a couple other people"


FoS: Glyph and Red Ryu

Also haven't liked JTB much except for his most recent ~2 posts. Those are looking better.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Why no vote, Asdioh? They're being tracked by the mod and are easier to work with in case you flip town than a mere FoS. Inactive players shouldn't be our main concern at the moment because talking about them will give us nothing [yes, we all hate them yadda yadda]. If we feel the input is inadequate we can easily lynch them shortly before deadline but we have still like a week left so let's focus on the discussion of active players.

The "waiting for inactive players" can also be seen as an excuse for coasting based on other players' inactivity. Waiting for inactives makes you kind of inactive yourself.

 

[Tandora]

I agree with quality over quantity Tandora, but upon reading your posts I don't see any strong stances from you; if you take away the Gheb/Soupa conversation in the beginning of the conversation you're left with nothing. Note that I feel you've put yourself out there more than the others I feel are inactive (you are in no way inactive, just not commenting on recent events), but you're missing things on people such as rfiction, vult, jtb, and myself. I just would like more from you is all, I personally apologize if this comment peeved you (which it seems it did).

* - I am now reading your iso read in your post, i just noted that you quoted me beforehand.

-Roxy

Yeah, I was a bit irked. Simply put, it's hard to post a lot when I'm not even at my comp for hours at a time.

And quite frankly, I don't take many stances early game. I've never mastered the art of RVS and I like to hold my opinions in until I've got them fairly well defined in my head. I could list x, y, and z are town, but I try to not post town lists. So, I tend to eliminate who I have strong reads as town first and then look at who I think is scum and why. It's a slow process because it's reverse engineering and it really sucks D1. Which is why I always get someone prodding me. =/

Brief thoughts:

Soupa: Town, not playing well though. The pictures, sadly, aren't going to change, and lynching RF on the basis of it is a policy lynch. The PR discussion has already been brought up, as has the no lynch vote. Also, telling people what to do to not make them scum in your eyes is a Bad Thing because scum reads it and guess what? You've just told them exactly what not to do. Conclusion: Probably town.
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I agree with this 100%.

I agree that Soup is town. And oddly enough the self imposed memebase styel of posting makes me think RF is town too. I've seen more town players decide to have fun with a mafia game by giving a self imposed posting restriction than town. RF's posts are obviously light hearted with an attempt of content, so I'm pretty happy with it.

Much more fun than OS's captain's log style. =/

VOTE: HIDA JIREMI

The boy needs some pressure to see how he cracks.